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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2021, 04:02:52 am »
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Snake Oil - $4
Treasure - Night
If it's your Buy phase: If your Journey token is face down (it starts face up), you may turn it over for +1 Buy and +$3. If you don't, +$2. If it's your Night phase, you may turn your Journey token over.

Just realized: Since its Buy phase effect always gives at least +, you could shorten this by rewording it as:
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If it's your Buy phase, + and if your Journey token is face down (it starts face up), you may turn it over for +1 Buy and +. If it's your Night phase, you may turn your Journey token over.
You could also drop the "you may" from the Night phase effect, since you could just not bother playing it if you don't want to turn your Journey token over (since the Night phase effect does nothing but flip your Journey token), and it would still qualify because of the Buy phase effect.
You could improve the wording by taking the +2$ out of the conditional, like so (with additional removal of some conditionals):

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+2$
If your Journey token is face down (it starts face up) or it's your Night phase, you may turn it over for +1 Buy, +1$.
(it technically now gives coins and Buys even in the Night phase, but that should not matter.)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2021, 09:55:46 am »
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This is not finished yet, but im pretty happy with this.



Its too strong, but im not sure where to nerf it.  ( the +2 actions used to be +3 actions, which was kinda nuts)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2021, 09:58:42 am »
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Edit: Revised text
Edit 2: Revised Reaction to trash another card from hand
« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 01:37:22 am by Timinou »
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2021, 10:34:17 am »
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Curator • $2 • Action - Reaction
+$2
You may turn your Journey token over (it starts face up).
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When you discard this other than during Clean-up, if your Journey token is face up, you may reveal this to gain 2 Silvers; if your Journey token is face down, you may reveal this to gain an Action costing up to $4.

Tunnel - workshop / tunnel - silver gainer. Might be too cheap for what it does, but if you don't have a way to discard it, it's essentially Duchess. Withdrew my other entry.

withdrawing this too; I think i found something i like better.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 03:17:17 pm by spineflu »
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2021, 10:36:33 am »
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This is not finished yet, but im pretty happy with this.



Its too strong, but im not sure where to nerf it.  ( the +2 actions used to be +3 actions, which was kinda nuts)
I don't see how this is "too strong". Without support, it is a worse Necropolis that can occasionally be a cantrip instead. It is also way too wordy. A streamlined version might look like this:

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Play up to 2 non-Pilgrim cards from your hand. If your Journey token is face down, +1 Action per card you did not play.
You may turn your Journey token over, to draw a card per Action you have. If you did, set your Actions to 1.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2021, 10:54:25 am »
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This is not finished yet, but im pretty happy with this.



Its too strong, but im not sure where to nerf it.  ( the +2 actions used to be +3 actions, which was kinda nuts)

alternative version
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2021, 12:09:33 pm »
+1

 
Translations:
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Village of the dead

+1 Card
+1 Action
If this is the first time you've played a Village of the Dead this turn, you may turn your Journey token over (it starts face up).
If your Journey token is facing up: +1$
Otherwise:+1 Action +1 Buy

Heirloom: Pumpkin patch
Cost: 5   Action
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Pumpkin patch

If your Journey token is facing up: +1$ +1 VP
Turn over your Journey token (it starts face up).

Cost: 4   Treasure Heirloom
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Unfortunately I haven't been able to playtest this yet, so it may be a bit unbalanced.

Edit: Small adjustments of the Heirloom and the english translation.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2021, 11:18:34 am by Meta »
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2021, 12:46:59 pm »
+1



This is missing a "from your hand" for the Reaction part.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2021, 01:53:57 pm »
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This is missing a "from your hand" for the Reaction part.

Thanks, I revised it in the OP. 
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2021, 04:30:29 pm »
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This is not finished yet, but im pretty happy with this.



Its too strong, but im not sure where to nerf it.  ( the +2 actions used to be +3 actions, which was kinda nuts)

alternative version

changed so on face down you gain a silver unto deck which is mostly bad
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2021, 04:53:30 pm »
+2

changed so on face down you gain a silver unto deck which is mostly bad

Just going to suggest to you some wording changes:
If your Journey token is Fface up, +3 Cards.
If your Journey token it's Fface down, gain a Silver uonto your deck.
You may turn your jJourney token over for . If you do, +1 aAction.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2021, 05:26:16 pm »
+1

 
Translations:
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Village of the dead

+1 Card
+1 Action
If u play this card the first time this turn, you may turn your Journey token over (it starts face up).
If your Journey token is facing up: +1$
Otherwise:+1 Action +1 Buy

Heirloom: Pumpkin patch
Cost: 5   Action
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Pumpkin patch

If your Journey token is facing up: +1$ +1 VP
Turn over your Journey token (it starts face up).

Cost: 4   Treasure Heirloom
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Unfortunately I haven't been able to playtest this yet, so it may be a bit unbalanced.

Edit: small change in translation, to match the english wording of the original cards

Today I learned what the word Heirloom means.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2021, 11:51:53 pm »
+1

 
Translations:
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Village of the dead

+1 Card
+1 Action
If u play this card the first time this turn, you may turn your Journey token over (it starts face up).
If your Journey token is facing up: +1$
Otherwise:+1 Action +1 Buy

Heirloom: Pumpkin patch
Cost: 5   Action
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Pumpkin patch

If your Journey token is facing up: +1$ +1 VP
Turn over your Journey token (it starts face up).

Cost: 4   Treasure Heirloom
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Unfortunately I haven't been able to playtest this yet, so it may be a bit unbalanced.

Edit: Small adjustments of the Heirloom (no change in effect)

The proper wording for Village of the Dead in English would be "if this is the first time you've played a Village of the Dead this turn..."
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #63 on: January 16, 2021, 01:36:51 am »
+1

Entry for the week:



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Fortified Village - Action - Reaction $4

+1 Card
+1 Action
Turn your Journey token over (it starts face up). Then if it's face down, +1 Action. If it's face up, +1 Card.   
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When another player plays an Attack card, you may reveal this from your hand to turn your Journey token over.

It alternates between being a Village and a Lab, but if you get attacked you get to pick what the next one will be. (or maybe you set up some other powerful Journey token card).

Feedback welcome (and encouraged!).
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2021, 02:55:40 am »
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Migrant Tribe ⑤ Action
+1 Card
+1 Action

You may turn over your
Journey token to get
+2 Cards and discard 2 cards.
Then, if your Journey token
is face up, +1 Villager.

It's a Villager Village that can also be Forum if you want it to (This isn't strictly better than Forum because Forum is buy-neutral).
You have all the stuff you want in hand? Then you can stay put and rack up some villagers. If you need the sifting, it'll be a little bit before you can settle down again.

(14 Jan Edit: removed "(it starts face up)".)
While this is indeed not strictly better than Forum, it is nonetheless better than it. A half Villager-Village is far stronger than the on-Buy effect of Forum.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2021, 03:25:30 am »
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changed so on face down you gain a silver unto deck which is mostly bad

Just going to suggest to you some wording changes:
If your Journey token is Fface up, +3 Cards.
If your Journey token it's Fface down, gain a Silver uonto your deck.
You may turn your jJourney token over for . If you do, +1 aAction.

thanks for the formatting suggestions.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2021, 04:23:41 am »
+1

Imo, cut out the part with the Silver and you have a really good design. (Smithy that can nuke the next smithy for +1 Action). If that's too weak, make the other option +1 card. The silver is awkward.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2021, 04:56:41 am »
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A much needed new entry:

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Quay - Action Duration, $4 cost.
You may discard 2 cards to turn your Journey token over. Then, if it's face up, +4 Cards.
At the start of your next turn, if it's face down, +3 Cards.
Tricky to make the optional journey token flip be interesting whilst interacting fine with the official Journey token cards.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2021, 07:28:10 am »
+2

changed so on face down you gain a silver unto deck which is mostly bad


hows this silverspawn? this is quite nice to look at tbh, not too many words
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2021, 10:12:26 am »
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changed so on face down you gain a silver unto deck which is mostly bad


hows this silverspawn? this is quite nice to look at tbh, not too many words


I like this. Just a nitpick: “Cards” and “Actions” should be capitalized. 
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2021, 10:37:47 am »
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I like this. Just a nitpick: “Cards” and “Actions” should be capitalized. 

... and it's missing two periods.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2021, 01:22:08 pm »
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oh yeah. spelling.
I'd strongly suggest allowing you to flip the token before you draw, rather than after. The reason being, it's most useful to get +3 Cards, +1 Action at the start of your turn, and then have subsequent plays still give +3 cards. Once you've drawn your deck, the last play of Pilgrim can be to flip the token again, setting up for the next turn.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2021, 01:52:28 pm »
+3

I'd strongly suggest allowing you to flip the token before you draw, rather than after. The reason being, it's most useful to get +3 Cards, +1 Action at the start of your turn, and then have subsequent plays still give +3 cards. Once you've drawn your deck, the last play of Pilgrim can be to flip the token again, setting up for the next turn.

I'm not sure if you thought that through. The token starts face up. That means (assuming you flip the order) you start off with a card that is either +3 Cards or +1 Action. This doesn't give anything over Smithy. If you have no villages, neither option lets you salvage your turn. If you want to prepare it for next turn, you have to first sacrifice one for just +1 Action. It is a major nerf.

And it's an even bigger nerf in a second way: if you 'power up' the Pilgrim by going with just the +1 Action, then you have to collect your benefit the next time you play a Pilgrim. You can't save the +1 Action, +3 card play for when you need it.

Conversely, with the order as-is, you start off with +3 Cards, and can take +1 Action whenever you need it, which you then have to pay for by playing your subsequent Pilgrim for +1 Action.

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #101: You may turn your Journey token over
« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2021, 02:33:39 pm »
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I don't consider lacking +1 Action on the first play a "major nerf". But if it's an issue, there's a simple fix, albeit one that buffs Adventures cards: just change "face-up" to "face-down'.

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And it's an even bigger nerf in a second way: if you 'power up' the Pilgrim by going with just the +1 Action, then you have to collect your benefit the next time you play a Pilgrim. You can't save the +1 Action, +3 card play for when you need it.
Sure, you have to collect the benefit immediately, but with the previous version, you have to pay the cost immediately instead. You can use Pilgrim in the middle of your turn, but if you don't have 2 more Pilgrims in hand your turn is essentially dead. With the flipped version, you can delay paying the cost until your deck is already drawn.

In general, it's better to play your strongest draw effects at the beginning of your turn, and your weakest draw effects at the end. This is why I suggested the change. And since +Actions last until the end of your turn, it's not an issue to take +Action at the start of your turn if you can spend it later on.
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