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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #450 on: August 26, 2021, 04:03:47 pm »

I'm not around for deadline, btw.

When are you leaving?

Well, I pretty much should have left already.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #451 on: August 26, 2021, 04:05:04 pm »

Vote Count 1.MiX

Galzria (5): faust, 2.71828...., WestCoastDidds, EFHW, Awaclus
2.71828.... (4): Swowl, Glooble, mathdude, Dylan32
WestCoastDidds (2): MiX, Galzria

Swowl (1): iguanaiguana
iguanaiguana (1): pubby
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7 to exile. 3 hours to deadline.

What's the plan?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #452 on: August 26, 2021, 04:05:37 pm »

I'm off as well. Please do the right thing and exile Galz for me.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #453 on: August 26, 2021, 04:06:42 pm »

Galzria, can you claim?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #454 on: August 26, 2021, 04:07:51 pm »

Galzria, can you claim?

I am the Tin Man.

Do you want me to claim my PR?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #455 on: August 26, 2021, 04:08:11 pm »

Galzria, can you claim?

I am the Tin Man.

Do you want me to claim my PR?

Most likely, yes.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #456 on: August 26, 2021, 04:11:53 pm »

Galzria, can you claim?

I am the Tin Man.

Do you want me to claim my PR?

Most likely, yes.

I am Dorothy’s protector by flavor provided.

I am a 2-shot Vig.

I don’t shoot as Vig, so I’m essentially a VT, which is why my Exile is better than No Exile as it generates information at the very least while losing a PR that won’t be used.

That said, if I *did* shoot i could’ve helped resolv the e situation (if I understand correctly) if he didn’t get exiled which is why I advocated going back to WCD here.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #457 on: August 26, 2021, 04:14:03 pm »

Galzria, can you claim?

I am the Tin Man.

Do you want me to claim my PR?

Most likely, yes.

I am Dorothy’s protector by flavor provided.

I am a 2-shot Vig.

I don’t shoot as Vig, so I’m essentially a VT, which is why my Exile is better than No Exile as it generates information at the very least while losing a PR that won’t be used.

That said, if I *did* shoot i could’ve helped resolv the e situation (if I understand correctly) if he didn’t get exiled which is why I advocated going back to WCD here.

What do you mean "I don't shoot as Vig"?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #458 on: August 26, 2021, 04:14:21 pm »

Let's all vote Swowl

I do not believe I have ever been looked at so much without literally a single reason ever being stated as to why I am skummy.
No defense on this one. Pure offense.
You are skummy for it, faust is skummy for it, and whoever the other person was (Dylan i think) is skummy for it.

Wasn't me. I might have included you in willing to exile territory, but that was more out of haven't thought you were particularly towny than actually scummy. Your post before the one I just quoted though mirrored some of my thoughts and actually makes me lean slightly town and remove you from my personal exile pool.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #459 on: August 26, 2021, 04:14:48 pm »

yeah, totally down for Galz shooting me tonight.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #460 on: August 26, 2021, 04:15:02 pm »

Galzria, can you claim?

I am the Tin Man.

Do you want me to claim my PR?

Most likely, yes.

I am Dorothy’s protector by flavor provided.

I am a 2-shot Vig.

I don’t shoot as Vig, so I’m essentially a VT, which is why my Exile is better than No Exile as it generates information at the very least while losing a PR that won’t be used.

That said, if I *did* shoot i could’ve helped resolv the e situation (if I understand correctly) if he didn’t get exiled which is why I advocated going back to WCD here.

What do you mean "I don't shoot as Vig"?

I have a massively extensive history of arguing why Vig’s should almost never shoot unless town has their back against a literal wall.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #461 on: August 26, 2021, 04:15:13 pm »

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #462 on: August 26, 2021, 04:16:28 pm »

Well that history makes that claim stupidly convenient.

All in favor of just exiling Galzria?

Galzria, if you live today, you have to shoot. And you should probably not shoot e. If you're already saying you're not going to do that, then we should just exile you as you won't be able to confirm your role.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #463 on: August 26, 2021, 04:17:13 pm »

especially as a two shot vig, using one shot on me tonight is totally worth it.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #464 on: August 26, 2021, 04:17:41 pm »

Well that history makes that claim stupidly convenient.

All in favor of just exiling Galzria?

Galzria, if you live today, you have to shoot. And you should probably not shoot e. If you're already saying you're not going to do that, then we should just exile you as you won't be able to confirm your role.

It’s only convenient now that I had to claim it publicly 🙄
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #465 on: August 26, 2021, 04:18:15 pm »

I don't understand MiX's reasoning here
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #466 on: August 26, 2021, 04:18:54 pm »

I don't understand MiX's reasoning here

If Galzria's scum, he doesn't have a 2-shot vig lol. So he should use the vig so we can confirm he has it.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #467 on: August 26, 2021, 04:19:22 pm »

Well that history makes that claim stupidly convenient.

All in favor of just exiling Galzria?

Galzria, if you live today, you have to shoot. And you should probably not shoot e. If you're already saying you're not going to do that, then we should just exile you as you won't be able to confirm your role.

It’s only convenient now that I had to claim it publicly 🙄

And yes, I will shoot now that it’s public - but there are many factors that can prevent my shot given my role is public knowledge to scum.

Honestly, best option is probably to Exile me.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #468 on: August 26, 2021, 04:20:00 pm »

Well that history makes that claim stupidly convenient.

All in favor of just exiling Galzria?

Galzria, if you live today, you have to shoot. And you should probably not shoot e. If you're already saying you're not going to do that, then we should just exile you as you won't be able to confirm your role.

It’s only convenient now that I had to claim it publicly 🙄

And yes, I will shoot now that it’s public - but there are many factors that can prevent my shot given my role is public knowledge to scum.

Honestly, best option is probably to Exile me.

Scum roleblocking you means they're not roleblocking someone else.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #469 on: August 26, 2021, 04:20:47 pm »

Well that history makes that claim stupidly convenient.

All in favor of just exiling Galzria?

Galzria, if you live today, you have to shoot. And you should probably not shoot e. If you're already saying you're not going to do that, then we should just exile you as you won't be able to confirm your role.

It’s only convenient now that I had to claim it publicly 🙄

And yes, I will shoot now that it’s public - but there are many factors that can prevent my shot given my role is public knowledge to scum.

Honestly, best option is probably to Exile me.

Scum roleblocking you means they're not roleblocking someone else.

Fair - but it does nothing to confirm my role to you and their other options are a complete guess in the dark.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #470 on: August 26, 2021, 04:22:20 pm »

Well that history makes that claim stupidly convenient.

All in favor of just exiling Galzria?

Galzria, if you live today, you have to shoot. And you should probably not shoot e. If you're already saying you're not going to do that, then we should just exile you as you won't be able to confirm your role.

It’s only convenient now that I had to claim it publicly 🙄

And yes, I will shoot now that it’s public - but there are many factors that can prevent my shot given my role is public knowledge to scum.

Honestly, best option is probably to Exile me.

Scum roleblocking you means they're not roleblocking someone else.

Fair - but it does nothing to confirm my role to you and their other options are a complete guess in the dark.

Also if I were scum I would do nothing and say I was blocked or Jailed or something - which I guess could get caught by a Watcher on me - but now we’re getting into powers on powers on powers.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #471 on: August 26, 2021, 04:22:59 pm »

I don't understand MiX's reasoning here

If Galzria's scum, he doesn't have a 2-shot vig lol. So he should use the vig so we can confirm he has it.

I don't see how the second half follows the first statement.

If I am scum then I am not a hider, so I should hide to confirm I am a hider.  Except my role isn't really verifiable....except if a town vig shoots me.

If Galzria is scum, is directed to shoot me, "shoots me" and then claims that, he makes me out to be conf!town (of sorts), which is not what scum want to do.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #472 on: August 26, 2021, 04:23:17 pm »

vote: Galz

I'd like to get through this day without ending up with a mass claim after all.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #473 on: August 26, 2021, 04:24:50 pm »

vote: no exile

I think we have had a very productive D1, which starting D2 with investigations and galzria shooting me and me hiding could very easily end with multiple N1 deaths.

We have had good wagons, good discussions, and just the right amount of claiming.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #474 on: August 26, 2021, 04:27:07 pm »

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