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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1425 on: August 09, 2020, 06:06:18 pm »

Now, I have thought about it and yeah, Unvote. I am sorry, mail-mi, I guess you were right about not claiming the ability. But it all made so much sense when I thought about it earlier.

Let's say the scumteam is all hosts. This leaves 3 hosts in a game right now. Out of them I think Vote: jotheonah

Also, who resurrected joth?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1426 on: August 09, 2020, 06:29:49 pm »

Swowl rezzed Joth
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1427 on: August 09, 2020, 10:42:40 pm »

Vote Count 5.1

jotheonah (2): faust, LaLight
faust (1): jotheonah
LaLight (1): mail-mi

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With 6 alive it takes 4 to Exile. Day 5 lasts until August 15th, 3:20 pm Forum Time
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1428 on: August 10, 2020, 05:18:31 am »

Given the apparent limitations on the scum kill, we should assume that there are 3 scum. The game is still going, so it seems likely that one of those scum is dead. (Though the game could be going for other reasons, i.e. maintenance plus abilities that block/redirect kills.)

The dead hosts are ADK, Awaclus, MiX.

It seems unlikely that scum would kill scum!MiX if they otherwise they would have a blocking majority for the exile. So if MiX was scum (and thus this kill a ploy for us the resurrect and townread MiX) then I think that means that another scum is already dead.

Which leaves ADK and Awaclus. But Awaclus had, by LaLight's admission, an ability that directly ties into the town wincon (i.e. he would not count as a host towards the town wincon) - which doesn't make a ton of sense if he's scum. The conclusion would be that either Awaclus and LaLight are both scum and LaLight is covering for Awaclus (but that seems a bit strange given that Awaclus seemingly cannot be resurrected), or - most likely - Awaclus is town.

Which in turn leads me to conclude that ADK is scum. And ADK being scum strongly implies that mail-mi is town, since he shut them down for good (as confirmed). And if we work under the assumption that mail-mi is town, then we should also trust his result on joth. Which, in turn, makes joth scum as well.

This all means that scum shot scum N1. Which, considering that there are 2 scum hosts, seems like a decent play for towncred. It also makes Didds look towny, since if scum already planned to shoot their own it doesn't make much sense to also have redirection going on.

Do you see flaws in this logic?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1429 on: August 10, 2020, 07:52:48 am »

Unless the human scum is a traitor. Maybe mail-mi didn’t know ADK was his partner. In that scenario there’s nothing making him town (and this nothing making me scum).
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1430 on: August 10, 2020, 07:58:25 am »

b]Unvote[/b]

Faust’s theory at least doesn’t leave room for faust to be scum.

Vote: Mail-mi

We have to hit the human scum to end this game and from my perspective it has to be Mail-mi unless there’s some other reason his weird investigative power thingy failed.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1431 on: August 10, 2020, 08:12:43 am »

Why would scum!ADK try to smear scum!mail-mi by suggesting they got a different answer to the question to the question mail-mi asked?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1432 on: August 10, 2020, 08:16:32 am »

Plus if mail-mi was a Traitor, I strongly doubt he'd just willy-nilly remove someone form the game who might very well be his partner.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1433 on: August 10, 2020, 08:34:02 am »

Sanity check for the case where there's 3 living scum and everyone currently dead is town.

As per the additional info LaLight revealed about mail-mi's role, we would know that there is at least one mafia host. Of course it would be possible that mail-mi/LaLight are both scum and pointlessly making something up. But that doesn't seem very likely.

In this scenario, mail-mi would be scum by ADK's accusation. Which means that joth would likely be town. So the only candidate for a mafia Host would be Didds. Thus we'd have like mail-mi/Didds plus either LaLight or scola.

Voting patterns today make it quite unlikely that it would be LaLight/mail-mi, so that leaves it at mail-mi, Didds, scola.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1434 on: August 10, 2020, 10:55:24 am »

I am following along with faust's logic, and that leads me once again to a Vote: Joth. Let's get the last scum host out of the picture.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1435 on: August 10, 2020, 11:04:39 am »

That's X-1, no? I'm not ready for this day to end so quickly, but still have intent to vote joth.

I do think faust's suggestion (though he discounted it) that Lalight and mail-mi made up this power interesting. (if they had had more NKs that all been hosts, that would be an amazing scum move. But going to NKs without kills to make this happen. Seems probably too risky. But something to noodle on.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1436 on: August 10, 2020, 11:30:45 am »

Good morning!

Huh....so, we exile Joth? I kind of feel like there has to be a scum human, no? I don’t think it’s mail-mi, though. Messaging me on the first day asking if I was a host would be super nervy as scum.

I don’t know why it would be LaLight, so that leaves faust or Scola.

Scola is all in on all scum are hosts. If it’s true, and we exile Joth, we win. If it’s not true, and I’m the last town host and get whacked, we’re screwed.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1437 on: August 10, 2020, 11:31:42 am »

Scola, are you ready for us to test the all-host scum theory? If so, I’ll hammer.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1438 on: August 10, 2020, 11:59:13 am »

I mean, if WCD gets whacked, we can always bring her back to life. We can also bring MiX back to life, I'm pretty sure he's town. As long as we keep 1 town host alive, we can win.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1439 on: August 10, 2020, 12:06:47 pm »

Scola, are you ready for us to test the all-host scum theory? If so, I’ll hammer.

I think I'd like to spend a little more time before we end the day. (Monday-Wednesday are my my high meeting days)
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1440 on: August 10, 2020, 12:09:26 pm »

Well, this does feel an awful lot like the last Day. That's a bit worrisome.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1441 on: August 10, 2020, 12:30:39 pm »

Yeah, I think if I get whacked, then we don't get to a point where MiX is rezzed, so there are no human hosts alive. 

Unless Scola is a host. If Scola is a host we have some wiggle room.  If he's not, then we gotta be sure, sure unless there is some protection that I am forgetting (entirely possible) that gets me to tomorrow
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1442 on: August 10, 2020, 12:31:16 pm »

Hang on.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1443 on: August 10, 2020, 12:34:23 pm »

Vote: joth
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1444 on: August 10, 2020, 12:38:02 pm »

UH - OH.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1445 on: August 10, 2020, 12:38:40 pm »

Why would town joth exile themselves???
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1446 on: August 10, 2020, 12:39:01 pm »

Joth, please explain yourself??
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1447 on: August 10, 2020, 12:40:11 pm »

Joth, please explain yourself??
He's scum is why.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1448 on: August 10, 2020, 12:48:17 pm »

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1449 on: August 10, 2020, 12:51:05 pm »

Vote Count 5.FINAL

jotheonah (4): faust, LaLight, mail-mi, joth

Not Voting (2): WestCoastDidds, scolapasta

With 6 alive it takes 4 to Exile.
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