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Cheap Trasher or source of Villagers idea.
« on: January 27, 2021, 10:26:49 pm »
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Ditch Digger - $2
Action
+1 Card
Choose one: +1 Villager; or trash a card from your hand; or put a card from your hand onto your deck.

So I have been working on designing cheap cards and came up with this design. Originally it was pretty bland and just gave +1 Action instead of a Villager and did not give +$1 when you trash a treasure. I want it to be an appealingly efficient trasher, but not quick like chapel or free on a given turn like Rat Catcher. My main concern is that the Villager bit is too strong at $2 or the +$1 for trashing Copper makes it too much of a no brainer to pick up.

Edit: Made the changes suggested by BBobb. I am going to stick with the +Villager version for now and try and do some playtesting with my game group. If it looks like Villagers are too easy to come by, that will likely be the first thing to change.

Edit2: After some review with others in my game group and reviewing feedback here design has been altered a bit. Dropped the $1 reward for trashing Copper and added a 3rd option that will very rarely ever be of use, but I like the 3 choice design. I have a version without the third option below and still plan to playtest the updated design.

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Re: Cheap Trasher or source of Villagers idea.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2021, 11:49:39 pm »
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Ditch Digger - $2
Action
+1 Card
Choose one: +1 Villager; or trash a card from your hand. If you trash a treasure this way, +$1.

So I have been working on designing cheap cards and came up with this design. Originally it was pretty bland and just gave +1 Action instead of a Villager and did not give +$1 when you trash a treasure. I want it to be an appealingly efficient trasher, but not quick like chapel or free on a given turn like Rat Catcher. My main concern is that the Villager bit is too strong at $2 or the +$1 for trashing Copper makes it too much of a no brainer to pick up.
For the wording, I would say:
+1 Card
Choose one: +1 Villager; or trash a card from your hand. If it's a Treasure, +.
See Sculptor for the wording.
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Re: Cheap Trasher or source of Villagers idea.
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2021, 01:00:27 am »
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I think the second option should be +1 Action instead of +1 Villager. This makes it less interesting, but it's still a good cheap trasher, probably on the strong side for $2.

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Re: Cheap Trasher or source of Villagers idea.
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2021, 01:21:20 am »
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I think it is strong but OK. Villager Cantrip as only option would already be fine at $2 but also a bit bland.
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Re: Cheap Trasher or source of Villagers idea.
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2021, 12:28:28 pm »
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I feel like the bonus upon trashing Treasures adds nothing to the card and just makes it unnecessarily strong. It has neither a thematic nor a functional reason for being there.

The card would be totally fine, and still quite strong, without giving $.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2021, 12:30:23 pm by faust »
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Re: Cheap Trasher or source of Villagers idea.
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2021, 01:55:02 pm »
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I feel like the bonus upon trashing Treasures adds nothing to the card and just makes it unnecessarily strong. It has neither a thematic nor a functional reason for being there.

The card would be totally fine, and still quite strong, without giving $.
I totally agree with you. It makes the card too powerful.
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Re: Cheap Trasher or source of Villagers idea.
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2021, 12:50:29 pm »
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I feel like the bonus upon trashing Treasures adds nothing to the card and just makes it unnecessarily strong. It has neither a thematic nor a functional reason for being there.

The card would be totally fine, and still quite strong, without giving $.
I totally agree with you. It makes the card too powerful.

After some deliberation I tend to agree there is no real reason to reward trashing a Copper in this design. Updated original post with a new version.
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