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Author Topic: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (GAME OVER)  (Read 190547 times)

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #650 on: July 29, 2020, 11:20:36 am »

Vote: Joth in the interest of consolidation

I’ve got some work, but should be around-ish

I honestly 100% do not understand how you are finding me scummier than MiX right now.

Because you are. Is it impossible to find you scummier than me?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #651 on: July 29, 2020, 11:24:04 am »

Vote: Joth in the interest of consolidation

I’ve got some work, but should be around-ish

I honestly 100% do not understand how you are finding me scummier than MiX right now.

Because you are. Is it impossible to find you scummier than me?

No, but I expect better from Didds in particular.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #652 on: July 29, 2020, 11:30:56 am »

Vote: mix

That's X-1 I think?

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #653 on: July 29, 2020, 11:34:21 am »

Vote: mix

That's X-1 I think?

We're back, ladies and gentlemen!

What's your read on me?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #654 on: July 29, 2020, 11:39:59 am »

MiX, you've got to move your vote. at least make it so that EFHW or Space or whomever has a choice
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #655 on: July 29, 2020, 11:45:04 am »

Space, Isis is NOT an outsider. Isis (as pops) moderated the very first mafia game on this forum, in fact.

Isis also plays mostly elsewhere, so her meta and playstyle is significantly different.

Yes, I mean she's an outsider in the sense of not being very well aware of the way people behave here nowadays, even if she was here in the early days. I feel like most people mellow after a few games, and consider the people they're playing with here as people and as friends. I don't feel like she has a particularly personal connection with any of us yet. Compare that to how MiX and Didds are now, compared to how much everyone just bristled badly at the way MiX was in his first game here.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #656 on: July 29, 2020, 11:47:38 am »

I think that is a really good point, Space
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #657 on: July 29, 2020, 11:49:03 am »

MiX, you've got to move your vote. at least make it so that EFHW or Space or whomever has a choice

All other wagons are at 2 votes, why should I move?

Vote: joth, whatever.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #658 on: July 29, 2020, 11:50:35 am »

My reread of Joth is mixed. There are several posts that I just flat-out disagree with that I would have responded to at the time but there was too much else to catch up with in my available playing time. He's consistently pushed MiX as scum, while doing a u-turn on Swowl quite hard around #440-#450. I feel like Swowl has been consistently townie, so the people scumreading him confuse me. Joth also goes after MiX for the neglected hammer opportunity, which was definitely in tune with what I was thinking about MiX after all his certainty of the scumteam.

Anyway, not only is MiX currently the leading wagon, he also seems the scummier of the {Joth,MiX} pair too.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #659 on: July 29, 2020, 11:52:27 am »

I have around 3 minutes in thread.

I'm a VT.

I cannot be exiled as scum this early. I would've played defensively.

Your move, town.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #660 on: July 29, 2020, 11:53:53 am »

I guess what I mean is intent to hammer, assuming my VC is right.

PPE: 1. Huh.. anyone townie online and have comments on that claim?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #661 on: July 29, 2020, 11:55:13 am »

I don't believe MiX is scum, and I think we should be exiling Joth instead.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #662 on: July 29, 2020, 11:55:18 am »

It seems correct.

Who here would've hammered chairs, where they in my situation?

The answer is: "maybe, if I'm scum".
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #663 on: July 29, 2020, 12:00:06 pm »

I'm here. While I do think scum claims a PR here generally, MiX failing to do so isn't quite so town indicative, given the reaction to chairs not claiming a PR.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #664 on: July 29, 2020, 12:00:59 pm »

The claim gives me some pause, but I like MiX better than me here. I'd also move to chairs.

The fact is, second-guessing my scumread on MiX is not uncommon for me, but that doesn't make it wrong, and if we let him go now and it turns out he is scum... that's gonna be a real pain. And with a framer floating around we can't even trust an investigative result. So let's just do the thing.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #665 on: July 29, 2020, 12:02:05 pm »

I don't believe MiX is scum, and I think we should be exiling Joth instead.

I definitely didn't find Joth as scummy as MiX in my re-read just now.

Do you feel sure that scum!Joth would go after MiX as much as he did for the failed Chairs-hammer, even though MiX was already heavily scumreading Joth?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Night 0)
« Reply #666 on: July 29, 2020, 12:04:21 pm »

Vote Count 1.5

Isis (1): EFHW
jotheonah (4): Swowl, Galzria, WestCoastDidds, MiX
MiX (6): Dylan32, LaLight, Robz888, scolapasta, jotheonah, chairs {X-1}
chairs (2): SpaceAnemone, Isis

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 1 lasts until 12:30PM FT on Wednesday, July 29th, 2020. That is in 26 minutes.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #667 on: July 29, 2020, 12:11:05 pm »

Here now, meeting ran a little long, worried I won't have much time to catch up.

So MiX has claimed VT. Hmmm... I get the reasons to doubt, but here's where WIFOM always gets to me; i.e.
• scum would claim a role here
• so VT claim means not scum
• so VT claim is good claim for scum...
etc.

I just didn't get a sense of joth being scum, frankly. If these are the two wagons, I still prefer MiX for un-MiX like play.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #668 on: July 29, 2020, 12:11:37 pm »

Ugh. This sucks.

MiX is clearly town. Can't we do better?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #669 on: July 29, 2020, 12:12:32 pm »

Here now, meeting ran a little long, worried I won't have much time to catch up.

So MiX has claimed VT. Hmmm... I get the reasons to doubt, but here's where WIFOM always gets to me; i.e.
• scum would claim a role here
• so VT claim means not scum
• so VT claim is good claim for scum...
etc.

I just didn't get a sense of joth being scum, frankly. If these are the two wagons, I still prefer MiX for un-MiX like play.

Nah, I think scum claims a PR, at the very least in hopes of getting a counterclaim that will help direct their kills
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #670 on: July 29, 2020, 12:13:01 pm »

I could still go back to chairs. But not sure that happens in 20 minutes.

Didds, why do you think MiX is town?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #671 on: July 29, 2020, 12:13:07 pm »

Ugh. This sucks.

MiX is clearly town. Can't we do better?

Scummy. If MiX IS town the only people who know this clearly are scum. You are trying to get out in front of something you know to be a mis-exile?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #672 on: July 29, 2020, 12:13:56 pm »

Here now, meeting ran a little long, worried I won't have much time to catch up.

So MiX has claimed VT. Hmmm... I get the reasons to doubt, but here's where WIFOM always gets to me; i.e.
• scum would claim a role here
• so VT claim means not scum
• so VT claim is good claim for scum...
etc.

I just didn't get a sense of joth being scum, frankly. If these are the two wagons, I still prefer MiX for un-MiX like play.

Nah, I think scum claims a PR, at the very least in hopes of getting a counterclaim that will help direct their kills

Problem here is CC isn't rock solid, since there can be clone heroes.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #673 on: July 29, 2020, 12:14:06 pm »

MiX is active. I think we are doing ourselves a disservice to get rid of the active folks. 

If we have to choose between MiX and chairs, then Vote: Chairs

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #674 on: July 29, 2020, 12:14:36 pm »

Also, if Didds is not going to vote for MiX no matter what, I'm not sure we can even get a lynch.
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