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Author Topic: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (GAME OVER)  (Read 32065 times)

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #450 on: July 28, 2020, 02:04:49 pm »

Sorry, not Swowl. LaLight though.

Unvote because Swowl isn't pinging me on my reread.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #451 on: July 28, 2020, 02:06:04 pm »

I think itís far easier more likely for scum to hide behind the artifice of false indignation over the existence of off-topic fluff posts than it is for scum to continuously go through the effort of making them. Itís the easiest of ways to appear pro-Town without actually committing to anything game-relevant.

Iím happy with my Chairs vote right now.

Galzria is right here -- but it doesn't seem like we really followed up on that. Is chairs the best example of this?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #452 on: July 28, 2020, 02:11:11 pm »

Well, it seems like in the absence of folks uninterested or unable to scumhunt, that voting for the anti-town folks is a pretty good fall back.

This is both a wrong and scummy thing to say. Town should never normalize voting for someone for any reason other than "I think their name is more likely than not  to flip red". If we do, we give scum a free pass to participate in a misexile and not be held accountable for it.

I think we should be looking at everyone who jumped on the "distracting fluff" is scummy argument, including Didds, Space, and Swowl.

You misunderstand me, I think. Iím never anti-fluff and in the post you cite Iím saying anti town is scummier than not.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #453 on: July 28, 2020, 02:11:44 pm »

I think itís far easier more likely for scum to hide behind the artifice of false indignation over the existence of off-topic fluff posts than it is for scum to continuously go through the effort of making them. Itís the easiest of ways to appear pro-Town without actually committing to anything game-relevant.

Iím happy with my Chairs vote right now.

Galzria is right here -- but it doesn't seem like we really followed up on that. Is chairs the best example of this?

I don't think the posters-of-fluff are particularly likely to be scummy, but I don't really think the mad-about-fluff people are necessarily scummy either. If that's the case against chairs I especially don't like it.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #454 on: July 28, 2020, 02:15:07 pm »

Well, it seems like in the absence of folks uninterested or unable to scumhunt, that voting for the anti-town folks is a pretty good fall back.

This is both a wrong and scummy thing to say. Town should never normalize voting for someone for any reason other than "I think their name is more likely than not  to flip red". If we do, we give scum a free pass to participate in a misexile and not be held accountable for it.

I think we should be looking at everyone who jumped on the "distracting fluff" is scummy argument, including Didds, Space, and Swowl.

You misunderstand me, I think. Iím never anti-fluff and in the post you cite Iím saying anti town is scummier than not.

I guess I did, and maybe still do.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #455 on: July 28, 2020, 02:18:41 pm »

Ok, I did a reread and I'm going with Vote: chairs

People have been voting for chairs all day, but not at the same time, so those votes have not added up to a chairs wagon.  As a result, basically no one has defended chairs.

As much as we like to point to partner defenses on day 1, it's much more likely that scum tries to avoid defending their partner on day 1, especially if they don't need it.

I think chairs and MiX are scum together and chairs is the obligatory actual scum on MiX's fake scum team. chairs' posts haven't struck me as particularly scummy but nor have they struck me as at all townie, and I trust the reads of several people who have voted chairs. So I think that's our best bet for today.

If you're voting for me and your name isn't MiX, I'm gonna want to know why and whether you actually think I'm scum or just good enough for a D1 exile.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #456 on: July 28, 2020, 02:26:21 pm »

Why is chairs scum? Because everyone scumreads him? That's a terrible case.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #457 on: July 28, 2020, 02:28:47 pm »

Why is chairs scum? Because everyone scumreads him? That's a terrible case.

Everyone scumreads him and no one's defended him, yet a wagon on him hasn't stuck. That's a great case.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #458 on: July 28, 2020, 02:29:22 pm »

The best way to defend your partner day 1 is just to ignore votes on them and make a lot of noise about voting for someone else.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Night 0)
« Reply #459 on: July 28, 2020, 02:36:08 pm »

Vote Count 1.3

Isis (2): EFHW, SpaceAnemone
Swowl (2): LaLight, Robz888,
jotheonah (4): MiX, chairs, WestCoastDidds, Swowl
LaLight (1): Dylan32
chairs (4): Galzria, scolapasta, Isis, jotheonah

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 1 lasts until 12:30PM FT on Wednesday, July 29th, 2020. That is in ~24 hours.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #460 on: July 28, 2020, 02:37:23 pm »

Vote: chairs
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #461 on: July 28, 2020, 02:39:45 pm »

Why is chairs scum? Because everyone scumreads him? That's a terrible case.

Everyone scumreads him and no one's defended him, yet a wagon on him hasn't stuck. That's a great case.

That's a mediocre case, but better than the one on me.

Vote: chairs

Who's scum: the person who's trying the least, or the person who's arguably trying the most?

The answer may surprise you.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #462 on: July 28, 2020, 02:43:49 pm »

MiX, why are you always saying things about someone's alignment as if your reads are always 100% correct, although you were proven wrong a number of times?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #463 on: July 28, 2020, 02:44:03 pm »

vote: chairs, X-1
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #464 on: July 28, 2020, 02:45:13 pm »

MiX, why are you always saying things about someone's alignment as if your reads are always 100% correct, although you were proven wrong a number of times?

Because I'm been correct and dismissed my own correct reads many more times.

vote: chairs, X-1

Chairs is anti-town town.

Damn. I guess I was wrong.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #465 on: July 28, 2020, 02:46:54 pm »

MiX, why are you always saying things about someone's alignment as if your reads are always 100% correct, although you were proven wrong a number of times?

Because I'm been correct and dismissed my own correct reads many more times.

yeah, but you work alone, you never work with town. You say things to discourage people for voting for other people without any argument whatsoever.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #466 on: July 28, 2020, 02:49:19 pm »

Town seems to scumread chairs and joth, right?

I'm doing my part.

You shouldn't vote or unvote based on anyone else other than yourself and the votee.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #467 on: July 28, 2020, 02:56:27 pm »

MiX aren't you scumreading chairs? Haven't you been saying that all game? Called him as part of the team?

Strange that you don't want to put down a vote now.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #468 on: July 28, 2020, 02:57:51 pm »

Chairs is by far the scummiest player. See: Fake reaction to early voting MiX; Fake indignation over fluff posts & vote for Pops; Bad wagoning on Swowl.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #469 on: July 28, 2020, 03:17:41 pm »

MiX aren't you scumreading chairs? Haven't you been saying that all game? Called him as part of the team?

Strange that you don't want to put down a vote now.

I would be literally hammering. I'd rather find out if you're scum.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #470 on: July 28, 2020, 03:26:31 pm »

MiX aren't you scumreading chairs? Haven't you been saying that all game? Called him as part of the team?

Strange that you don't want to put down a vote now.

I would be literally hammering. I'd rather find out if you're scum.

That does seem preferable to hammering your partner. Good luck with that!
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #471 on: July 28, 2020, 03:29:03 pm »

Good luck with that!

Yeah this is like all of your posts summarized.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #472 on: July 28, 2020, 04:05:25 pm »

Ooo, the claws come out. Finally.

I'm Town and I'm not changing my vote. Also, exile me if you must but don't expect me to claim or anything, I spent a few hours in the ER last night and so now I'm staying with family a few days while we see how much my new medicine jacks me up (gall stone, nothing "serious") but I don't have a phone charger so this is probably my last post of the Day.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #473 on: July 28, 2020, 04:18:04 pm »

Ok, I'm willing to hammer chairs, but MiX's reaction here to chair's wagon seems scummy, even if they aren't partners, like he's included chairs as part of his 100% scum team, but then on other occasions when someone else called chairs scummy, MiX questioned them on it. It's like he's listing chairs as a scumread but then hedges to A) avoid looking scummy if chairs flips green or B) avoid pushing a partner through to exile.

Vote: MiX
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #474 on: July 28, 2020, 04:33:09 pm »

Ok, I'm willing to hammer chairs, but MiX's reaction here to chair's wagon seems scummy, even if they aren't partners, like he's included chairs as part of his 100% scum team, but then on other occasions when someone else called chairs scummy, MiX questioned them on it. It's like he's listing chairs as a scumread but then hedges to A) avoid looking scummy if chairs flips green or B) avoid pushing a partner through to exile.

Vote: MiX

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