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[EFHW]

MiX,  how much was your personal goal affecting your play?

[EFHW]

If ADK hadn't self voted, we might still have exiled Jack or Dylan. Guess that's why ash is saying exile all 3rd parties.

ADK can't self-hammer if you don't vote for them. That's why I didn't want to vote for them lol.

Besides, scum can hammer too.

What needed to happen was a quickhammer on scum by town. Unfortunately, that feat is basically impossible, and was never going to happen with how fragmented town was.

You were certain ADK was playing for town, but they weren't.

[MiX]

MiX,  how much was your personal goal affecting your play?

Too much, but I also grouped in the fact that I got passive information that was probably going to scale in usefulness, so I was valuing my life very highly. I also had the information that ADK claimed third-party, which I felt was important for town to have.

If ADK hadn't self voted, we might still have exiled Jack or Dylan. Guess that's why ash is saying exile all 3rd parties.

ADK can't self-hammer if you don't vote for them. That's why I didn't want to vote for them lol.

Besides, scum can hammer too.

What needed to happen was a quickhammer on scum by town. Unfortunately, that feat is basically impossible, and was never going to happen with how fragmented town was.

You were certain ADK was playing for town, but they weren't.

They could've just voted for me last day if they wanted to play for scum. Maybe their true win condition didn't allow for that, but what they claimed to me did. The fact they still voted Dylan showed their loyalty.

[MiX]

Well, I want to see what happens when someone dies, so I'll be killing Callandra Henderson (Robz's character) if no one objects to it in 2 IRL days.

[mathdude]

Okay, does anyone want to shed light on what happened to me D1, that I didn't even make it to the vote?  I'm guessing some sort of random outcome, based on a day-target ability, and I got really unlucky?

Anyone?

[A Drowned Kernel]

MiX,  how much was your personal goal affecting your play?

Too much, but I also grouped in the fact that I got passive information that was probably going to scale in usefulness, so I was valuing my life very highly. I also had the information that ADK claimed third-party, which I felt was important for town to have.

If ADK hadn't self voted, we might still have exiled Jack or Dylan. Guess that's why ash is saying exile all 3rd parties.

ADK can't self-hammer if you don't vote for them. That's why I didn't want to vote for them lol.

Besides, scum can hammer too.

What needed to happen was a quickhammer on scum by town. Unfortunately, that feat is basically impossible, and was never going to happen with how fragmented town was.

You were certain ADK was playing for town, but they weren't.

They could've just voted for me last day if they wanted to play for scum. Maybe their true win condition didn't allow for that, but what they claimed to me did. The fact they still voted Dylan showed their loyalty.

Well I probably would have hammered you if you gotten to X-1

I was genuinely playing for town pretty much until Robz flipped town, at that point I was assuming that I was going to have to try and win with scum

[MiX]

Yes, and I would've hammered you if we were both at X-1 too. That doesn't mean you didn't go "hey btw mix is double hated so just vote for him and win". It seemed that, between a win and a win, you were favouring town. And that's exactly what town needed from you.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Yes, and I would've hammered you if we were both at X-1 too. That doesn't mean you didn't go "hey btw mix is double hated so just vote for him and win". It seemed that, between a win and a win, you were favouring town. And that's exactly what town needed from you.

Well I didn't know for sure you were double-hated since I don't think you ever told me explicitly that your abilities counted as actions

[Dylan32]

Okay, does anyone want to shed light on what happened to me D1, that I didn't even make it to the vote?  I'm guessing some sort of random outcome, based on a day-target ability, and I got really unlucky?

Anyone?

I'm not sure if this mechanic will be in future seasons or not so I don't want to say much about what happened, but you being president had a lot to do with it.

[mathdude]

Okay, does anyone want to shed light on what happened to me D1, that I didn't even make it to the vote?  I'm guessing some sort of random outcome, based on a day-target ability, and I got really unlucky?

Anyone?

I'm not sure if this mechanic will be in future seasons or not so I don't want to say much about what happened, but you being president had a lot to do with it.

So an assassination.... or at least an attempted one that ended up being successful.

[Dylan32]

I mean, congrats mafia, I guess.

Although, and no offense meant, but town lost this game way more than mafia won it.  And I'm accepting any blame that is to go around, as I assume I took the loss as town here since I wasn't listed in the winning players list.

@Mafia team: why didn't you recruit me?  I thought I was pretty clearly signaling to you.

Wait, what were you that you could be recruited if not a straight up traitor?  We were not actually aware of the potential for anyone to be recruited by way of NK. The only person that we knew had the chance to join us was Awaclus.  But with you, I did actually note in the scum QT the last night (assuming I was going to be the next exile) to watch out for you going forwards, because you might very well be 3rd party because you didn't read like normal town to me, so if the game had gone longer maybe you would have been.

[EFHW]

@scola -- I don't know how you could have recruited me; I assumed the team knew.

@ADK -- you can switch characters and then not worry about the legacy stuff.

So what was all the "you have to exile me now" stuff about?

[Dylan32]

@scola -- I don't know how you could have recruited me; I assumed the team knew.

@ADK -- you can switch characters and then not worry about the legacy stuff.

So what was all the "you have to exile me now" stuff about?

Well, with hindsight, he was town-aligned, but knew that if he was recruited he would join us, and begging to be exiled as town was a very clear way of signaling that we should recruit him. Obviously, we kind of overlooked that very obvious possibility lol.

[faust]

It is time for the official vote! All players may vote for a modification by posting Vote: [Option]. Those who won the game may also post Runner-up. [Option]. The deadline for votes is May 04, 2021, 04:00:00 am.

When we reach the deadline, or when everyone placed a vote (whichever happens first), the modification that received the most votes will be done. Then, the modification that received the most votes from winners will be done. If any winner voted for the modification already done by everyone, then their runner-up vote will be considered instead.

The deadline for the Presidential Execution is the same, as is the deadline for switching characters. I would like for everyone to post in their personal QT to confirm they are willing to continue to the second season, or let me know if that is not the case.

Modification Vote Count 0

Not Voting (14): Jack Rudd, SpaceAnemone, WestCoastDidds, MiX, EFHW, scolapasta, LaLight, Dylan32, A Drowned Kernel, Swowl, Robz888, ashersky, Awaclus, mathdude

[ashersky]

@scola -- I don't know how you could have recruited me; I assumed the team knew.

@ADK -- you can switch characters and then not worry about the legacy stuff.

So what was all the "you have to exile me now" stuff about?

Well, with hindsight, he was town-aligned, but knew that if he was recruited he would join us, and begging to be exiled as town was a very clear way of signaling that we should recruit him. Obviously, we kind of overlooked that very obvious possibility lol.

I was town, I figured I was going to be mafia, thought it was in town's best interest to exile me.  Basically the same as how we should have exiled ADK as 3rd party.

Mafia never recruited me, so it didn't matter in the end.

I was not a traitor, as I was not cylon-aligned from the beginning.  Considering my character and the Cylon test result (later explained to be falsified by mafia!MiX), plus Awaclus's confirmation of alignment-switching, I was guessing that the mafia team could recruit me.  I did not have mod confirmation of that fact.

Also, if the Cylon test was at least in part town controlled, town should have said something.

[ashersky]

vote: day 1 plurality exile

[LaLight]

vote: Add a card "Course for Kobol" into the deck

[MiX]

@scola -- I don't know how you could have recruited me; I assumed the team knew.

@ADK -- you can switch characters and then not worry about the legacy stuff.

So what was all the "you have to exile me now" stuff about?

Well, with hindsight, he was town-aligned, but knew that if he was recruited he would join us, and begging to be exiled as town was a very clear way of signaling that we should recruit him. Obviously, we kind of overlooked that very obvious possibility lol.

I was town, I figured I was going to be mafia, thought it was in town's best interest to exile me.  Basically the same as how we should have exiled ADK as 3rd party.

Mafia never recruited me, so it didn't matter in the end.

I was not a traitor, as I was not cylon-aligned from the beginning.  Considering my character and the Cylon test result (later explained to be falsified by mafia!MiX), plus Awaclus's confirmation of alignment-switching, I was guessing that the mafia team could recruit me.  I did not have mod confirmation of that fact.

Also, if the Cylon test was at least in part town controlled, town should have said something.

I was telling you not to trust the cylon result over and over, maybe I should've just claimed the power publicly.

Although it is possible you could be recruited (as I don't know your entire claim, maybe your other power alludes to that more), I don't think anyone ended up knowing if that was the case. Which is...interesting. Given every other town player died but us, there's a real chance you were a hidden traitor, despite how bastard-y that may look.

There's so many unknown things about this setup. I love and hate that.

vote: Add a card "Course for Kobol" into the deck

Vote: Add Course for Kobol

Self-preservation (because I don't want both modifications to hurt the president )

[LaLight]

I am almost 99% sure that ash wasn't a hidden traitor. Hidden traitor can not exist in a non-bastard game and if he would have a chance to switch alignments, he would be told this might've happened. I might try asking faust

faust, is it possible to switch alignments in this game in a way that is not known to a player before the start of the game?

for instance, can there be a situation in which I have a town pm and then, say, on N3 it says "you are now in a scum team, here's your QT"?

[faust]

I am almost 99% sure that ash wasn't a hidden traitor. Hidden traitor can not exist in a non-bastard game and if he would have a chance to switch alignments, he would be told this might've happened. I might try asking faust

faust, is it possible to switch alignments in this game in a way that is not known to a player before the start of the game?

for instance, can there be a situation in which I have a town pm and then, say, on N3 it says "you are now in a scum team, here's your QT"?

Yes.

[MiX]

This seems to be in line with what Awaclus claimed, and he flipped town, so there's no reason to believe he was lying.

It's like we're still playing the game! Except scum don't lie, they just don't tell the truth now.

[LaLight]

It's like we're still playing the game! Except scum don't lie, they just don't tell the truth now.

that is actually cool

[LaLight]

I am almost 99% sure that ash wasn't a hidden traitor. Hidden traitor can not exist in a non-bastard game and if he would have a chance to switch alignments, he would be told this might've happened. I might try asking faust

faust, is it possible to switch alignments in this game in a way that is not known to a player before the start of the game?

for instance, can there be a situation in which I have a town pm and then, say, on N3 it says "you are now in a scum team, here's your QT"?

Yes.

that's.. weird to be honest.

[Awaclus]

Vote: Day 1 plurality exile

[Jack Rudd]

Vote: Separate Military from Government

Runner-up: Course for Kobol