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Author Topic: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Game Over! Town Wins!  (Read 130521 times)

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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #725 on: May 21, 2021, 09:50:59 am »

Plus Math was so obviously town that losing him hurts my soul.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #726 on: May 21, 2021, 09:55:32 am »

I think the whole nature of the mathdude kamikaze circumstance makes the wagon analysis a complete shot in the dark. What about anyone's position on or off the wagon tells us their potential alignment? It was a town gambit that required town participation to happen. I find it ironic that his name is mathdude and as a very non mathdude myself I still see his number guess as the poorest utility in the event of being wrong. I personally and quite averse to gambling and while I'm probably poor at risk assessment I like to think I can solve basic odds analysis. Of the options 0,1,2 I feel he picked the worst one and that is self evident today. High risk high reward or abysmal payoff.

I guess all that is to say I am already suspicious of wagon analysis and this particular wagon is even more suspect for analysis and anyone trying to leverage it seems suspect to me.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #727 on: May 21, 2021, 09:57:06 am »

I agree ^^

But I share a similar perspective to PPS, haha.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #728 on: May 21, 2021, 10:02:50 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #729 on: May 21, 2021, 10:22:47 am »

Unvote cause uncle's at X-2.

There's plenty of wagon analysis: in D2. Yeah.

I don't think it matters what people advocated for math's guess, but rather how.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #730 on: May 21, 2021, 10:24:23 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.

Can you explain the leap you're making from there must be scum off wagon to maybe not if there's a different scum count than 2 per timeline? What information is driving this certainty?
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #731 on: May 21, 2021, 10:24:32 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.

Finally, I haven’t had a solid read in awhile, Vote: Hypercube
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #732 on: May 21, 2021, 10:26:14 am »

Unvote cause uncle's at X-2.

There's plenty of wagon analysis: in D2. Yeah.

I don't think it matters what people advocated for math's guess, but rather how.

I didn’t even see that you had voted, haha.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #733 on: May 21, 2021, 10:28:59 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.

Can you explain the leap you're making from there must be scum off wagon to maybe not if there's a different scum count than 2 per timeline? What information is driving this certainty?

If you're town, then from your perspective there are two options: either Eddie is scum or there's 1 or 3 scum in this timeline.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #734 on: May 21, 2021, 10:30:41 am »

(or 0 or 4+ but I don't think those options are worth considering).
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #735 on: May 21, 2021, 10:31:23 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.

Can you explain the leap you're making from there must be scum off wagon to maybe not if there's a different scum count than 2 per timeline? What information is driving this certainty?

If you're town, then from your perspective there are two options: either Eddie is scum or there's 1 or 3 scum in this timeline.

How is there a necessary 1v1 between me and Eddie in a 2 scum scenario? Why does a different scenario necessarily change that?
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #736 on: May 21, 2021, 10:33:16 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.

Can you explain the leap you're making from there must be scum off wagon to maybe not if there's a different scum count than 2 per timeline? What information is driving this certainty?

If you're town, then from your perspective there are two options: either Eddie is scum or there's 1 or 3 scum in this timeline.

How is there a necessary 1v1 between me and Eddie in a 2 scum scenario? Why does a different scenario necessarily change that?

You and I are the only people off wagon.

So if there are two scum in this timeline (and we know that they both weren’t on wagon) then at least one of us is evil.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #737 on: May 21, 2021, 10:33:43 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.

Can you explain the leap you're making from there must be scum off wagon to maybe not if there's a different scum count than 2 per timeline? What information is driving this certainty?

If you're town, then from your perspective there are two options: either Eddie is scum or there's 1 or 3 scum in this timeline.

How is there a necessary 1v1 between me and Eddie in a 2 scum scenario? Why does a different scenario necessarily change that?

The math info: you are the two outside the math wagon that are alive.

PPE: yeah that
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #738 on: May 21, 2021, 10:34:16 am »

Can someone check what number Hypercube was pitching? I doubt it will change my read, but it might be enough for you people to take a look at it.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #739 on: May 21, 2021, 10:36:48 am »

At this moment, if I maintain 2-per timeline, my money is on PPS/Cube

And that’s even before Math’s result.

We have to remember that scum CHOSE to kill chairs.

So me/PPS both being scum is the most insane play ever to be made.

And I would be honored if you voted on me with that argument.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #740 on: May 21, 2021, 10:38:58 am »

Can someone check what number Hypercube was pitching? I doubt it will change my read, but it might be enough for you people to take a look at it.

"1, shrug" describes hyper's opinion on the number perfectly. There's s big post math made in D1 with all the opinions if you wanna look at it yourself.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #741 on: May 21, 2021, 10:40:09 am »

Can someone check what number Hypercube was pitching? I doubt it will change my read, but it might be enough for you people to take a look at it.

"1, shrug" describes hyper's opinion on the number perfectly. There's s big post math made in D1 with all the opinions if you wanna look at it yourself.

Nah, that post misrepresented my opinion, so I don’t like looking at it.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #742 on: May 21, 2021, 10:41:08 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.

Can you explain the leap you're making from there must be scum off wagon to maybe not if there's a different scum count than 2 per timeline? What information is driving this certainty?

So, it's just a simple commitment to the assumption that 2 scum would not have been on the math wagon?

If you're town, then from your perspective there are two options: either Eddie is scum or there's 1 or 3 scum in this timeline.

How is there a necessary 1v1 between me and Eddie in a 2 scum scenario? Why does a different scenario necessarily change that?

The math info: you are the two outside the math wagon that are alive.

PPE: yeah that
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #743 on: May 21, 2021, 10:42:01 am »

Hmm maybe you're both scum then. Unless there's a case for there being 1 or 3 scum in this timeline that I'm missing.

Can you explain the leap you're making from there must be scum off wagon to maybe not if there's a different scum count than 2 per timeline? What information is driving this certainty?

If you're town, then from your perspective there are two options: either Eddie is scum or there's 1 or 3 scum in this timeline.

How is there a necessary 1v1 between me and Eddie in a 2 scum scenario? Why does a different scenario necessarily change that?

The math info: you are the two outside the math wagon that are alive.

PPE: yeah that


So, it's just a simple commitment to the assumption that 2 scum would not have been on the math wagon?

apologies not used to this forum in a long while and btw, it kinda sucks.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #744 on: May 21, 2021, 10:42:29 am »

Assumption? That's what math died to tell us.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #745 on: May 21, 2021, 10:43:59 am »

This forum is better than MU, I'll tell you that. No 5 seconds everytime I want to load a page. It adds up.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #746 on: May 21, 2021, 10:47:43 am »

Assumption? That's what math died to tell us.

Did PPS just do the scummiest town slip I have ever seen? I am so confused.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #747 on: May 21, 2021, 10:49:02 am »

I'm willing to believe that PPS is town who didn't think this all through/pay attention to EOD1, and that Eddie is scum who did think this all through and really needs to find a way to exile someone who isn't PPS.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #748 on: May 21, 2021, 10:51:26 am »

I am less willing to believe that, funnily enough.

It’s insane how much my radar is going off on Cube right now.

Every world should have me voting for PPS.

I dunno, man.

I could be wrong here, but I think it’s cube.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Night 2
« Reply #749 on: May 21, 2021, 10:53:11 am »

Can you explain that read, Uncle? I don't even see a "he's scum cause he's, like, scummy, you see" post and I'd like one of those.
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