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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #175 on: December 30, 2020, 02:29:13 am »
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Added Traveller type, made all Seasons cantrips and changed Four Seasons to .




               

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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #176 on: December 30, 2020, 03:27:27 am »
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Updated these two cards:

            
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #177 on: December 30, 2020, 04:15:57 am »
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Added Traveller type, made all Seasons cantrips and changed Four Seasons to .




               
I like this a lot as I a am a sucker for cards that want to be matched with others. I also think it is wise to nerf the Laboratory-Season aka Spring as this is potentially the most explosive of the vanila bunch.
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #178 on: December 30, 2020, 12:05:32 pm »
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Updated these two cards:

          
Nightmare would be a political attack, as you could give one person a scout, and the other a colony in a three person game
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #179 on: December 30, 2020, 01:55:17 pm »
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Updated these two cards:

          
Nightmare would be a political attack, as you could give one person a scout, and the other a colony in a three person game

I was aware of this, but it happens only with intentional sub-par playing. Similar situations could happen with Jester, Swindler or Oracle, for example.

Anyway, I think I can reduce this risk.

What I want is to give other cards, especially Coppers when Curse pile is out. Otherwise, you could pin the opponent.

Maybe it could be better if I write "a card you choose from one of the cheapest available in Supply".
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #180 on: December 30, 2020, 02:42:20 pm »
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Updated these two cards:

          
Nightmare would be a political attack, as you could give one person a scout, and the other a colony in a three person game

I was aware of this, but it happens only with intentional sub-par playing. Similar situations could happen with Jester, Swindler or Oracle, for example.

Anyway, I think I can reduce this risk.

What I want is to give other cards, especially Coppers when Curse pile is out. Otherwise, you could pin the opponent.

Maybe it could be better if I write "a card you choose from one of the cheapest available in Supply".

You'd have to specify "cheapest in ," because once the Coppers and Curses run out, there is no "cheapest" if Vineyards are in the Kingdom ( is not less than , nor is less than ).
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #181 on: December 30, 2020, 02:54:41 pm »
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Updated these two cards:

     
Nightmare would be a political attack, as you could give one person a scout, and the other a colony in a three person game

I was aware of this, but it happens only with intentional sub-par playing. Similar situations could happen with Jester, Swindler or Oracle, for example.

Anyway, I think I can reduce this risk.

What I want is to give other cards, especially Coppers when Curse pile is out. Otherwise, you could pin the opponent.

Maybe it could be better if I write "a card you choose from one of the cheapest available in Supply".

You'd have to specify "cheapest in ," because once the Coppers and Curses run out, there is no "cheapest" if Vineyards are in the Kingdom ( is not less than , nor is less than ).

You could just say zero cost since it'd be extremely rare for both the Curses and Coppers to run out.

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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #182 on: December 30, 2020, 03:04:10 pm »
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It's probably fine for Nightmare to just say "they gain a Curse (or a Copper if they can't)." If both the Curses and Coppers are out and the game hasn't ended, then that's the fault of the players, not the card.
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #183 on: December 30, 2020, 03:59:10 pm »
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Nightmare would be a political attack, as you could give one person a scout, and the other a colony in a three person game

That's not really the concern with "political" attacks. The politics issue is "picking who to hose", as Donald X. puts it. For Nightmare, that only happens when there aren't quite enough Curses to go around and you have to pick who gets them. Personally I'd be willing to live with that, but your mileage may vary.
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #184 on: December 31, 2020, 12:48:30 am »
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Added Traveller type, made all Seasons cantrips and changed Four Seasons to .




               
I like this a lot as I a am a sucker for cards that want to be matched with others. I also think it is wise to nerf the Laboratory-Season aka Spring as this is potentially the most explosive of the vanila bunch.


Yes, you're right. Nerfed Spring. I think they are more well balanced now.

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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #185 on: December 31, 2020, 01:08:20 am »
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Updated these two cards:

     
Nightmare would be a political attack, as you could give one person a scout, and the other a colony in a three person game

I was aware of this, but it happens only with intentional sub-par playing. Similar situations could happen with Jester, Swindler or Oracle, for example.

Anyway, I think I can reduce this risk.

What I want is to give other cards, especially Coppers when Curse pile is out. Otherwise, you could pin the opponent.

Maybe it could be better if I write "a card you choose from one of the cheapest available in Supply".

You'd have to specify "cheapest in ," because once the Coppers and Curses run out, there is no "cheapest" if Vineyards are in the Kingdom ( is not less than , nor is less than ).

You could just say zero cost since it'd be extremely rare for both the Curses and Coppers to run out.

It's probably fine for Nightmare to just say "they gain a Curse (or a Copper if they can't)." If both the Curses and Coppers are out and the game hasn't ended, then that's the fault of the players, not the card.

Nightmare would be a political attack, as you could give one person a scout, and the other a colony in a three person game

That's not really the concern with "political" attacks. The politics issue is "picking who to hose", as Donald X. puts it. For Nightmare, that only happens when there aren't quite enough Curses to go around and you have to pick who gets them. Personally I'd be willing to live with that, but your mileage may vary.


As it is, maybe sometimes you may want to give other card, even when Curse pile is not empty. 

                       
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #186 on: December 31, 2020, 10:22:22 pm »
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Nightmare would be used in endgames to deplete piles, is that an intended usage?

- Deplete 3 piles faster!
- If there are two provinces left and you lead, give the penultimate province to your opponent, and buy the last one. Checkmate!
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #187 on: January 01, 2021, 12:38:01 am »
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Nightmare would be used in endgames to deplete piles, is that an intended usage?

- Deplete 3 piles faster!
- If there are two provinces left and you lead, give the penultimate province to your opponent, and buy the last one. Checkmate!

Welcome to the Forum!

The main intention was to give other cards when Curse pile is empty.  You pointed other instersting uses for it in endgame. Thank you!
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #188 on: January 01, 2021, 02:16:04 pm »
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Welcome to the Forum!

Thank you! Yes, I just joined here because I enjoy Dominion a lot and I really love seeing fan cards. Happy New Year!
I wanted to say the Venus expansion looks awesome. It has a lot of very interesting cards, seems very well put together, and the chosen artwork looks fabulous. I definitely want to play it !!!
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #189 on: January 01, 2021, 06:25:24 pm »
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Welcome to the Forum!

Thank you! Yes, I just joined here because I enjoy Dominion a lot and I really love seeing fan cards. Happy New Year!
I wanted to say the Venus expansion looks awesome. It has a lot of very interesting cards, seems very well put together, and the chosen artwork looks fabulous. I definitely want to play it !!!

Thank you very much! I'm happy you like it.
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #190 on: January 02, 2021, 12:18:49 am »
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Added this gainer, a kind of Horn of Plenty variant.

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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #191 on: January 02, 2021, 12:35:20 am »
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Added this gainer, a kind of Horn of Plenty variant.


Why would you ever play it as an Action? I also think that this should cost more than horn of plenty, seeing as you can get more actions in play than differently named cards
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #192 on: January 02, 2021, 12:38:30 am »
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Added this gainer, a kind of Horn of Plenty variant.


Why would you ever play it as an Action? I also think that this should cost more than horn of plenty, seeing as you can get more actions in play than differently named cards

The answer for your two questions is the same: It gains a card costing exactly the number of action cards played.
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #193 on: January 02, 2021, 12:49:07 am »
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Minor nitpick: "Card" shouldn't be capitalized.
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #194 on: January 02, 2021, 12:50:32 am »
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Added this gainer, a kind of Horn of Plenty variant.


Why would you ever play it as an Action? I also think that this should cost more than horn of plenty, seeing as you can get more actions in play than differently named cards

The answer for your two questions is the same: It gains a card costing exactly the number of action cards played.
If you play it as an treasure card, it still counts towards action cards in play
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #195 on: January 02, 2021, 12:56:11 am »
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Minor nitpick: "Card" shouldn't be capitalized.

Yes, fixed.

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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #196 on: January 02, 2021, 12:58:17 am »
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Added this gainer, a kind of Horn of Plenty variant.


Why would you ever play it as an Action? I also think that this should cost more than horn of plenty, seeing as you can get more actions in play than differently named cards

The answer for your two questions is the same: It gains a card costing exactly the number of action cards played.
If you play it as an treasure card, it still counts towards action cards in play

Yes, but you could reach Buy phase with 7, 9, 12 or any other number of actions played.
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #197 on: January 02, 2021, 01:00:00 am »
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Added this gainer, a kind of Horn of Plenty variant.


Why would you ever play it as an Action? I also think that this should cost more than horn of plenty, seeing as you can get more actions in play than differently named cards

The answer for your two questions is the same: It gains a card costing exactly the number of action cards played.
If you play it as an treasure card, it still counts towards action cards in play

Yes, but you can reach Buy phase with 7, 9, 12 or any other number of actions played.
I meant that towards my first question of "Why would anyone play it as an action while they could play it as a treasure"
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #198 on: January 02, 2021, 01:06:40 am »
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Added this gainer, a kind of Horn of Plenty variant.


Why would you ever play it as an Action? I also think that this should cost more than horn of plenty, seeing as you can get more actions in play than differently named cards

The answer for your two questions is the same: It gains a card costing exactly the number of action cards played.
If you play it as an treasure card, it still counts towards action cards in play

Yes, but you can reach Buy phase with 7, 9, 12 or any other number of actions played.
I meant that towards my first question of "Why would anyone play it as an action while they could play it as a treasure"

You would play it in Action phase to reach the exact number of Actions played you want and still play other Actions after that. Sometimes you would reach Buy phase with more Actions played than the cost of any available card. In this situation, there's no point to play it in Buy phase and you would better play it in Action phase. Also you may want to play it in Action phase due to the tricks gainers in Action phase can do when interact with other cards, like gain an action card, draw it and play it in the same turn. It costs less than Horn of Plenty because you have to play it in the exact place in playing order which corresponds to the cost of the desired card.
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Re: Dominion: Venus, a fan expansion by Carline
« Reply #199 on: January 02, 2021, 02:13:58 am »
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The name and the art don't really make sense together, IMHO. Based on the art, I'd suggest calling it "Noblewoman," or something similar.

Speaking of art, where do you find your art, Carline? Did you draw your art for all these cards yourself?
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