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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #675 on: August 31, 2021, 09:58:42 pm »

Math, whatís your read on Glooble?
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #676 on: August 31, 2021, 09:59:16 pm »

Also, I have reasons to think faust is town despite finding certain posts heís made scummy.

What are those reasons?

Just say they're role related if they are.

Yeah, not answering this, sorry.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #677 on: August 31, 2021, 10:00:11 pm »

Glooble, can you give me a scum to chum?
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #678 on: August 31, 2021, 10:01:08 pm »

Also, I have reasons to think faust is town despite finding certain posts heís made scummy.

What are those reasons?

Just say they're role related if they are.

Yeah, not answering this, sorry.

Vote: Galzria
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #679 on: August 31, 2021, 10:06:24 pm »

Also, I have reasons to think faust is town despite finding certain posts heís made scummy.

What are those reasons?

Just say they're role related if they are.

Yeah, not answering this, sorry.

Vote: Galzria

Still not answering this. And you can go be all mad about it all you want. Exile me. Itís absolutely 1000000% better for me to not say.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #680 on: August 31, 2021, 10:08:57 pm »

Also, I have reasons to think faust is town despite finding certain posts heís made scummy.

What are those reasons?

Just say they're role related if they are.

Yeah, not answering this, sorry.

Vote: Galzria

Still not answering this. And you can go be all mad about it all you want. Exile me. Itís absolutely 1000000% better for me to not say.

I don't give a shit about playing this game if people don't give reasons for doing things.

From my perspective you're never being solved if you're town so you're a liability.

Also I'm sheeping e.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #681 on: August 31, 2021, 10:13:59 pm »

Vote: Swowl
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #682 on: August 31, 2021, 10:48:06 pm »

MiXy, what scummy about swowl?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #683 on: August 31, 2021, 11:34:16 pm »

Shoot, I had a long post and didn't post it. It's on my computer, so I'll send it in the morning once I've nade sure I still agree with it all.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #684 on: September 01, 2021, 08:05:35 am »

Glooble, can you give me a scum to chum?

sure:

scummiest right now - Dylan and pubby
mid-tier scummy- mathdude, Swowl, you
null- EFHW, Awaclus
slightly townie- Didds
townie- faust, iguana
IC- MiX
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I think town!Glooble pointing to something as a scum tell and then shortly thereafter doing that thing is a lot more likely than scum!Glooble doing that.

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #685 on: September 01, 2021, 08:38:32 am »

Does anyone not think iguana is town?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #686 on: September 01, 2021, 08:44:15 am »

Glooble, are you suuuuure you shouldn't out your reason to vote pubby D1?

Because it's either extremely convoluted or scum already knows.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #687 on: September 01, 2021, 08:45:28 am »

MiXy, what scummy about swowl?

Nothing. But his reactions to being voted are clearly based on hidden information.

Vote: faust
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #688 on: September 01, 2021, 08:53:55 am »

Glooble, are you suuuuure you shouldn't out your reason to vote pubby D1?

Because it's either extremely convoluted or scum already knows.

There is literally no way for me to explain it without claiming, and at this point it's so thin as to be not worth considering. It's percentage points. It's the kind of reason that's okay when what you need is "slightly better than random" but completely irrelevant now that we have days worth of discussion and actual wagons.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #689 on: September 01, 2021, 08:55:10 am »

Glooble, are you suuuuure you shouldn't out your reason to vote pubby D1?

Because it's either extremely convoluted or scum already knows.

There is literally no way for me to explain it without claiming, and at this point it's so thin as to be not worth considering. It's percentage points. It's the kind of reason that's okay when what you need is "slightly better than random" but completely irrelevant now that we have days worth of discussion and actual wagons.

Alright, I'll try not to talk about this until D3.

Glooble, can you give me a scum to chum?

sure:

scummiest right now - Dylan and pubby
mid-tier scummy- mathdude, Swowl, you
null- EFHW, Awaclus
slightly townie- Didds
townie- faust, iguana
IC- MiX

Can you talk about your strongest reads here?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #690 on: September 01, 2021, 08:58:12 am »

Where did pubby go?

I don't see the towniness in mathdude. Maybe I don't read him well. His posts don't say much, so that makes me suspicious. Dylan is a good lurker exile. He hasn't done much scumhunting. I'd want to say the same of faust but I think he is vla? iguana is obv!tiwn. Galzria doesn't look great - weird case on Didds, odd claim. This is the first I remember Galz saying he doesn't shoot as vig. Does anyone remember that from other games? But I don't get scum vibes.

Didds said she was going to claim today. So I've been reserving judgment until I hear that. Is that still a plan?

Who have I forgotten? Swowl feels like Swowl. I always want to townread him. Glooble's been laying low somewhat today. pubby's case has probably derailed momentum on him and Didds if anything.

Staying on pubby. I can see a (murky) scum narrative there. Would vote Dylan to get an exile. I'm going to review my notes on Glooble, see if I still think the issues are issues.

PPE: Glooble, Awaclus is dead! Townpoints, there, I guess.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #691 on: September 01, 2021, 08:59:36 am »

quick read on awa can't find crumbs - other please check.
Have thoughts, but am about to head out for the night, so it will have to wait until tomorrow.

It should be obvious what his target was.

I strongly disagree if you think he blocked me last night. That would've been a serious misplay by him.

You don't think he would have targeted MiX?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #692 on: September 01, 2021, 09:00:50 am »

Where did pubby go?

I don't see the towniness in mathdude. Maybe I don't read him well. His posts don't say much, so that makes me suspicious. Dylan is a good lurker exile. He hasn't done much scumhunting. I'd want to say the same of faust but I think he is vla? iguana is obv!tiwn. Galzria doesn't look great - weird case on Didds, odd claim. This is the first I remember Galz saying he doesn't shoot as vig. Does anyone remember that from other games? But I don't get scum vibes.

Didds said she was going to claim today. So I've been reserving judgment until I hear that. Is that still a plan?

Who have I forgotten? Swowl feels like Swowl. I always want to townread him. Glooble's been laying low somewhat today. pubby's case has probably derailed momentum on him and Didds if anything.

Staying on pubby. I can see a (murky) scum narrative there. Would vote Dylan to get an exile. I'm going to review my notes on Glooble, see if I still think the issues are issues.

PPE: Glooble, Awaclus is dead! Townpoints, there, I guess.

Vote: EFHW

Ew, faust is unkillable today because of VLA. That kinda sucks, I wanted that to be a wagon.

Math's probably not town, but he sure is townier than Dylan. But I haven't actually paid much attention to either of them.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #693 on: September 01, 2021, 09:26:44 am »


Can you talk about your strongest reads here?

I should reread because a lot of this is gut feelings.

So admittedly I don't know Dylan that well, we haven't played together a lot, but he's felt off to me all game in the few posts he's made, and with his scummy place on the wagon it just feels like a good exile to me. A lot of his posts have either been defending himself of trying to make something out of nothing. If I have time I'll ISO today.

pubby just came into day 2 very weird. His "I found the scum team" post doesn't feel towny to me. He lurked most of day 1 and wasn't on the wagon just by sheer not being around.

As I said before, I often scumread faust when he is in fact town, but the fact is scum!faust has a tendency to take charge and try and control the narrative more than town!faust does. But given that 1. faust is sort of VLA and 2. we have an IC, maybe that's NAI (since an IC will naturally sort of take over that leadership role by virtue of being someone everyone trusts. Even with all that though, I feel like scum!faust would be more of a presence, pushing town the way he wants us to go. That's the experience I've had playing against faust when he was scum, and that's why I feel like he's town now.

And yes, I forgot Awaclus was the nightkill. In my defense, he tends to post sporadically when he's alive.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #694 on: September 01, 2021, 09:46:56 am »

EFHW, Itís better for town if I claim later on, but if itís a question of exiling me, then I will.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #695 on: September 01, 2021, 10:51:20 am »

Vote: Iguana
Vote: Mathdude

Vote: Faust

why was I worth a vote?
You are pushing for that OMGUS really hard, aren't you?

pushing for that reason really hard.

However I just realized you are VLA for a few days so....
UnVote in hopes that I can get a reason from you when you return.
Don't get your hopes up.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #696 on: September 01, 2021, 10:55:09 am »

Galzria doesn't look great - weird case on Didds, odd claim. This is the first I remember Galz saying he doesn't shoot as vig. Does anyone remember that from other games? But I don't get scum vibes.
What is your actual read on Galzria? This all seems contradictory.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #697 on: September 01, 2021, 11:28:35 am »

I remember fricken Galz saying he doesn't fricken shoot as big in fricken 2017.

And I am too scummy. I can be a scum. Everyone town reading me every game is boring.
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #698 on: September 01, 2021, 11:46:51 am »

Does anyone not think iguana is town?
I'm not sure but his most recent post sure is towny (sorry iguana)
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #699 on: September 01, 2021, 12:00:36 pm »

Does anyone not think iguana is town?
I'm not sure but his most recent post sure is towny (sorry iguana)

That's my scum plan  8)
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.
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