I think controlling!MiX is more likely to be scum!MiX.
How exactly is mix being "controlling"?
There are a lot of examples of general attempts to shut down conversation about some topics, or not to share information on ExO cards etc. Against a back drop of those kinds of assertive statements, though, there's also some more specific stuff, for example, when MiX had the QT with Mathdude. First there was a directive to Mathdude to check in with it whenever he was posting (#244), then later on MiX literally said "If you don't want my help, then I don't want you alive" when Mathdude did something without asking MiX's permission. To me, that's language that wouldn't be at all okay in real-life social interaction, so I thought it crossed a bit of a line here too. I called it out at #248 and MiX responded "Talk to me when you find it scummy", which I felt was trying to shut down my observation about civility because it's not game-relevant.
Further on when Mathdude says something else QT-related, MiX says "please talk to me before revealing things in the thread I swear to god", where I'd generally read that ending as threatening language, and therefore classify it as controlling.
At #592, Scola asks MiX whether he'd consulted with ADK on the ExO card, because MiX had admonished Mathdude for not discussing the selection with him. MiX's response at #593 was that his demands of Mathdude were a way to get a read on him, and that since ADK is very experienced, MiX didn't need to do that with them. That seems to entirely miss the point that Scola was pointing out to MiX how hypocritical he was being.
As a last specific example, at #599 there's a throwaway reply that "It means that I don't feel like forcing them to make decisions through me will help them, or me." Again, MiX writes as if forcing people to do things is a socially acceptable way to behave, and I find that disturbing.
I don't know what I think about how alignment-indicative any of this is. It's possible that scum!MiX is less likely than town!MiX to make blanket comments about how anything is pro-town, simply because he's a player who's quite strongly biased by his current assumptions about the game, therefore maybe he's more likely to be so adamant over the "it's anti-town to tell you" line if he's really town, because scum!MiX would be more aware that he'd have to convince other people. Either way, I would prefer it to be non-alignment-indicative behaviour that MiX could learn to modify to be more mindful of how his writing might come across.
We are not here to argue how to act socially. We are here to catch scum. I'd hoped that you had understood this about me at this point, but I'm always confusing, so that's okay.
You constantly and consistently bring up NAI things about me. This doesn't help the game. The truth is, I find it much more comfortable to be nice and try to help everyone at everything, without imposing myself. The problem is, I want comfort when I'm scum. When I'm town, I actually do need to go against people, because being nice and helpful and friendly means scum can manipulate you. This also helps me have confidence in my reads, both townreads and scumreads. How can you scum read someone if they're a person? If we were all having a social and polite conversation, no one would mention the possibility of scum being among us.
After math's first game, I wanted to get a very, very good read on them. I knew I was capable of doing so, as I had done it once, but as the person with access to a QT with him, I felt like it was my duty to get a right read on him, and push it so the rest of town would agree. That was my number one thing to do that day, and so that's what I did: I talked to math a lot to see what he was thinking, and I was trying to help him out. I was generally townreading him. When he posted those things publicly, I got cold feet. What if he is scum? But it's my job to read him, I can't have any doubt about his alignment. So paranoia became frustration became anger. I cooled off quickly enough (at least the second time I went through this...), but of course you can't see our QT. Then I did the dayvig thing which told me math was 100% town, so now I wanted to cooperate with him. Second step, after me trusting him, is he trusting me, so I went to work on that. Of course, I'm not very good at that, so you can ask math when the game is over what he's thought about me over the course of this game.
Was I trying to control math into talking me through his decisions? Yes. Was I trying to control those decisions? Indirectly, yes, but he's a new player: I just wanted him to accept my input, and then do what he thinks is best. After his first order pick, you'd all do the same.
(About #592) I don't think I can address how hypocritical I was: I didn't think I was, and I still don't. Math and ADK are two very different people. Besides, scola should've asked ADK that, they're the ones that are now in the position I was with math.
Yes, I do think forcing people to vote for scum is socially acceptable in this game. I think that's half of town's job, to convince that their scumreads are accurate, while listening to other people doing the same thing (the other half is having accurate scumreads, and the third half is convincing town they're town. It's a very full game).
I'm not sure what my playstyle this game says about my alignment (as much as I want to say it screams town, as that's how I approach being town), but this post is what I would call high effort from me, even if it doesn't have a reread or a VCA (which are usually my high effort high points). Take it as you will.
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