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[WestCoastDidds]

So, when we were in the process of exiling faust, MiX was clear that it would be faust then LL.

If LL is scum, he had to have a plan to shift that focus. The Joth revelation does that.

This works, I think.

MiX, yams, where are the holes?

[mail-mi]

there is a point where getting towncred isn't necessary any more. scum does what scum does. I would rez joth, he would massacre and I would hope to lynch mail-mi or something.

No, I think WCD is onto something. If you get the towncred from not rezzing joth, then lynch me or scola, then rez joth tomorrow and get him to massacre everyone before he and you can be lynched, then scum has 50% and (probably) wins.

We also can't forget that you're the most likely of all of us to be 3rd party.

can you please answer, what is the point of me being 3rd party without killing actions?

3rd party as "needing to find all your powers" and not needing a kill to do that--in fact, having a kill would be an antithesis to that because it would speed up the game.

[mail-mi]

So, when we were in the process of exiling faust, MiX was clear that it would be faust then LL.

If LL is scum, he had to have a plan to shift that focus. The Joth revelation does that.

This works, I think.

MiX, yams, where are the holes?

There is one hole. town could quickhammer joth tomorrow if they get on before he does.

But that's reliant on the 3 town players logging in before joth does, and on them deciding to quicklynch joth. So the plan is still pretty solid.

[MiX]

Still thinking through LL

If his play was towncred... if yams gets exiled, assume no NK...The tomorrow it’s Joth, MiX, WCD, Scola, and LL.
Joth massacres himself, MiX, and me. That leaves Scola and LL. Scum wins.

If we all live, I can shoot LL and win.

[WestCoastDidds]

That’s if we exile yams?

[WestCoastDidds]

Still thinking through LL

If his play was towncred... if yams gets exiled, assume no NK...The tomorrow it’s Joth, MiX, WCD, Scola, and LL.
Joth massacres himself, MiX, and me. That leaves Scola and LL. Scum wins.

If we all live, I can shoot LL and win.

But it would be a race, right? Shoot LL before Joth massacres

[WestCoastDidds]

I think I have convinced myself that exiling LL is better than yams.

I’m willing to be convinced otherwise, though.

[scolapasta]

I still want to keep rereading, but I'm more likely to vote ll than yams.

[LaLight]

Vote: mail-mi then.

[MiX]

Still thinking through LL

If his play was towncred... if yams gets exiled, assume no NK...The tomorrow it’s Joth, MiX, WCD, Scola, and LL.
Joth massacres himself, MiX, and me. That leaves Scola and LL. Scum wins.

If we all live, I can shoot LL and win.

But it would be a race, right? Shoot LL before Joth massacres

Yeah, but most likely both go through.

[MiX]

there is a point where getting towncred isn't necessary any more. scum does what scum does. I would rez joth, he would massacre and I would hope to lynch mail-mi or something.

No, I think WCD is onto something. If you get the towncred from not rezzing joth, then lynch me or scola, then rez joth tomorrow and get him to massacre everyone before he and you can be lynched, then scum has 50% and (probably) wins.

We also can't forget that you're the most likely of all of us to be 3rd party.

can you please answer, what is the point of me being 3rd party without killing actions?

3rd party as "needing to find all your powers" and not needing a kill to do that--in fact, having a kill would be an antithesis to that because it would speed up the game.

If LL's a third-party, why did joth hammer himself?

Vote: mail-mi

[LaLight]

I have no idea what else to tell you, I am sorry.

[LaLight]

it might be that scola and mm are both scum and WCD naturally doesn't trust me in endgame and I can understand that.

[mail-mi]

there is a point where getting towncred isn't necessary any more. scum does what scum does. I would rez joth, he would massacre and I would hope to lynch mail-mi or something.

No, I think WCD is onto something. If you get the towncred from not rezzing joth, then lynch me or scola, then rez joth tomorrow and get him to massacre everyone before he and you can be lynched, then scum has 50% and (probably) wins.

We also can't forget that you're the most likely of all of us to be 3rd party.

can you please answer, what is the point of me being 3rd party without killing actions?

3rd party as "needing to find all your powers" and not needing a kill to do that--in fact, having a kill would be an antithesis to that because it would speed up the game.

If LL's a third-party, why did joth hammer himself?

Vote: mail-mi

I'm not making the argument that LaLight is thirdparty, I'm just saying it's a possibility.

It looks like it's going to be me or Vote: LaLight today. Scum is him or scola. Obv. I prefer scola, but it looks like we're exiling a human today.

[WestCoastDidds]

Scola asked for the weekend to read. Unless that is actually scummy I’m inclined to give him the time.

[WestCoastDidds]

there is a point where getting towncred isn't necessary any more. scum does what scum does. I would rez joth, he would massacre and I would hope to lynch mail-mi or something.

No, I think WCD is onto something. If you get the towncred from not rezzing joth, then lynch me or scola, then rez joth tomorrow and get him to massacre everyone before he and you can be lynched, then scum has 50% and (probably) wins.

We also can't forget that you're the most likely of all of us to be 3rd party.

can you please answer, what is the point of me being 3rd party without killing actions?

3rd party as "needing to find all your powers" and not needing a kill to do that--in fact, having a kill would be an antithesis to that because it would speed up the game.

If LL's a third-party, why did joth hammer himself?

Vote: mail-mi

I don’t follow. Can you explain for the kids in back?

[MiX]

Scola asked for the weekend to read. Unless that is actually scummy I’m inclined to give him the time.

Weekend? That's like, boring.

Unvote

there is a point where getting towncred isn't necessary any more. scum does what scum does. I would rez joth, he would massacre and I would hope to lynch mail-mi or something.

No, I think WCD is onto something. If you get the towncred from not rezzing joth, then lynch me or scola, then rez joth tomorrow and get him to massacre everyone before he and you can be lynched, then scum has 50% and (probably) wins.

We also can't forget that you're the most likely of all of us to be 3rd party.

can you please answer, what is the point of me being 3rd party without killing actions?

3rd party as "needing to find all your powers" and not needing a kill to do that--in fact, having a kill would be an antithesis to that because it would speed up the game.

If LL's a third-party, why did joth hammer himself?

Vote: mail-mi

I don’t follow. Can you explain for the kids in back?

Follow what?

[WestCoastDidds]

It is boring, I agree. But I trying to be accommodating instead of just being a Jabroni.

Why did Joth hammer himself? What does it have to do with LL?

[MiX]

It is boring, I agree. But I trying to be accommodating instead of just being a Jabroni.

Why did Joth hammer himself? What does it have to do with LL?

Well, joth hammered himself because that helped the living scum. Therefore, there's living scum.

Also, hold on.

[WestCoastDidds]

Oh, but it could be LL

[WestCoastDidds]

I get it now. It’s a reason that LL isn’t third party, but he (or anyone) could be scum

[MiX]

Also, let's not forget that LaLight has a perfect a) third party role (perhaps all scum are hosts and he's a third party that is considered a "thread to town"), or b) if he's scum, he has a rolecop right there.

"But mail-mi," LaLight says, "why was the first power I had to find of my partner?" Because it's a gambit. You already knew your partner's power, so you claimed that it's the first one you needed to find for distancing and cover purposes. Or maybe it was a gimme. I don't know the game design.

Point is, arguing mechanics is not convincing--especially since LaLight seems to be ignoring the parts of my role that are definitely town-aligned (read: resurrecting only townies).

This is the scumslip. Read the win condition again:

Alignment: Town
Win Condition: You win when all Mafia-aligned players are Dead and there is at least one Living Town Host.

Important bit bolded for your convenience.

Mail-mi is not town.

I'll hammer once scola votes mail-mi, but he might be coming up with something good.

[mail-mi]

Also, let's not forget that LaLight has a perfect a) third party role (perhaps all scum are hosts and he's a third party that is considered a "thread to town"), or b) if he's scum, he has a rolecop right there.

"But mail-mi," LaLight says, "why was the first power I had to find of my partner?" Because it's a gambit. You already knew your partner's power, so you claimed that it's the first one you needed to find for distancing and cover purposes. Or maybe it was a gimme. I don't know the game design.

Point is, arguing mechanics is not convincing--especially since LaLight seems to be ignoring the parts of my role that are definitely town-aligned (read: resurrecting only townies).

This is the scumslip. Read the win condition again:

Alignment: Town
Win Condition: You win when all Mafia-aligned players are Dead and there is at least one Living Town Host.

Important bit bolded for your convenience.

Mail-mi is not town.

I'll hammer once scola votes mail-mi, but he might be coming up with something good.

Dude, not a scumslip. I haven't looked at my win condition since the beginning of the game. I just assumed it was the same as most other town wincons, with the host thing added.

But that does rule out LL being a third-party that is a threat to town, which is a good find.

[MiX]

Also, let's not forget that LaLight has a perfect a) third party role (perhaps all scum are hosts and he's a third party that is considered a "thread to town"), or b) if he's scum, he has a rolecop right there.

"But mail-mi," LaLight says, "why was the first power I had to find of my partner?" Because it's a gambit. You already knew your partner's power, so you claimed that it's the first one you needed to find for distancing and cover purposes. Or maybe it was a gimme. I don't know the game design.

Point is, arguing mechanics is not convincing--especially since LaLight seems to be ignoring the parts of my role that are definitely town-aligned (read: resurrecting only townies).

This is the scumslip. Read the win condition again:

Alignment: Town
Win Condition: You win when all Mafia-aligned players are Dead and there is at least one Living Town Host.

Important bit bolded for your convenience.

Mail-mi is not town.

I'll hammer once scola votes mail-mi, but he might be coming up with something good.

Dude, not a scumslip. I haven't looked at my win condition since the beginning of the game. I just assumed it was the same as most other town wincons, with the host thing added.

But that does rule out LL being a third-party that is a threat to town, which is a good find.

Fine. But you're still scum.

The important part is, if LL's scum, what is happening with this game.

[mail-mi]

Fine. But you're still scum.

The important part is, if LL's scum, what is happening with this game.

Or we could agree on Scola being scum.