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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #500 on: August 26, 2021, 04:59:12 pm »

I find it ironic that we've run up two wagons and gotten two claims of roles that either wouldn't hurt town too much to lose or would be convenient fake claims for scum, and it still seems like we are moving away from exiling either of them. Like I get it if we unfortunately hit a doc or a cop or something, but if we weren't going to exile either of e or galz after claiming these roles, were we ever going to exile anyone?

Exactly!

Also, I stil want to see an exile happen. I'd rather it is e as it seems like a very low risk, potential fake claim. But I'd jump to Galz, Didds, or even Swowl to get one.

Would you go to Glooble?

How many more people do you want to claim today?

Ironically after asking that question, I would actually be willing to go back to Glooble.

You put Swowl & Didds on your list. Neither has claimed. I simply wondered if Glooble was also on that list. I don’t want them all to claim. I was just curious why a leading wagon earlier didn’t get your attention now.

Sorry, thought it was Math answering my question to Math. Missed that you’re not math.

I am not, but I was the other person quoted by Math, so the question to Math related to my (not!Math's) converstion with Math.

Didn’t mean that to come off harshly. I just legitimately didn’t realize that you weren’t the person I asked the question of when you answered. Your answer is just as valuable overall - just not the person I was looking for to answer.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #501 on: August 26, 2021, 04:59:41 pm »

Singular though - E! could be some form of bullet proof. if Galz is telling the truth, that would even make a skum BP almost likely.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #502 on: August 26, 2021, 05:00:31 pm »

Math, you vote Galz instead of e if you want an exile because e's at L-4 and Galz is at L-2. Also, you're on e already.

I want to see scum exiled. And I think e has a higher chance of being scum.

As a secondary, an actual exile and flip is better for readers than a NE, imo.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #503 on: August 26, 2021, 05:00:46 pm »

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #504 on: August 26, 2021, 05:01:20 pm »

L-1 scummy claim nexile bad
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #505 on: August 26, 2021, 05:01:56 pm »

vote: Glooble
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #506 on: August 26, 2021, 05:03:11 pm »

I don't get how the claim is skummy. In the spot he was in I think skum claims something hoping to get a CC. Vig never CCs... they just shoot him if he isn't lynched.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #507 on: August 26, 2021, 05:03:16 pm »

The pro-town benefit of a hider is that the person can survive getting shot. Once it is known, it's literally only potentially bad for town to use it because of the risk of the double death since scum can just avoid wasting the shot on him. There is no reason not to go through with that exile unless you are completely convinced e is town beyond anyone else.

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #508 on: August 26, 2021, 05:03:22 pm »

*exiled. sorry
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #509 on: August 26, 2021, 05:04:42 pm »

I don't get how the claim is skummy. In the spot he was in I think skum claims something hoping to get a CC. Vig never CCs... they just shoot him if he isn't lynched.

I mean, if there isn't another vig in the game, it gives scum cover for actually killing. You yourself did this last game...
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #510 on: August 26, 2021, 05:05:22 pm »

I find it ironic that we've run up two wagons and gotten two claims of roles that either wouldn't hurt town too much to lose or would be convenient fake claims for scum, and it still seems like we are moving away from exiling either of them. Like I get it if we unfortunately hit a doc or a cop or something, but if we weren't going to exile either of e or galz after claiming these roles, were we ever going to exile anyone?

Exactly!

Also, I stil want to see an exile happen. I'd rather it is e as it seems like a very low risk, potential fake claim. But I'd jump to Galz, Didds, or even Swowl to get one.

Vote Galz then, he should be at L-2

Of the two, I think I would rather lose a hider than a town vig who is known for exercising restraint with the role, so why not e?

Same.
 
I find it ironic that we've run up two wagons and gotten two claims of roles that either wouldn't hurt town too much to lose or would be convenient fake claims for scum, and it still seems like we are moving away from exiling either of them. Like I get it if we unfortunately hit a doc or a cop or something, but if we weren't going to exile either of e or galz after claiming these roles, were we ever going to exile anyone?

Exactly!

Also, I stil want to see an exile happen. I'd rather it is e as it seems like a very low risk, potential fake claim. But I'd jump to Galz, Didds, or even Swowl to get one.

Would you go to Glooble?

I don't see it swinging there at this point. But if it starts, I would do a quick reread and consider it

So to put it to the person I intended:

Math - I’m not asking for anybody additional to claim. But why do you list Swowl (who never had a wagon), WCD, e & me as options, but leave off Glooble completely (who did have a substantial wagon)?

Fair enough. He didn't ring bells for me like others did. So is want to skim again. But yes.

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #511 on: August 26, 2021, 05:07:43 pm »

I don't get how the claim is skummy. In the spot he was in I think skum claims something hoping to get a CC. Vig never CCs... they just shoot him if he isn't lynched.

I mean, if there isn't another vig in the game, it gives scum cover for actually killing. You yourself did this last game...

Completely different. I was playing off mix info post of a vig existing combined with the fact that yellow was gone. Figured yellow had the shot. Way safer claim.

Galz is day 1. High value claim. Except he picks the only one that would not CC him in this spot.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #512 on: August 26, 2021, 05:09:15 pm »

I don't get how the claim is skummy. In the spot he was in I think skum claims something hoping to get a CC. Vig never CCs... they just shoot him if he isn't lynched.

I mean, if there isn't another vig in the game, it gives scum cover for actually killing. You yourself did this last game...

Completely different. I was playing off mix info post of a vig existing combined with the fact that yellow was gone. Figured yellow had the shot. Way safer claim.

Galz is day 1. High value claim. Except he picks the only one that would not CC him in this spot.

poorly worded. to elaborate I am saying that I think skum!anyone in that spot tries to draw a CC out of some high value PR like doctor
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #513 on: August 26, 2021, 05:09:48 pm »

Vote: No exile
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #514 on: August 26, 2021, 05:10:20 pm »

Vote Count 1.?.MiX

Galzria (6): faust, WestCoastDidds, EFHW, Awaclus, Glooble, iguanaiguana
2.71828.... (3): Swowl, mathdude, Dylan32
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Glooble (1): Galzria

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #515 on: August 26, 2021, 05:30:42 pm »

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #516 on: August 26, 2021, 05:33:29 pm »

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #517 on: August 26, 2021, 05:34:08 pm »

Mix, you’d rather see no exile than Galz? You sure?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #518 on: August 26, 2021, 05:34:45 pm »

Mix, you’d rather see no exile than Galz? You sure?

No.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #519 on: August 26, 2021, 05:34:58 pm »

Mix, you’d rather see no exile than Galz? You sure?

No.

Er, that was to the second question.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #520 on: August 26, 2021, 05:40:27 pm »

I don't get how the claim is skummy. In the spot he was in I think skum claims something hoping to get a CC. Vig never CCs... they just shoot him if he isn't lynched.

I mean, if there isn't another vig in the game, it gives scum cover for actually killing. You yourself did this last game...

Completely different. I was playing off mix info post of a vig existing combined with the fact that yellow was gone. Figured yellow had the shot. Way safer claim.

Galz is day 1. High value claim. Except he picks the only one that would not CC him in this spot.

poorly worded. to elaborate I am saying that I think skum!anyone in that spot tries to draw a CC out of some high value PR like doctor

I get your point, it probably was way safer for you in that game, but it's not a 100% anyone as scum would go for CC. Highly likely, ok, probably; but certain players could go for the more high risk high reward play of getting the towncred after living while literally being clear to do the kills for their team.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #521 on: August 26, 2021, 05:41:16 pm »

Not necessarily intent right now, but I'm willing to hammer galz if I am not going to convince anyone to come back onto the e wagon.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #522 on: August 26, 2021, 05:44:56 pm »

Not necessarily intent right now, but I'm willing to hammer galz if I am not going to convince anyone to come back onto the e wagon.

I think Glooble is more informative than e at this point based off both recent and prior interactions.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #523 on: August 26, 2021, 05:46:46 pm »

Mix, you’d rather see no exile than Galz? You sure?

No.

Er, that was to the second question.

Gotcha! I’m following you. I’m okay with exiling Galz, but I don’t hate no exile. But if you think it’s better exile him, I’ll move my vote back there.
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« Reply #524 on: August 26, 2021, 06:06:10 pm »

Didds Count

Galzria (5): faust, EFHW, Awaclus, Glooble, iguanaiguana
2.71828.... (3): Swowl, mathdude, Dylan32
iguanaiguana (1): pubby
Glooble (1): Galzria

No exile (2): 2.71828...., MiX, WCD

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