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Author Topic: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Game Over! Town Wins!  (Read 132736 times)

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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #550 on: May 16, 2021, 05:28:29 pm »

I will say that Joth has been acting slightly more townie in private than he has in the main thread.

Not much, but enough that I found it worth mentioning.

The main issue I am having is that both versions of a Joth would be frustrated at Ash right now.

I guess I feel pretty confident that Ash and Joth ain’t scum buddies, but that’s it.

Can you say more about how joth is being towny?
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #551 on: May 16, 2021, 08:04:20 pm »

How does Roleblocker fit with your flavor?

Roleblockers have been flavored as prostitutes from the early days of mafia. I think the idea is that they distract the target for the night. If you search prostitute on mafiascum wiki it redirects to roleblocker.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #552 on: May 16, 2021, 10:23:44 pm »

Roleblocker is also, of course, a popular anti-town role for anti-town alignments.  Town versions exist, which make them a go-to claim for mafia.

Just pointing that out.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #553 on: May 16, 2021, 10:25:15 pm »

I'd like to invite joth (and any other players who would like) to continue to try to make a case, any case, that I am not town.  It's super hilarious.  I get why many may not understand why, but it is.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #554 on: May 16, 2021, 10:25:46 pm »

Roleblocker is also, of course, a popular anti-town role for anti-town alignments.  Town versions exist, which make them a go-to claim for mafia.

Just pointing that out.

Believe me, if I were scum I would have claimed doctor or something else undeniably towny. Unfortunately I'm town and have to claim my real role.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #555 on: May 16, 2021, 10:27:03 pm »

I'd like to invite joth (and any other players who would like) to continue to try to make a case, any case, that I am not town.  It's super hilarious.  I get why many may not understand why, but it is.

Ok. So far you've done absolutely nothing protown this game. Day one you did a bunch of setup talk, which is easy peezy acti-lurking, and today you've done nothing but your lazy, preposterous manufactured 1v1 on me.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #556 on: May 16, 2021, 10:44:58 pm »

joth, who would you exile other than ashersky?
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #557 on: May 16, 2021, 11:11:31 pm »

I'd like to invite joth (and any other players who would like) to continue to try to make a case, any case, that I am not town.  It's super hilarious.  I get why many may not understand why, but it is.

Ok. So far you've done absolutely nothing protown this game. Day one you did a bunch of setup talk, which is easy peezy acti-lurking, and today you've done nothing but your lazy, preposterous manufactured 1v1 on me.

I disagree that what I've done has not been protown.  I agree with your Day 1 assessment.  The 1v1 may be manufactured, but definitely not lazy.  It's a lot of work!
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #558 on: May 16, 2021, 11:17:42 pm »

joth, who would you exile other than ashersky?

In this timeline or in either timeline?
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #559 on: May 16, 2021, 11:50:50 pm »

I will say that Joth has been acting slightly more townie in private than he has in the main thread.

Not much, but enough that I found it worth mentioning.

The main issue I am having is that both versions of a Joth would be frustrated at Ash right now.

I guess I feel pretty confident that Ash and Joth ain’t scum buddies, but that’s it.

Can you say more about how joth is being towny?

Eh, his interactions with me have been minimal, but his frustration seems genuine.

But it’s hard to say.

He seems bewildered as to how I (or anyone) could possibly see Ash as Townier than him.

It’s hard to say, I haven’t had the best track record at reading Joth.

He also did claim to be a scummy role to me few days ago, so his fakeclaim was either figured out days ago, or it isn’t fake.

I honestly can’t make heads or tails of him.

I scum leaned him day 1, but his posts to me directly have left me closer to null.

Make of that what you will.

I find value in at least setting up some cases for others today.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #560 on: May 16, 2021, 11:52:21 pm »

(Well, his fakeclaim If definitely not fake)

(But is an escort really town aligned? Ehh...)
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #561 on: May 17, 2021, 12:12:44 am »

Vote Count 2.5:

Joth (3): WCD, EFHW, Ashersky
Ashersky (2): Joth, scolapasta
WestCoastDidds (1): Dylan32

Not Voting (8): Galzria, MiX, Eddie, chairs, hypercube, Glooble, PPS, Awaclus


With 7 alive on the ACTIVE TIMELINE, it takes 4 to Exile.
Day 2 ends Tuesday, May 18th at 4:55pm Forum Time - That is less than 2 days from now.

Today the active timeline is the FORWARD TIMELINE We will remain in the FORWARD TIMELINE until the start of Day 3.
Only players from the currently active timeline may vote, or be voted for.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #562 on: May 17, 2021, 02:26:00 am »

If anyone was asking me, I would say Galzria is the other option for today.

And I say that with a heavy heart, of course.  But man, talk about inactive.  Town!galz is just much more active than this usually.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #563 on: May 17, 2021, 03:34:56 am »

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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #564 on: May 17, 2021, 06:19:37 am »

I'd like to invite joth (and any other players who would like) to continue to try to make a case, any case, that I am not town.  It's super hilarious.  I get why many may not understand why, but it is.

I did make a point that everyone ignored, so I’ll say it again- putting joth to E-1 and saying it was E-2 was scummy. What’s your defense of that?
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #565 on: May 17, 2021, 06:41:50 am »


He seems bewildered as to how I (or anyone) could possibly see Ash as Townier than him.


Honestly, same. I’m incredibly bewildered that we haven’t already exiled ash.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #566 on: May 17, 2021, 06:45:01 am »

I’d also like EFHW to respond to my earlier accusation towards her.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #567 on: May 17, 2021, 06:53:35 am »

I'd like to invite joth (and any other players who would like) to continue to try to make a case, any case, that I am not town.  It's super hilarious.  I get why many may not understand why, but it is.

I did make a point that everyone ignored, so I’ll say it again- putting joth to E-1 and saying it was E-2 was scummy. What’s your defense of that?
This ignores the E-1 elephant that's been standing in the room for some time now. Diverting from that is far scummier.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #568 on: May 17, 2021, 06:54:22 am »

I'd like to invite joth (and any other players who would like) to continue to try to make a case, any case, that I am not town.  It's super hilarious.  I get why many may not understand why, but it is.

I did make a point that everyone ignored, so I’ll say it again- putting joth to E-1 and saying it was E-2 was scummy. What’s your defense of that?
This ignores the E-1 elephant that's been standing in the room for some time now. Diverting from that is far scummier.

I literally don’t understand what you’re saying here.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #569 on: May 17, 2021, 07:00:20 am »

Also Roleblocker is a weird fakeclaim to make as scum, especially given joth’s position today. Why wouldn’t he claim something really good and at least try to bait out a counterclaim?
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #570 on: May 17, 2021, 08:05:17 am »

Hmmm...  if there are two baddies on our timeline, and it takes 4 to exile, then we (town) pretty much all need to be on the same page to make that happen.

That Joth has been cold chilling at E-1 for like a day now is interesting in that regard. In the last game I played when someone couldn’t get exiled, it was because they were scum. Glooble leanibg way in to defend Joth is interesting to me, too.

I’m not quite sure what up make of Dylan’s vote for me, or Galz’s absence. Absent Galz is often scum Galz. Do we know who his qt-mate is? Has he shown up there? The odds of no exile go way up if someone just stays away, but that seems to suit scum way better than town as long as we’re in split timelines.

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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #571 on: May 17, 2021, 09:20:15 am »

joth, who would you exile other than ashersky?

In this timeline or in either timeline?
This one
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« Reply #572 on: May 17, 2021, 09:22:15 am »

I’d also like EFHW to respond to my earlier accusation towards her.

Didn't realize you were that serious. I didn't notice the E2/E1 issue until you pointed it out.
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #573 on: May 17, 2021, 09:28:48 am »

I’d also like EFHW to respond to my earlier accusation towards her.

Didn't realize you were that serious. I didn't notice the E2/E1 issue until you pointed it out.

Interesting. I don't buy it. When you voted for joth, you had to have known how many votes were already on him. When you saw ash's vote and subsequent incorrect vote count, how could you not have noticed an error?
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Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 2
« Reply #574 on: May 17, 2021, 09:42:22 am »

If I could vote right now, I would have just moved my vote from ash to EFHW. Because if ash v. joth is town v. town, then scum!EFHW not pointing out ash's error makes a lot more sense to me than town!EFHW just not noticing. And if ash is scum and joth is town, same thing. It becomes a concerted ploy to trick a townie into hammering while thinking they're just putting joth to E-1. And if they're caught "oh, sorry, we just didn't notice, we made a mistake."

Well, I'll buy one player of their caliber making that mistake. But both? For 16 hours? No, sorry.

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