So, Galz is basically the most townread player here, over the claimed PR. Why is that? Let's find out.
As always, I will assume Galz is scum so I have the same bias for all of these, but it's really hard for him, he's my one townread (so most likely scum).
Well uh I think that's actually like x-1 what the hell
Unvote
Oh spare me the faux panicky unvoting when there's little real danger we'd exile MiX.
But also, this.
vote: Chairs
Robz - why did you make this post but not vote for Chairs?
Why does Galz help scum push a wagon in broad daylight? What's the reason for this? It doesn't make sense if they're scum.
As Robz put it via Mcmc: Annoying posting does not equal scummy posting.
(I don’t think it’s annoying at all. ❤️ Hearthstone. Posts make me chuckle).
The point being, there’s nothing in those posts that are alignment indicative. Judge game posts, not fluff posts.
Null, but I went over this post a bunch of times to see if it makes more sense as town or scum. It's a mild way of saying Robz is townie to the thread without saying it himself, but that's about it in terms of not being NAI.
I’m not sold on his explanation for lack of vote against Chairs. At least, he called Chairs post “annoying but not scummy”, and I disagree - I think it’s scummy. Or at least, I think it’s more in the alignment indicative category than NAI category,
So it it scummy, or just...the opposite of null? This post itself is null as it's factually correct.
Does one of us have to be scum? Why?
Awkward question to Swowl asking pops if Galz or Robz were scum in her eyes. This is just as scummy as the question, however.
I think it’s far easier more likely for scum to hide behind the artifice of false indignation over the existence of off-topic fluff posts than it is for scum to continuously go through the effort of making them. It’s the easiest of ways to appear pro-Town without actually committing to anything game-relevant.
I’m happy with my Chairs vote right now.
Townie post, since it explains his vote on chairs, but I personally don't like it :/
Reading Galz is hard.
Random reads time.
Swowl and I rarely butt heads in games. I also feel like we’re rarely town together - but that’s mostly because he rolled scum 9 games in a row and I feel like I defy the odds on doing so. In any event, he’s not top of my list.
Robz is probably scum. Nothing about his posts suggests this directly, and he’s been super buddy-buddy towards me so it pains me to have this read (especially if he’s in fact town just generally agreeing with me)... but I’m always more suspicious of people agreeing with me than those that disagree with me. Call it Reverse OMGUS.
Pops... I just like her style. Could be scum, but it’s not the vibe I’m getting from her. There was a veiled reference made earlier that pinged me though ... need to do some research before making a conclusion on that.
Chairs is by far the scummiest player. See: Fake reaction to early voting MiX; Fake indignation over fluff posts & vote for Pops; Bad wagoning on Swowl.
EFHW is in this game?
Didds isn’t substance-engaged and it’s weird. But I’m not convinced it makes her scum. I have another reason for being suspicious here, but I’m waiting to see how it develops.
Oh! Dylan is very townie.
MiX is annoying. Probably town because every post he makes leaves me wanting him not to be.
Joth is Joth. Also probably town, but he’s hard for me to read.
Space is slightly scummy, but it’s so mild a lean that it’s probably just a bias I have on reading them.
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I think that leaves Scola & LaLight?
Both are pretty neutral for me. Nothing stands out from either. Scola is slightly more memorable in a townie way. LaLight I got nothing on.
Scumreads: Robz/chairs/Space. I have no idea what the read on Swowl is from this, however. Hard to say if it's townie or scummy to scumread scum at this stage of the game.
When did I buddy you???
Lol iso yourself. You’re super agreeable towards me. Not saying I MIND though...
Good breadcrumb of Scarlet Witch, really weird interaction, I can see Galz be scum now, yeah.
what is the chance that this Robz-Galz thing is town v town? what's the chance that it's scum v scum. These are good questions to ask.
The setup and combination of questions is better than what MiX asked regarding Me & Swowl.
Generally speaking, I hate X vs Y questions. They’re setup questions that frame two people in a “one must be scum” light with no real, honest reasoning being it. Town players disagree and debate far more often than town vs scum do. It’s much more townie and reasonable to ask “What’s your read on X”, and “What’s your read on Y”. Asking “What do you think of X vs Y” is just scummy.
Completely destroys any talk about Galz/Robz's alignments. Sure helps if they're both scum.
Points out all the little ways Robz buddied up Galzria. Given Robz' flip on him D2, this seems like a terrible way for Robz to dealwith Galz, right? Unless he was actually bussing instead.
what is the chance that this Robz-Galz thing is town v town? what's the chance that it's scum v scum. These are good questions to ask.
The setup and combination of questions is better than what MiX asked regarding Me & Swowl.
Generally speaking, I hate X vs Y questions. They’re setup questions that frame two people in a “one must be scum” light with no real, honest reasoning being it. Town players disagree and debate far more often than town vs scum do. It’s much more townie and reasonable to ask “What’s your read on X”, and “What’s your read on Y”. Asking “What do you think of X vs Y” is just scummy.
I half agree. It's difficult but not impossible to tell scum vs town apart from town vs town. But it's very worthwhile to look for scum vs scum interactions (outside of multiball) since they're entirely manufactured.
Oh, certainly. Which is why I said that I like the way you put the combinations of questions better than I liked the way MiX phrased his question.
This is just contradictory. He was against what joth said, and then agreed with him?
what is the chance that this Robz-Galz thing is town v town? what's the chance that it's scum v scum. These are good questions to ask.
The setup and combination of questions is better than what MiX asked regarding Me & Swowl.
Generally speaking, I hate X vs Y questions. They’re setup questions that frame two people in a “one must be scum” light with no real, honest reasoning being it. Town players disagree and debate far more often than town vs scum do. It’s much more townie and reasonable to ask “What’s your read on X”, and “What’s your read on Y”. Asking “What do you think of X vs Y” is just scummy.
I half agree. It's difficult but not impossible to tell scum vs town apart from town vs town. But it's very worthwhile to look for scum vs scum interactions (outside of multiball) since they're entirely manufactured.
Oh, certainly. Which is why I said that I like the way you put the combinations of questions better than I liked the way MiX phrased his question.
"Don't worry guys, we're not actually scumreading each other, this is all fake, we're buddies, see?"
I didn't understand this post then, and I don't understand this post now.
Swowl did something legitimately scummy, or at least something I can identify as perhaps scummy, maybe? which is the best I can do for Day 1 at least. It's not buddying you to call this out, just because you happen to be the onus for swowl outing himself (if he is scum).
I'm not saying you don't have a right to make reads - and sure, those reads could be based off interactions that I'm having, that result in you scum reading the person with whom I'm interacting. But they way you've presented it definitely came across as low-key buddying.
Either way, I'm not voting you at this time (and don't plan to anytime soon). It's a low-key gut D1 read. It pinged me, and there's definitely more than one post there to support that suspicion - but I don't think it's anywhere near as scummy as the things that Chairs have done.
Speaking of which, you all should join me on Chairs.
Interact with your partner, vote town, I don't know who's writing the scum textbook but they need to include this there.
I mean really, Galzria hasn't talked to chairs
once (feel free to correct me I'm most likely wrong) whereas he's spent almost the entire day going back and forth with Swowl and Robz.
Chairs is by far the scummiest player. See: Fake reaction to early voting MiX; Fake indignation over fluff posts & vote for Pops; Bad wagoning on Swowl.
How...how does Galzria know it's
fake? Also why quote this when you can expand on the topic if you want chairs exiled?
Tentative vote: Joth. A number of posts in the last 36 hours or so have pinged me. There’s been an almost... flippancy about his posts that don’t feel like they are genuinely townie.
Debating my feelings towards MiX/Robz/Swowl/LaLight right now. Also way, way, way under the Radar is Space.
This is either townie, or Galzria has decided he should bus for the rest of this game. I can't decide which is true.
I don't believe MiX is scum, and I think we should be exiling Joth instead.
I definitely didn't find Joth as scummy as MiX in my re-read just now.
Do you feel sure that scum!Joth would go after MiX as much as he did for the failed Chairs-hammer, even though MiX was already heavily scumreading Joth?
I do. Consider what could have happened when the Chairs exile didn't go through. People were moving their votes, re-evaluating, etc. From scum!Joth's position, MiX not hammering is an easy sell argument that lets Joth try to prevent the "next up" wagon from landing on him or a scum partner.
Now, in fairness to Joth, his town!self would also push MiX extra hard here, and would see MiX's not hammering and the whole kerfuffle as confirmation bias.
I guess to more clearly answer your question, I think that Joth, as either alignment, does exactly what he did when Chair's exile didn't happen. In considering if he's scum, I don't think he would've done things any differently than he did.
Ugh. This sucks.
MiX is clearly town. Can't we do better?
Scummy. If MiX IS town the only people who know this clearly are scum. You are trying to get out in front of something you know to be a mis-exile?
This post is scummy. I agree with Didds. And while in a world of technicalities you are correct, the fact is town players can have very clear town reads on other players. There is nothing wrong with a player expressing a hard town read on somebody that is on the chopping block. Further, why would scum bother? To get credit for calling a town flip? When has a town (as a whole) gone "wow, that was super townie of them to be so against that town exile!"?
Interacts with partners like they're anyone else. Super townie.
Galz, would you move to chairs to avoid No Exile?
I would move Chairs to avoid a no-exile. I think he's more likely to be scum than MiX is. Joth is still the best choice.
As end of day is approaching, I'll throw this out there:
I think that both you, Robz, and Joth are scum. I read both Chairs and MiX as being mis-exiles waiting to happen.
However, yes, I would still exile Chairs over No-Exile.
Why would scum!Galz commit to scumreading Robz?
And this is the end of D1. Galzria can most definitely be scum...but why? I can sum up his D1 with "Robz is scum", that's not what scum wants to give an impression of. It's clear that with this momentum that Robz is going down D2, why secure it all the way from 4 town wagons, which was D1? What's scum's gameplan here?
I'm not doing more because I'm completely burned out.
Good night everyone.
PPE 3: Listen to Swowl, he knows or is scum, that's my conclusions. Which means, uh, I'm scum, because "I'm town" is the only thing I truly believe in anymore, and that's my current confidence in my reads.
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