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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1250 on: August 12, 2020, 10:53:39 pm »

ok, MiX can hang at X-1 overnight so we get his Dylan reread, in case he is town.

I felt like you were going to hammer me in my sleep, yeah. I guess you still will?

I know this is a bad reason but part of my desire to exile MiX is because if he *is* scum and wins, we'll never live it down! (We'll have had him at X-1 for 2 days (X-2 on days 2), a guilty result and still he beats us??)

Seriously, though, if I had a better vote I would be ok with switching. I'm willing to hear MiX's case on Dylan, but currently don't want to exile. Galz and swowl seem town. I need to read a little more on EFHW, because she was lurking a lot earlier, but she has been posting more recently.

I would consider faust too. He was on Robz early, so I could see him seeing this as a harmless vote before he went to bed, before the wagon on Robz really built up with Swowl and Galz votes.

Then again, I think I suspect Mix and faust *every* game; it's clearly something about there style of play, and so that makes me doubt those reads.

(this is why I said earlier I felt we were grasping at straws)

I don't think it's possible for me to win as scum with how things are going.

I'm on vacation now, which is why I am posting more.

I had a question for you scola - why did your hammer come at the -7 sec mark and not sooner?

Why didn't you post this 1 second earlier? Votes come when people are here. How is this relevant?


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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1251 on: August 12, 2020, 11:20:01 pm »

Vote: Dylan

If mix is scum he practically deserves to win for this Oscar nominee performance.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1252 on: August 12, 2020, 11:27:29 pm »

Vote: Dylan

If mix is scum he practically deserves to win for this Oscar nominee performance.

AAACK! This, this is what scares me... I mean the case he makes is interesting. It will at least make me reconsider Dylan significantly more than I was before...

BUT this is also perfect scum!mix play - it even feels like he's taunting us during it:

Reads. Not scumreads. Reads. Dylan wanted out of my wagon to push a misexile (if you think you can push me for a misexile, look at this game, lol, not even framer kills me), and quite literally anything worked. Or, you know, any wagon, which Robz conveniently starts for him.

Note, he seems to have written this *before* I wrote:
I know this is a bad reason but part of my desire to exile MiX is because if he *is* scum and wins, we'll never live it down! (We'll have had him at X-1 for 2 days (X-2 on days 2), a guilty result and still he beats us??)

But it still fits.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1253 on: August 12, 2020, 11:34:52 pm »

Vote: Dylan

If mix is scum he practically deserves to win for this Oscar nominee performance.

Disagree - I will never forget the first SK!MiX game. I still don't want to lynch him right now. But it is completely within his wheel house to town the eff out of it when needed.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1254 on: August 12, 2020, 11:36:17 pm »

Here we are D3, and MiX is going to escape exile yet again*... Sigh. MiX, you better be town! :)

* I'm going to move away from MiX for now, but I'm willing to come back. scum!Mix CANNOT win this game!

I'm still not convinced on Dylan - while it's a good case, I really don't see scum!Dylan hammering Robz there. I mean, maybe? But it still feels like the fatal flaw to the case.

So I think if I'm going for someone on the Robz wagon, I prefer:

Vote: faust
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1255 on: August 12, 2020, 11:37:58 pm »

Here we are D3, and MiX is going to escape exile yet again*... Sigh. MiX, you better be town! :)

* I'm going to move away from MiX for now, but I'm willing to come back. scum!Mix CANNOT win this game!

I'm still not convinced on Dylan - while it's a good case, I really don't see scum!Dylan hammering Robz there. I mean, maybe? But it still feels like the fatal flaw to the case.

So I think if I'm going for someone on the Robz wagon, I prefer:

Vote: faust

fun. care to elaborate?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1256 on: August 12, 2020, 11:52:55 pm »

Alright, we'll make this really simple:

Dylan, are you Scarlet Witch?

This is the only point of credence with which I've been giving Dylan's hammer of Robz. While it's true that we CAN have two of the same PR in the game, we already had Groot (2) and Iron Man (2) known. If Dylan was/is Scarlet Witch, I can see how, on the back of Chairs IM claim, he quickly and decisively disbelieved Robz claim.

I do not ask for nor want a DIFFERENT player to claim AM or SW here. If Dylan is SW, he can claim. If he's not, then the value of his hammer from a town perspective goes way, way down - and MiX's argument for scum!Dylan goes way, way up.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1257 on: August 13, 2020, 12:05:52 am »

Alright, we'll make this really simple:

Dylan, are you Scarlet Witch?

This is the only point of credence with which I've been giving Dylan's hammer of Robz. While it's true that we CAN have two of the same PR in the game, we already had Groot (2) and Iron Man (2) known. If Dylan was/is Scarlet Witch, I can see how, on the back of Chairs IM claim, he quickly and decisively disbelieved Robz claim.

I do not ask for nor want a DIFFERENT player to claim AM or SW here. If Dylan is SW, he can claim. If he's not, then the value of his hammer from a town perspective goes way, way down - and MiX's argument for scum!Dylan goes way, way up.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1258 on: August 13, 2020, 12:08:43 am »

MiX, you took everything from me (my secrecy at least).
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1259 on: August 13, 2020, 12:10:59 am »

So, now that I've claimed, another point for scum!MiX: his reads are never this completely terrible. He's usually overconfident and scumreads at least a couple townies, but I don't remember him ever being this far off on everyone.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1260 on: August 13, 2020, 12:12:51 am »

I am ant man

Vote: Dylan
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1261 on: August 13, 2020, 12:14:06 am »

Vote: swowl
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1262 on: August 13, 2020, 12:14:20 am »

Thatís an auto win, yeah? Canít be both? vote: Dylan
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1263 on: August 13, 2020, 12:14:55 am »

I have re ran the math because I could not believe that Dylan would mess that up?

but yeah....

skum gets -3 from Town

We have for sure 5 points on Skum.

Town has 8.

We have 7 points claimed plus me.

Game.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1264 on: August 13, 2020, 12:15:59 am »

I have re ran the math because I could not believe that Dylan would mess that up?

but yeah....

skum gets -3 from Town

We have for sure 5 points on Skum.

Town has 8.

We have 7 points claimed plus me.

Game.

I'm wondering if there was a mod error, because I was just rechecking the math too...

Mod, can you confirm that there was no error in setup?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1265 on: August 13, 2020, 12:17:19 am »

Like, I was so sure you were town, but you are either making a huge mistake blowing it in the 1 v 1, because I don't think this would be a scum win if I'm lynched first. So either mail-mi or you messed up.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1266 on: August 13, 2020, 12:18:47 am »

Like, I was so sure you were town, but you are either making a huge mistake blowing it in the 1 v 1, because I don't think this would be a scum win if I'm lynched first. So either mail-mi or you messed up.

well i will tell you what. If everyone wants to wait for the mod response, get that it is not an issue, and then lynch me... I am totally fine with that.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1267 on: August 13, 2020, 12:20:18 am »

Woah! I go away for a little to watch Colbert and all hell breaks lose.

Let's start with a quick

Unvote
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1268 on: August 13, 2020, 12:21:32 am »

lol like I don't even know what to think here.

I mean I obviously would not CC as skum. There are 3 lynches to be had, that is just throwing the game. But then you would know that...

Is there an error for real?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1269 on: August 13, 2020, 12:22:10 am »

I have re ran the math because I could not believe that Dylan would mess that up?

but yeah....

skum gets -3 from Town

We have for sure 5 points on Skum.

Town has 8.

We have 7 points claimed plus me.

Game.

Yeah, I mean groot + strange + iron man (verified by vig shot, right? no way that's a lie?) + scarlet is 8. I've checked that repeatedly, and no way I hammer Robz that confidently as either alignment if I didn't know that math. So either town won or the game is probably forfeit because of a mistake, because confirming there was a mistake would give town 3 ICs.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1270 on: August 13, 2020, 12:22:26 am »

Woah! I go away for a little to watch Colbert and all hell breaks lose.

Let's start with a quick

Unvote

well I mean just vote me or dylan though. town wins or game is washed. no reason to beat around.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1271 on: August 13, 2020, 12:23:11 am »

lol like I don't even know what to think here.

I mean I obviously would not CC as skum. There are 3 lynches to be had, that is just throwing the game. But then you would know that...

Is there an error for real?

Like it has to be. Since scum can't win a 1v1 here, I'm even willing to let myself be the first one hammered to prove I was telling the truth if there was no mistake, but there had to be if you are really town.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1272 on: August 13, 2020, 12:23:29 am »

I have re ran the math because I could not believe that Dylan would mess that up?

but yeah....

skum gets -3 from Town

We have for sure 5 points on Skum.

Town has 8.

We have 7 points claimed plus me.

Game.

Yeah, I mean groot + strange + iron man (verified by vig shot, right? no way that's a lie?) + scarlet is 8. I've checked that repeatedly, and no way I hammer Robz that confidently as either alignment if I didn't know that math. So either town won or the game is probably forfeit because of a mistake, because confirming there was a mistake would give town 3 ICs.

ppe 2

I mean your actions don't actually matter at this point. Either town wins today, town wins tomorrow, or the game is washed.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1273 on: August 13, 2020, 12:25:26 am »

Woah! I go away for a little to watch Colbert and all hell breaks lose.

Let's start with a quick

Unvote

well I mean just vote me or dylan though. town wins or game is washed. no reason to beat around.

I hear ya, but wtf?? I mean if I have to pick one? I guess
Vote: Dylan
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1274 on: August 13, 2020, 12:26:04 am »

I have re ran the math because I could not believe that Dylan would mess that up?

but yeah....

skum gets -3 from Town

We have for sure 5 points on Skum.

Town has 8.

We have 7 points claimed plus me.

Game.

Yeah, I mean groot + strange + iron man (verified by vig shot, right? no way that's a lie?) + scarlet is 8. I've checked that repeatedly, and no way I hammer Robz that confidently as either alignment if I didn't know that math. So either town won or the game is probably forfeit because of a mistake, because confirming there was a mistake would give town 3 ICs.

ppe 2

I mean your actions don't actually matter at this point. Either town wins today, town wins tomorrow, or the game is washed.

Yeah I know. I'm just telling you why I think there was a mistake if you aren't scum, because this isn't a mistake I would have made. At lylo, yeah I fake claim it if I'm scum, but not when it's just a straight up loss. And this is why I think there was a mod error, because I don't think you would do it either, especially with a cc like that.
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