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Author Topic: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (GAME OVER)  (Read 23863 times)

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #975 on: August 07, 2020, 06:34:16 am »

Everyone prefers chairs to Galz, so let's do it!

Vote: chairs
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #976 on: August 07, 2020, 06:36:28 am »

Everyone prefers chairs to Galz, so let's do it!

Vote: chairs

When you put it like that it seems easy.

Why not Isis?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #977 on: August 07, 2020, 06:54:12 am »

Everyone prefers chairs to Galz, so let's do it!

Vote: chairs

When you put it like that it seems easy.

Why not Isis?
When I read the thread upon replacing in, Isis was always saying what I thought. Not sure that makes her town, but I kind of feel like keeping her around for that.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #978 on: August 07, 2020, 11:23:24 am »

I am definitely gun shy about another last minute (second!) exile. So time to hop on a wagon...

Vote: chairs

(X-1)
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Night 0)
« Reply #979 on: August 07, 2020, 11:40:28 am »

Vote Count 2.4

Isis (1): MiX
chairs (5): Swowl, SpaceAnemone, Galzria, faust, scolapasta {X-1}
Galzria (3): Robz888, Dylan32, EFHW
MiX (1): Isis
EFHW (1): chairs
 
Not Voting (0):

With 11 alive it takes 6 to exile.

Day 2 lasts until 12:30AM FT on Saturday, August 8th, 2020 - that's in ~ 12 hours.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #980 on: August 07, 2020, 11:43:54 am »

Ugh.

I'm iron man.

Isis investigates as Town.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #981 on: August 07, 2020, 11:52:21 am »

Unvote
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #982 on: August 07, 2020, 11:53:15 am »

Unvote

OK, got the unvote out of the way, now time to think things through...
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #983 on: August 07, 2020, 12:00:33 pm »

Vote: scola
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #984 on: August 07, 2020, 12:03:59 pm »

Uh, scola is incredibly townie for unvoting there. Unless chairs and scola are both scum and planned the X-1 and the claim, which does not seem likely.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #985 on: August 07, 2020, 12:04:25 pm »

Ugh.

I'm iron man.

Isis investigates as Town.

Why no claim yesterday when you were at X-1?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #986 on: August 07, 2020, 12:05:33 pm »

Just skimmed chairs' statements about Isis on Day 2 and they do reflect an innocent cop result on Isis. Makes this at least somewhat credible.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #987 on: August 07, 2020, 12:08:45 pm »

Uh, scola is incredibly townie for unvoting there. Unless chairs and scola are both scum and planned the X-1 and the claim, which does not seem likely.

What? Of course scola unvotes as any alignment.

Unvote, idk anymore.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #988 on: August 07, 2020, 12:11:14 pm »

Uh, scola is incredibly townie for unvoting there. Unless chairs and scola are both scum and planned the X-1 and the claim, which does not seem likely.

What? Of course scola unvotes as any alignment.

Unvote, idk anymore.

Why would scum bother unvoting there?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #989 on: August 07, 2020, 12:13:37 pm »

Uh, scola is incredibly townie for unvoting there. Unless chairs and scola are both scum and planned the X-1 and the claim, which does not seem likely.

What? Of course scola unvotes as any alignment.

Unvote, idk anymore.

Why would scum bother unvoting there?

What does that even mean? Scola unvotes because town!scola unvotes. I don't understand what your question is.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #990 on: August 07, 2020, 12:17:11 pm »

Vote: scola

Not really sure where this is coming from.

Anyway, three cases to consider:

1. Chairs is Ironman - possible (even likely?)
2. Chairs is scum and claiming to save self - possible
3. Chairs is town, but claiming false role - seems quite unlikely.

Not sure how to decide between 1 and 2. We don't have the usefulness of counter claims, since we can have duplicates. We just have total # - if true, we've know seen 4 of our 8 points, leaving 4 more. i.e. no way to definitively disprove - yet.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #991 on: August 07, 2020, 12:18:37 pm »

Yeah ok so I was just wrong for this entire game and I completely destroyed D1 and D2, causing a bunch of people to claim and a lot of misexiles while scum have gotten zero scrutiny.

There's 3 scum in (scola, space, galz, swan, robz, efhw, dylan, faust). Let's get hunting.

I won't be around for LyLo.

Willing to exile myself.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #992 on: August 07, 2020, 12:21:04 pm »

Uh, scola is incredibly townie for unvoting there. Unless chairs and scola are both scum and planned the X-1 and the claim, which does not seem likely.

What? Of course scola unvotes as any alignment.

Unvote, idk anymore.

Why would scum bother unvoting there?

What does that even mean? Scola unvotes because town!scola unvotes. I don't understand what your question is.

Well, okay, I see what you mean. My thinking is scum!scola doesn't have much incentive to unvote there because if somehow town!chairs got exiled at that point it would look bad for the hammer-er, not scola.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #993 on: August 07, 2020, 12:21:27 pm »

Yeah ok so I was just wrong for this entire game and I completely destroyed D1 and D2, causing a bunch of people to claim and a lot of misexiles while scum have gotten zero scrutiny.

There's 3 scum in (scola, space, galz, swan, robz, efhw, dylan, faust). Let's get hunting.

I won't be around for LyLo.

Willing to exile myself.

Join the Galz wagon!
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #994 on: August 07, 2020, 12:21:29 pm »

Uh, scola is incredibly townie for unvoting there. Unless chairs and scola are both scum and planned the X-1 and the claim, which does not seem likely.

What? Of course scola unvotes as any alignment.

Unvote, idk anymore.

Why would scum bother unvoting there?

What does that even mean? Scola unvotes because town!scola unvotes. I don't understand what your question is.

This. What advantage does scum!scola ever get from NOT unvoting? Hope Town comes in and accidentally hammers? Please.

Unvote

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Placeholder: Vote: Robz while I think things through.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #995 on: August 07, 2020, 02:35:53 pm »

Ugh.

I'm iron man.

Isis investigates as Town.

The fact you didn't spell it out as "I am Iron Man" makes me a little sad.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #996 on: August 07, 2020, 03:56:41 pm »

This is unbelievable
The entirety of the 3 card pool MiX narrowed d1 onto with bullish confidence has been confirmed to be town (excepting the outside chance of a chairs fakeclaim, which is unlikely because his role is confirmable, any genuine vigilantes/IronMen should NOT claim -or- kill and chairs should be forced to perform his vig action night to confirm himself town).
In spite of this, no one is voting MiX
Even MiX is acknowledging MiX is the most sensible exile.  Shockingly the threshhold for what it takes for people to want to exile MiX is so high that the point where MiX thinks MiX deserves to be exiled is under it.

Vote: MiX
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #997 on: August 07, 2020, 04:06:26 pm »

This is unbelievable
The entirety of the 3 card pool MiX narrowed d1 onto with bullish confidence has been confirmed to be town (excepting the outside chance of a chairs fakeclaim, which is unlikely because his role is confirmable, any genuine vigilantes/IronMen should NOT claim -or- kill and chairs should be forced to perform his vig action night to confirm himself town).
In spite of this, no one is voting MiX
Even MiX is acknowledging MiX is the most sensible exile.  Shockingly the threshhold for what it takes for people to want to exile MiX is so high that the point where MiX thinks MiX deserves to be exiled is under it.

Vote: MiX

Oh, everyone wants to exile me. I would've been dayvigged at this point. The question is, do you want to exile me, or scum? And then the reason I'm alive is obvious.

You can vote me, you can exile me, and you can call it correct, and it just might be. But we should be exiling scum, right? There's a pool of 8 players, 3 are scum. That's who we should be looking at.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #998 on: August 07, 2020, 04:18:35 pm »

Vote: Swowl
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« Reply #999 on: August 07, 2020, 04:23:04 pm »

Vote: Robz as well, they're both scum. This is clear once you see Robz's terrible case on Swowl from D1.

For anyone voting me right now, I would like to point out all the times I protected chairs, defended chairs and literally did not hammer a X-1 PR before he claimed. Then come back to me.

Obviously town needs to do a massive reread. When faust gets replaced in and votes for a PR, you know the day's completely scum controlled.
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