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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1200 on: September 09, 2021, 12:17:06 pm »

I can say with 100% certainty that I got roleblocked last night. I targeted glooble and he died.

If a scum RB exists, this gives credibility to EFHW's role. If faust says I targeted no one, this gives credibility to faust.

Scum team is WCD/Dylan/Mathdude.

Vote: Dylan
If that is the scum team, then we lost. The only way town wins if if Swowl is mafia.

Vote: Swowl
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1201 on: September 09, 2021, 12:20:33 pm »

Doesn't it hinge on Swowl? If he votes with town, then we can win.

If he votes with scum, game over?

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1202 on: September 09, 2021, 12:22:21 pm »

You get that you lose when I flip survivor right?
Assuming team of 3.

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Town:  14 wins, 14 losses (1 MVP)
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1203 on: September 09, 2021, 12:22:41 pm »

Doesn't it hinge on Swowl? If he votes with town, then we can win.

If he votes with scum, game over?
Well, yes, assuming Swowl is a Survivor. If so, he will always vote with scum, because they have the power to make him lose.

But there is no guarantee that Swowl is a Survivor. I saw him targeting MiX, so odds are he's just mafia.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1204 on: September 09, 2021, 12:24:20 pm »

You get that you lose when I flip survivor right?
Assuming team of 3.
If you are a Survivor, would you truly consider siding with town here?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1205 on: September 09, 2021, 12:26:46 pm »

Doesn't it hinge on Swowl? If he votes with town, then we can win.

If he votes with scum, game over?
Well, yes, assuming Swowl is a Survivor. If so, he will always vote with scum, because they have the power to make him lose.

But there is no guarantee that Swowl is a Survivor. I saw him targeting MiX, so odds are he's just mafia.

Hmmmm... I am not sure that scum would kill him over me tonight.  But is he votes with scum for town, then its just over, right.? So, Swowl, what are you gonna do?

And faust, WTF do we do about pubby? Just vote for Dylan instead of EFHW?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1206 on: September 09, 2021, 12:29:07 pm »

You get that you lose when I flip survivor right?
Assuming team of 3.

I see this is being all up to you. I think deathproof scum is too powerful. But now you are literally the Great and Powerful Oz, which is beyond poetic. 

What do you want to do??
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1207 on: September 09, 2021, 12:42:44 pm »

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1208 on: September 09, 2021, 12:43:46 pm »

And faust, WTF do we do about pubby? Just vote for Dylan instead of EFHW?
What do you mean, what do we do about pubby? Why is there a "we" anyways?
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1209 on: September 09, 2021, 12:50:39 pm »

"Well, things look grim," says the Scarecrow, but we might still have a chance to save Oz.

"Sorry to interrupt, but I just found this dead horse under the house too," says the Coroner.

"Oh well in that case... OUR TAKEOVER IS COMPLETE," says the Scarecrow, pulling off his mask to reveal the vest, hat, wings, and tail of a flying monkey!

"Oh good we can dispense with these ridiculous outfits," says Glinda, pulling off her pink gown to reveal block robes and rubbing the pale paint off her face to reveal the green underneath.

"I was tired of being so short," says the coroner, or rather, the Wicked Witch of the East rising to her full height.

"With that horse gone, for some reason, we now control the town!" the Witch cackles. "Oz is ours!"


pubby was actually killed during the night but your mod screwed up. He was The Horse of a Different Color, a universal backup aligned with the good people of Oz.

WestCoastDidds and mathdude have been endgamed. They were Toto and the Mayor of the Munchkin City, respectively, both aligned with the good people of Oz.

faust, EFHW, and Dylan have won the game! They were the King of the Flying Monkeys, the Wicked Witch of the West, and the Wicked Witch of the East, aligned with the bad witches of Oz.

Swowl has also won. He was Oz, the Great and Powerful, a survivor.

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1210 on: September 09, 2021, 12:53:22 pm »

My apologies, in my rush to get the day opened I missed pubby's night action, which of course properly ended the game. Even without that, town's only chance was magnimonious kingmaking from Swan, so he maybe did you a favor.

Here's the setup and night actions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UVWvQ1U2K9SSXQYhVU4Ue7zrvkpioy8fc34nwoIYpNc/edit
Here's the speccy: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/TTfhbaZZ4HHi

People made some good points about setup balance on this one, and some points I disagreed with. I agree deathproof survivor is bastardy and all I can say is I didn't think it through properly and LaLight didn't catch it in the review.

Chalk it all up to me being a tad rusty with running serious games. But I hope people had fun anyway.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1211 on: September 09, 2021, 12:54:18 pm »

Please don't put a deathproof survivor in any game.

GG scum.

Town, stop saying a particular IC is good, it's never good to say that.

iguana, I'm sorry.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1212 on: September 09, 2021, 01:04:56 pm »

@Galz, I found out that James Acaster has been hosting a comedy panel show "Hypothetical." Also there is absolutely no legit way to watch that in America.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1213 on: September 09, 2021, 01:07:20 pm »

I love that pubby was a UB, Dylan claimed UB, and pubby didn't want to tell us that.

Also, Faust going for the Swowl exile there in the fake D4 that never happened - that was heartless.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1214 on: September 09, 2021, 01:08:40 pm »

Or whatever.... Now I'm being a jerk again.

Good job scum, sorry we should have exiled EFHW etc etc etc
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1215 on: September 09, 2021, 01:15:06 pm »

I was mostly just biding my time until Dylan came along to claim scum and tell Swowl where to vote. I was close to claiming myself, but it would have been annoying if Swowl had some kind of trick up his sleeve.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1216 on: September 09, 2021, 01:15:26 pm »

GG scum, and especially faust.

Iguana, it was so good to see you again!  Swowl, I'm sorry.  Galz, quit picking on me!  Mixy, stay gold, Ponyboy.  mathdude, I believed in you. pubby, dude, seriously?

I'm super frustrated. I think maybe I need to take a break rather than just costing us the win over and over again. Sorry, ya'll.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1217 on: September 09, 2021, 01:17:51 pm »

@Galz, I found out that James Acaster has been hosting a comedy panel show "Hypothetical." Also there is absolutely no legit way to watch that in America.

There’s so many British comedy panel shows that are difficult to get here.

I can get Would I Lie to You, 8 out of 10 Cats, 8 Out of 10 Cats does Countdown, Mock the Week & Taskmaster (although none are easy to get). I can’t get Nevermind the Buzzcocks, probably Hypothetical, Insert Name Here, and a few others.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1218 on: September 09, 2021, 01:18:48 pm »

GG scum, and especially faust.

Iguana, it was so good to see you again!  Swowl, I'm sorry.  Galz, quit picking on me!  Mixy, stay gold, Ponyboy.  mathdude, I believed in you. pubby, dude, seriously?

I'm super frustrated. I think maybe I need to take a break rather than just costing us the win over and over again. Sorry, ya'll.

Diddsy no!! I don't think you cost town the win here. Take a break if you need to but you know we all love you.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1219 on: September 09, 2021, 01:20:00 pm »

I was mostly just biding my time until Dylan came along to claim scum and tell Swowl where to vote. I was close to claiming myself, but it would have been annoying if Swowl had some kind of trick up his sleeve.

Were you actually VLA for most of D2? I feel like that saved you so much, I couldn't in good faith push your exile when you weren't here.

GG scum, and especially faust.

Iguana, it was so good to see you again!  Swowl, I'm sorry.  Galz, quit picking on me!  Mixy, stay gold, Ponyboy.  mathdude, I believed in you. pubby, dude, seriously?

I'm super frustrated. I think maybe I need to take a break rather than just costing us the win over and over again. Sorry, ya'll.

Diddsy no!! I don't think you cost town the win here. Take a break if you need to but you know we all love you.

This. If anyone crashed the game, it was me. I destroyed D1 and failed to be proactive D2. D3 was already set up to fail.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1220 on: September 09, 2021, 01:22:30 pm »

I was mostly just biding my time until Dylan came along to claim scum and tell Swowl where to vote. I was close to claiming myself, but it would have been annoying if Swowl had some kind of trick up his sleeve.

Were you actually VLA for most of D2? I feel like that saved you so much, I couldn't in good faith push your exile when you weren't here.
Yes I was VLA, that is not something I would lie about.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1221 on: September 09, 2021, 01:24:03 pm »

Town cannibalized town. It's a fact that you can see in the vote counts. And it was unfortunate, but I personally don't think anyone played terribly despite that. WCD did a great job making herself towny. So did Pubby in his own way. It just wasn't enough and we landed on the wrong targets.

Obviously, we should have exiled EFHW D2 and certainly D3.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1222 on: September 09, 2021, 01:25:20 pm »

Also, if I wasn't caught up in the claims... I should have known that faust was scum based on the way that he was suspecting me. town!faust is typically the one to go in and explain my meta to others and tell everyone that I am the easiest player to read in the world.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1223 on: September 09, 2021, 01:27:49 pm »

Also, if I wasn't caught up in the claims... I should have known that faust was scum based on the way that he was suspecting me. town!faust is typically the one to go in and explain my meta to others and tell everyone that I am the easiest player to read in the world.
There were just too many players in this game that I am good at reading, it would not have worked to read them all accurately.
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Re: RMM60: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« Reply #1224 on: September 09, 2021, 01:34:19 pm »


This. If anyone crashed the game, it was me. I destroyed D1 and failed to be proactive D2. D3 was already set up to fail.

Not true. The Galz exile was unfortunate, but we were set up to win. I *KNOW* that survivor Swowl always wants to win with town. It's where his heart is. I should have stuck to my guns on EFHW. Iguana would have agreed at some point.

Then I would have had an accurate result on faust, and then it wouldn't have mattered as much that pubby was on GID island of his own .
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