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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #300 on: July 24, 2020, 10:10:00 pm »

Who's scum now?

idk, maybe Dylan because reasons

Why are you town?

Please. Look at me.

Which of Swowl/Galzria do you scumread the most, any why?

Swowl because in retrospect my Galz case is pretty weak
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #301 on: July 24, 2020, 10:10:25 pm »

Joth, you should come back to the swowl wagon!

but MiX is so annoying!
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #302 on: July 24, 2020, 10:13:05 pm »

durnk ama

Hey, me too!

Time to start more quote walls.

Aren't you glad we got to meet up for beers before the end of travel?

Who do you think is scum?

What do you think about fluffyposting?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #303 on: July 24, 2020, 10:14:53 pm »

A million dollars isn't cool.

You know what's cool?

A vote for swowl.

(I might also be drinking.)
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #304 on: July 24, 2020, 10:15:40 pm »

Are we playing drunk mafia? Cause I can stay up all night and join you guys.

Or you guys can join me on joth! That sounds better for me and my sanity.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #305 on: July 24, 2020, 10:17:20 pm »

Are we playing drunk mafia? Cause I can stay up all night and join you guys.

Or you guys can join me on joth! That sounds better for me and my sanity.

I thought you didn't drink.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #306 on: July 24, 2020, 10:19:19 pm »

Are we playing drunk mafia? Cause I can stay up all night and join you guys.

Or you guys can join me on joth! That sounds better for me and my sanity.

I thought you didn't drink.

Staying up all night is my equivelent.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #307 on: July 24, 2020, 10:20:10 pm »

Random reads time.

Swowl and I rarely butt heads in games. I also feel like we’re rarely town together - but that’s mostly because he rolled scum 9 games in a row and I feel like I defy the odds on doing so. In any event, he’s not top of my list.

Robz is probably scum. Nothing about his posts suggests this directly, and he’s been super buddy-buddy towards me so it pains me to have this read (especially if he’s in fact town just generally agreeing with me)... but I’m always more suspicious of people agreeing with me than those that disagree with me. Call it Reverse OMGUS.

Pops... I just like her style. Could be scum, but it’s not the vibe I’m getting from her. There was a veiled reference made earlier that pinged me though ... need to do some research before making a conclusion on that.

Chairs is by far the scummiest player. See: Fake reaction to early voting MiX; Fake indignation over fluff posts & vote for Pops; Bad wagoning on Swowl.

EFHW is in this game?

Didds isn’t substance-engaged and it’s weird. But I’m not convinced it makes her scum. I have another reason for being suspicious here, but I’m waiting to see how it develops.

Oh! Dylan is very townie.

MiX is annoying. Probably town because every post he makes leaves me wanting him not to be.

Joth is Joth. Also probably town, but he’s hard for me to read.

Space is slightly scummy, but it’s so mild a lean that it’s probably just a bias I have on reading them.

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I think that leaves Scola & LaLight?

Both are pretty neutral for me. Nothing stands out from either. Scola is slightly more memorable in a townie way. LaLight I got nothing on.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #308 on: July 24, 2020, 10:29:44 pm »

the fact that pops, who brought forum mafia to f.ds in the first place approx. 1 million years ago, is in this game, along with Galz and Robz who played with me in the second ever game here, makes this whole game feel really throwbacky.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #309 on: July 24, 2020, 10:30:15 pm »

When did I buddy you???
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #310 on: July 24, 2020, 10:30:23 pm »

You being Galz.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #311 on: July 24, 2020, 10:34:12 pm »

durnk ama

Hey, me too!

Time to start more quote walls.

Aren't you glad we got to meet up for beers before the end of travel?

Who do you think is scum?

What do you think about fluffyposting?

Honestly yeah, really am! Things got crazy, fast. I’m glad we got to have a few beers first.

Reads, see my reads post (beat you to your question! Ha! 😁)

Fluff posting - I think I’ve been engaged on this topic? I think it’s just a thing some people do naturally. It’s incredibly NAI, and is very, very, VERY rarely (read: never) an actual scum tactic. However, it’s incredibly easy for scum to attack such posts as being “anti-Town” to appear more “pro-Town” themselves. And in the event that such attacks lead to mis-exile’s, there’s little to no culpability to be had as “well, they shouldn’t have been acting in an anti-Town fashion” is an easy defense.

All that is to say: Attacking fluff is a platform by which scum can vote for Town for non-game related reasons (literally), without having to defend having real reads.

Fluff is fluff. It exists. It makes people have personality and read less like robots. As long as it isn’t out of hand, it’s not that difficult to skim over. It’s much easier to skim fluff in a medium sized game than do a detailed D1 read in a large (18+ player) game.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #312 on: July 24, 2020, 10:35:34 pm »

When did I buddy you???

Lol iso yourself. You’re super agreeable towards me. Not saying I MIND though...
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #313 on: July 24, 2020, 10:44:58 pm »

When did I buddy you???

Lol iso yourself. You’re super agreeable towards me. Not saying I MIND though...

I mean, I haven't like attacked you. You haven't said all that much yet. But we're really defining buddying down if me not having gunned for you from the get-go is an example of buddying!

This sort of matters, since me buddying you is indeed something town!you would think is scummy behavior from me. Falsely claiming I'm buddying you is therefore definitely a line of approach that scum!you could use.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #314 on: July 24, 2020, 10:45:29 pm »

MiX gets sleep deprived drunk.

I’m fancy hotel drinking. It’s like home drinking only in a fancy hotel. A hotel in my town mind you, but not my same old house. (It’s my anniversary weekend). And I had cheese for dinner. Cheese is the BEST!

I’m the most town I’ve ever been, Galz. Like super duper awesome town.

I live for fluff. It’s my favorite and the way I find out cool stuff about you all. That being said, I don’t play hearthstone so I feel like the kid sitting on the lonely bench at the school dance when that’s going down. Luckily I can sit by Joth.

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #315 on: July 24, 2020, 10:48:04 pm »

what is the chance that this Robz-Galz thing is town v town? what's the chance that it's scum v scum. These are good questions to ask.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #316 on: July 24, 2020, 10:49:40 pm »

When did I buddy you???

Lol iso yourself. You’re super agreeable towards me. Not saying I MIND though...

I mean, I haven't like attacked you. You haven't said all that much yet. But we're really defining buddying down if me not having gunned for you from the get-go is an example of buddying!

This sort of matters, since me buddying you is indeed something town!you would think is scummy behavior from me. Falsely claiming I'm buddying you is therefore definitely a line of approach that scum!you could use.

I mean, I’m more than happy to pull the posts that stood out to me. Maybe you’ll disagree with the conclusion, but I feel like the assertion is more than fair.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #317 on: July 24, 2020, 10:52:08 pm »

When did I buddy you???

Lol iso yourself. You’re super agreeable towards me. Not saying I MIND though...

I mean, I haven't like attacked you. You haven't said all that much yet. But we're really defining buddying down if me not having gunned for you from the get-go is an example of buddying!

This sort of matters, since me buddying you is indeed something town!you would think is scummy behavior from me. Falsely claiming I'm buddying you is therefore definitely a line of approach that scum!you could use.

I mean, I’m more than happy to pull the posts that stood out to me. Maybe you’ll disagree with the conclusion, but I feel like the assertion is more than fair.

Show your work!
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #318 on: July 24, 2020, 10:55:53 pm »

what is the chance that this Robz-Galz thing is town v town? what's the chance that it's scum v scum. These are good questions to ask.

The setup and combination of questions is better than what MiX asked regarding Me & Swowl.

Generally speaking, I hate X vs Y questions. They’re setup questions that frame two people in a “one must be scum” light with no real, honest reasoning being it. Town players disagree and debate far more often than town vs scum do. It’s much more townie and reasonable to ask “What’s your read on X”, and “What’s your read on Y”. Asking “What do you think of X vs Y” is just scummy.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #319 on: July 24, 2020, 10:57:34 pm »

When did I buddy you???

Lol iso yourself. You’re super agreeable towards me. Not saying I MIND though...

I mean, I haven't like attacked you. You haven't said all that much yet. But we're really defining buddying down if me not having gunned for you from the get-go is an example of buddying!

This sort of matters, since me buddying you is indeed something town!you would think is scummy behavior from me. Falsely claiming I'm buddying you is therefore definitely a line of approach that scum!you could use.

I mean, I’m more than happy to pull the posts that stood out to me. Maybe you’ll disagree with the conclusion, but I feel like the assertion is more than fair.

Show your work!

Fine! Fine! Lemme grab my Highball and go get my computer. Quote searching is much easier there than on my phone.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #320 on: July 24, 2020, 10:57:42 pm »

what is the chance that this Robz-Galz thing is town v town? what's the chance that it's scum v scum. These are good questions to ask.

There is in fact a long history of scum!me trying to string town!Galz along with pleasantness, and Galz usually figures it out right around the point where it's not too late to kill me, but in fact too late to stop my scum faction. So this could be genuine jumpiness on his part, or it could be a ploy.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #321 on: July 24, 2020, 10:58:24 pm »

When did I buddy you???

Lol iso yourself. You’re super agreeable towards me. Not saying I MIND though...

I mean, I haven't like attacked you. You haven't said all that much yet. But we're really defining buddying down if me not having gunned for you from the get-go is an example of buddying!

This sort of matters, since me buddying you is indeed something town!you would think is scummy behavior from me. Falsely claiming I'm buddying you is therefore definitely a line of approach that scum!you could use.

I mean, I’m more than happy to pull the posts that stood out to me. Maybe you’ll disagree with the conclusion, but I feel like the assertion is more than fair.

Show your work!

Fine! Fine! Lemme grab my Highball and go get my computer. Quote searching is much easier there than on my phone.

I mean, you could also just concede you are offbase, and spare yourself the effort!
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #322 on: July 24, 2020, 10:59:27 pm »

When did I buddy you???

Lol iso yourself. You’re super agreeable towards me. Not saying I MIND though...

I mean, I haven't like attacked you. You haven't said all that much yet. But we're really defining buddying down if me not having gunned for you from the get-go is an example of buddying!

This sort of matters, since me buddying you is indeed something town!you would think is scummy behavior from me. Falsely claiming I'm buddying you is therefore definitely a line of approach that scum!you could use.

I mean, I’m more than happy to pull the posts that stood out to me. Maybe you’ll disagree with the conclusion, but I feel like the assertion is more than fair.

Show your work!

Fine! Fine! Lemme grab my Highball and go get my computer. Quote searching is much easier there than on my phone.

I mean, you could also just concede you are offbase, and spare yourself the effort!

Such concessions would mean I'm wrong - which I'm not!
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #323 on: July 24, 2020, 11:05:59 pm »

what is the chance that this Robz-Galz thing is town v town? what's the chance that it's scum v scum. These are good questions to ask.

The setup and combination of questions is better than what MiX asked regarding Me & Swowl.

Generally speaking, I hate X vs Y questions. They’re setup questions that frame two people in a “one must be scum” light with no real, honest reasoning being it. Town players disagree and debate far more often than town vs scum do. It’s much more townie and reasonable to ask “What’s your read on X”, and “What’s your read on Y”. Asking “What do you think of X vs Y” is just scummy.

I half agree. It's difficult but not impossible to tell scum vs town apart from town vs town. But it's very worthwhile to look for scum vs scum interactions (outside of multiball) since they're entirely manufactured.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #324 on: July 24, 2020, 11:09:06 pm »

So while I much on some popcorn and watch this Galz - Robz whatever it is...

Y'all have convinced me to retract my pops vote.

Unvote

It seems logical that scum would not actually fluff post without some other plan as it is so clearly anti-town that it's too easy a target (note to future scumapasta, remember to fluff post someday!). And pops has posted some actually content since.

The above is also ironic, because I am about to fluff post. But just one and only because I feel it is inclusive and well, sharing is caring:

Today was my birthday (observed). A friend came down for a socially distanced outdoor lunch, then tennis, then socially distanced (and masked) Opening Day watching, and lastly socially distanced outdoor dinner*, with two other friends. It was so nice to see friends in 3D!

* for joth and other Boston people: Blue Ribbon, yum!
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