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[MiX]

I'd ask that we hold off on the hammer. We have time.

I spent last night rereading D1. I was planning on continuing that tonight / this weekend.

What were you looking for?

If you wanna do stuff, we can wait, but I don't think we can do much considering last scum could just be a traitor.

[WestCoastDidds]

Okay... as long as you can promise me that you are actually doing an open minded read and not just tunneling your all scum host theory. Is that fair?

[mail-mi]

Please don't hammer yet, I have a few things to say.

[scolapasta]

Okay... as long as you can promise me that you are actually doing an open minded read and not just tunneling your all scum host theory. Is that fair?

Ha! That's fair. Of course, I am definitely looking for evidence for my theory, but am trying also find evidence against it.

[MiX]

Unvote

[mail-mi]

I hate how inevitable my exile feels. I bet this is how faust felt yesterday, knowing that there was nothing he could do about the exile.

Here's what I'm worried about: a joth/LL/scola team. I think it's the most likely option right now (knowing that I'm town). It makes sense with scola being blocked and everything. Joth could easily have told traitor!LL that scola is his partner last night.

Wait, hm. I guess that doesn't make any sense, because if LL rezzes joth, then they control 50% of town and they win (probably). So never mind, ignore that scenario.

Anyway, I know that scola has been blocked and there have been no NKs. I think that's better evidence than anything that's been brought against me.

[MiX]

Vote: mail-mi

[scolapasta]

I hate how inevitable my exile feels. I bet this is how faust felt yesterday, knowing that there was nothing he could do about the exile.

Here's what I'm worried about: a joth/LL/scola team. I think it's the most likely option right now (knowing that I'm town). It makes sense with scola being blocked and everything. Joth could easily have told traitor!LL that scola is his partner last night.

Wait, hm. I guess that doesn't make any sense, because if LL rezzes joth, then they control 50% of town and they win (probably). So never mind, ignore that scenario.

Anyway, I know that scola has been blocked and there have been no NKs. I think that's better evidence than anything that's been brought against me.

You know, if I weren't me - I'd agree with this logic. In fact I think I did agree back when we exiled ADK.

I think the main reason not to exile me is that I currently be massacred by joth. But honestly, between that or exiling mail-mi, I think I'd prefer we exile me.

Then when the game is not over, it'll be clear I'm not scum* and someone can rezz me. and maybe joth can't get rezzed, so that doesn't have to be as much of a concern.

* either because another NK happens; or no NK happens which would should no NK could be from a different cause than my getting blocked.

All that said, I'd still like to continue my reread.

LL, could you unvote right now? After I will add something else.

[MiX]

Unvote

[LaLight]

Unvote

Sorry, I have a huge ruckus for this and probably the next day

[mail-mi]

I hate how inevitable my exile feels. I bet this is how faust felt yesterday, knowing that there was nothing he could do about the exile.

Here's what I'm worried about: a joth/LL/scola team. I think it's the most likely option right now (knowing that I'm town). It makes sense with scola being blocked and everything. Joth could easily have told traitor!LL that scola is his partner last night.

Wait, hm. I guess that doesn't make any sense, because if LL rezzes joth, then they control 50% of town and they win (probably). So never mind, ignore that scenario.

Anyway, I know that scola has been blocked and there have been no NKs. I think that's better evidence than anything that's been brought against me.

You know, if I weren't me - I'd agree with this logic. In fact I think I did agree back when we exiled ADK.

I think the main reason not to exile me is that I currently be massacred by joth. But honestly, between that or exiling mail-mi, I think I'd prefer we exile me.

Then when the game is not over, it'll be clear I'm not scum* and someone can rezz me. and maybe joth can't get rezzed, so that doesn't have to be as much of a concern.

* either because another NK happens; or no NK happens which would should no NK could be from a different cause than my getting blocked.

All that said, I'd still like to continue my reread.

LL, could you unvote right now? After I will add something else.

Classic scumslip right there.

At least, I've been able to find scum by watching them say "Your arguments are good, and I agree-except I'm town" several times. Don't remember any specific examples, but I know I've been caught the same way too.

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX, do you only have one shot?

Yams, can you reload shots or give shots to hosts?

[WestCoastDidds]

If we really want to entertain Scola/LL/Joth...Mix can shoot Scola and we exile LL, yeah?

[mail-mi]

MiX, do you only have one shot?

Yams, can you reload shots or give shots to hosts?

Unfortunately not.

[mail-mi]

If we really want to entertain Scola/LL/Joth...Mix can shoot Scola and we exile LL, yeah?

I mean... we could? I was trying to make that argument, but then there's no reason for LL to not rez joth. Then they have 50% and (most likely) win.

[WestCoastDidds]

Yeah, I figured that out right after I posted

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX, do you only have one shot?

Yams, can you reload shots or give shots to hosts?

Unfortunately not.

Sheesh! Perhaps cake would be a good consolation prize. But IRL cake.

[scolapasta]

I hate how inevitable my exile feels. I bet this is how faust felt yesterday, knowing that there was nothing he could do about the exile.

Here's what I'm worried about: a joth/LL/scola team. I think it's the most likely option right now (knowing that I'm town). It makes sense with scola being blocked and everything. Joth could easily have told traitor!LL that scola is his partner last night.

Wait, hm. I guess that doesn't make any sense, because if LL rezzes joth, then they control 50% of town and they win (probably). So never mind, ignore that scenario.

Anyway, I know that scola has been blocked and there have been no NKs. I think that's better evidence than anything that's been brought against me.

You know, if I weren't me - I'd agree with this logic. In fact I think I did agree back when we exiled ADK.

I think the main reason not to exile me is that I currently be massacred by joth. But honestly, between that or exiling mail-mi, I think I'd prefer we exile me.

Then when the game is not over, it'll be clear I'm not scum* and someone can rezz me. and maybe joth can't get rezzed, so that doesn't have to be as much of a concern.

* either because another NK happens; or no NK happens which would should no NK could be from a different cause than my getting blocked.

All that said, I'd still like to continue my reread.

LL, could you unvote right now? After I will add something else.

Classic scumslip right there.

At least, I've been able to find scum by watching them say "Your arguments are good, and I agree-except I'm town" several times. Don't remember any specific examples, but I know I've been caught the same way too.

Sure, or it could just be NAI, because the "I've been blocked" and no NKs does make sense.

There was a recent game where someone made a good argument against me and I said the same type of thing... and was exiled as town.

[scolapasta]

So, my other thought - MiX why did you unvote and then revote mail-mi after he posted #1937?

[WestCoastDidds]

Okay...trying to think through LL.

If rezzes Joth, Joth massacres himself, me, and MiX.... that leaves LL, yams, and Scola so they lose because LL gets exiled.

So, it’s smarter to NOT fix Joth, tell everyone that he didn’t so get gets the towncred.

That works, yeah? But it makes Scola town.

[LaLight]

there is a point where getting towncred isn't necessary any more. scum does what scum does. I would rez joth, he would massacre and I would hope to lynch mail-mi or something.

[mail-mi]

there is a point where getting towncred isn't necessary any more. scum does what scum does. I would rez joth, he would massacre and I would hope to lynch mail-mi or something.

No, I think WCD is onto something. If you get the towncred from not rezzing joth, then lynch me or scola, then rez joth tomorrow and get him to massacre everyone before he and you can be lynched, then scum has 50% and (probably) wins.

We also can't forget that you're the most likely of all of us to be 3rd party.

[LaLight]

there is a point where getting towncred isn't necessary any more. scum does what scum does. I would rez joth, he would massacre and I would hope to lynch mail-mi or something.

No, I think WCD is onto something. If you get the towncred from not rezzing joth, then lynch me or scola, then rez joth tomorrow and get him to massacre everyone before he and you can be lynched, then scum has 50% and (probably) wins.

We also can't forget that you're the most likely of all of us to be 3rd party.

can you please answer, what is the point of me being 3rd party without killing actions?

[WestCoastDidds]

Still thinking through LL

If his play was towncred... if yams gets exiled, assume no NK...The tomorrow it’s Joth, MiX, WCD, Scola, and LL.
Joth massacres himself, MiX, and me. That leaves Scola and LL. Scum wins.

[WestCoastDidds]

(I know that’s what you said yams, I just had to work through it)