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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #1075 on: August 08, 2020, 12:31:01 am »

I mean, Iím here, but thereís not much for me to say & Iím camping so...
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #1076 on: August 08, 2020, 12:34:28 am »

Yeah I guess so. Looking at how little conversation there has been post X-1 and claim, I probably would have had to hammer either way since it seems like there wasnít much chance of moving somewhere else anyway

True.

I'm also reading Robz lack of posting post hammer as a good sign (since I'd at least expect a N1 report on who he role stopped, otherwise).
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Night 0)
« Reply #1077 on: August 08, 2020, 01:09:57 am »

The Avengers gathered around chairs, who declared "I am Iron Man."

"Well we can't exile Iron Man!" one Avenger said, then turned to Robz.

Vote Count 2.FINAL


MiX (2): Isis, SpaceAnemone
Robz888 (6): faust, Swowl, Galzria, EFHW, scolapasta, Dylan32
Swowl (3): MiX, chairs, Robz888
 
Not Voting (0):

With 11 alive it took 6 to exile.

Robz888 has been killed! He was Ultron!

Because of weekend and VLAs, the Night Action deadline will be extended to 10:00am FT on Monday, August 10. Night will end sometime after that and before 10:00pm that day.

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« Last Edit: August 08, 2020, 09:39:21 am by mail-mi »
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #1078 on: August 10, 2020, 10:45:07 am »

The Avengers awoke to find a grueling sight... but not one that was entirely unwanted.

Isis was killed during the night! She was Dr. Strange!

SpaceAnemone was killed during the night! They were Thanos!


Vote Count 3.0
 
Not Voting (8): faust, Swowl, Galzria, EFHW, scolapasta, Dylan32, MiX, chairs

With 8 alive it takes 5 to exile.

Day 2 starts now and ends at 10:45AM FT on Monday, August 17th. Thread unlocked!
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1079 on: August 10, 2020, 10:49:17 am »

Nice shot Chairs.

Time to read back, see if Isis dropped any hints D2.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1080 on: August 10, 2020, 10:59:02 am »

Mysterio is the last scum, making his PR useless now that Dr. Strange is gone.

Weíre at 7 of 8 flipped/claimed points, but given Robzí attempt to fakeclaim, our last PR is pretty clearly Scarlet Witch. Her Rolestopper doesnít impact factional kill though, so her PR is essentially useless too.

She could claim here, giving us a game that is:

2 IC
5 VT
1 Scum

But I donít really see the point. Better to wait and see if a wagon forms around her at some point to generate additional data on finding the last scum - plus, not claiming increases the likelihood of being around a little later and having an IC on a latter day (assuming we donít win today).

Thoughts?

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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1081 on: August 10, 2020, 11:02:14 am »

Oh I just sort of expected to be vigged.

Good job town PRs!

Space was my top townread. Figures.

We don't need more ICs. We're winning by a lot.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1082 on: August 10, 2020, 11:07:17 am »

This makes me happy. Now I'll be off to go look for the final scum.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1083 on: August 10, 2020, 11:11:03 am »

This makes me happy. Now I'll be off to go look for the final scum.

Well, you're town. Thank you for being town.

Did anyone reread Robz?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1084 on: August 10, 2020, 11:11:51 am »

MiX is the last unknown player off Robz wagon. Going to check and see how Space/Robz felt about him D1/D2 - Scum mightíve killed Isis over Chairs in the hopes of setting up a MiX misexile today (has Chairs not shot Space, MiX would almost certainly be exiled before her).

Although the Robz exile couldíve been 100% Town driven. Thatís just so rare, especially early game.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1085 on: August 10, 2020, 11:16:21 am »

It's very likely scum rolecopped Isis, or realized that having Thanos alive means chairs is useless, as his vig goes through regardless.

I'm not sure it's possible I'm scum anymore.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1086 on: August 10, 2020, 11:18:51 am »

This makes me happy. Now I'll be off to go look for the final scum.

Well, you're town. Thank you for being town.

Did anyone reread Robz?

Faust isnít clearly town, but heís more town than at least two other people, so heís a final day problem at worst.

Also, at some point (neither today nor tomorrow) we should No Exile to bring us to odd numbers.

Towniest of town:

Chairs
Dylan
Scola
(Me!)

Left to do full interaction rereads:

Swowl (Robz strong push means probably town)
Faust
MiX
EFHW

óóó

Letís get an early day vote down for funsies.

Vote: EFHW


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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1087 on: August 10, 2020, 11:20:01 am »

It's very likely scum rolecopped Isis, or realized that having Thanos alive means chairs is useless, as his vig goes through regardless.

I'm not sure it's possible I'm scum anymore.

Itís entirely possible.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1088 on: August 10, 2020, 11:20:04 am »

I just reread bits of D2 and like... Isis had a scum result on MiX.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1089 on: August 10, 2020, 11:20:48 am »

I just reread bits of D2 and like... Isis had a scum result on MiX.

Vote: MiX

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1090 on: August 10, 2020, 11:24:49 am »

There's also a bit where Space posts intent to hammer on MiX and MiX claim VT and then Space doesn't follow through, which quite looks like something that could have been engineered with daychat.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1091 on: August 10, 2020, 12:17:06 pm »

There's also a bit where Space posts intent to hammer on MiX and MiX claim VT and then Space doesn't follow through, which quite looks like something that could have been engineered with daychat.

But why would it? I'm sure I also daychatted a way to make Galzria back off or something?

I'm sure we can find a bunch of town with Space and Robz ISOs. I'll get working on those, although you should probably completely throw away any conclusions, I've been completely wrong this game so far.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1092 on: August 10, 2020, 12:19:18 pm »

First off, Nice shot chairs! Now let's get this done!

Every game, I'm inclined to vote MiX, I'm sure I'm not the only one. I'm not sure that's where my vote is any more today.

MiX has been so off this game, we could ask him for his towniest read and then exile that person! :P

I can see the reasoning behind:

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1093 on: August 10, 2020, 12:19:39 pm »

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1094 on: August 10, 2020, 12:23:51 pm »

Mysterio is the last scum, making his PR useless now that Dr. Strange is gone.

Weíre at 7 of 8 flipped/claimed points, but given Robzí attempt to fakeclaim, our last PR is pretty clearly Scarlet Witch. Her Rolestopper doesnít impact factional kill though, so her PR is essentially useless too.

She could claim here, giving us a game that is:

2 IC
5 VT
1 Scum

But I donít really see the point. Better to wait and see if a wagon forms around her at some point to generate additional data on finding the last scum - plus, not claiming increases the likelihood of being around a little later and having an IC on a latter day (assuming we donít win today).

Thoughts?

Not sure I agree with the logic that last PR is Scarlet Witch, could also be Antman. Why would Robz specific claim matter here?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1095 on: August 10, 2020, 12:26:54 pm »

I hate JOATs but I love vigging, mostly because somehow I have what is I think the best record for vig shots on the forum.

I'm kind of at a loss on the last scum though, I didn't think too hard about it last night because I was expecting to die.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1096 on: August 10, 2020, 12:31:00 pm »

Mysterio is the last scum, making his PR useless now that Dr. Strange is gone.

Weíre at 7 of 8 flipped/claimed points, but given Robzí attempt to fakeclaim, our last PR is pretty clearly Scarlet Witch. Her Rolestopper doesnít impact factional kill though, so her PR is essentially useless too.

She could claim here, giving us a game that is:

2 IC
5 VT
1 Scum

But I donít really see the point. Better to wait and see if a wagon forms around her at some point to generate additional data on finding the last scum - plus, not claiming increases the likelihood of being around a little later and having an IC on a latter day (assuming we donít win today).

Thoughts?

Not sure I agree with the logic that last PR is Scarlet Witch, could also be Antman. Why would Robz specific claim matter here?

Because scum know what PRís are in the game.

Scum knew Chairs was telling the truth, and had Grootís flip. Iím inclined to agree with MiX that they probably Role Copped Isis N1 and planned to kill her last night. That meant Robz could only claim a 1 Point PR. Seems more likely to try and draw out a CC than not - although I guess at this point it wouldíve been obvious to Ant that Robz was lying. Still, I donít know - just feels like itís more likely for Robz to pick the PR that exists than the one that doesnít.

Either way, I donít think the remaining PR should claim, so itís moot.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1097 on: August 10, 2020, 12:43:42 pm »

Because scum know what PRís are in the game.

Scum knew Chairs was telling the truth, and had Grootís flip. Iím inclined to agree with MiX that they probably Role Copped Isis N1 and planned to kill her last night. That meant Robz could only claim a 1 Point PR. Seems more likely to try and draw out a CC than not - although I guess at this point it wouldíve been obvious to Ant that Robz was lying. Still, I donít know - just feels like itís more likely for Robz to pick the PR that exists than the one that doesnít.

Either way, I donít think the remaining PR should claim, so itís moot.
Not sure what you are saying, why would there be a counterclaim with Scarlet Witch but not with Antman? There can be multiples of the same role...
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« Reply #1098 on: August 10, 2020, 12:47:24 pm »

Because scum know what PRís are in the game.

Scum knew Chairs was telling the truth, and had Grootís flip. Iím inclined to agree with MiX that they probably Role Copped Isis N1 and planned to kill her last night. That meant Robz could only claim a 1 Point PR. Seems more likely to try and draw out a CC than not - although I guess at this point it wouldíve been obvious to Ant that Robz was lying. Still, I donít know - just feels like itís more likely for Robz to pick the PR that exists than the one that doesnít.

Either way, I donít think the remaining PR should claim, so itís moot.
Not sure what you are saying, why would there be a counterclaim with Scarlet Witch but not with Antman? There can be multiples of the same role...

Right, this is what I was thinking. Well, sort of, I mean I think either could CC if that's what Robz was going for. (at this point the multiples argument is no longer relevant, I think)

All said, I agree no reason for PR to claim right now, regardless of what they are.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« Reply #1099 on: August 10, 2020, 01:04:31 pm »

I can see the reasoning behind:

Vote; EFHW
I can't, can you enlighten me?
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