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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1200 on: August 03, 2020, 01:10:48 pm »

I think it is safe to say that whatever is going on with scum's nightkills, I'm not the one blocking them.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1201 on: August 03, 2020, 01:12:18 pm »

Busy days, will need to get caught up.

But I can at least claim my actions:
Watched Lalight, only 1 person targeted, i.e. me.

Also, @Didds, "reveries"?

When I am rezzed, I get to find out who targeted them me I was living. I assume this is a host ability rather than something specific to me, although I could be wrong. If there is another host (besides Joth) they know if it's correct or not. It's called Reveries. 
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1202 on: August 03, 2020, 01:13:04 pm »

Well.

I targeted MiX tonight and blocked him from {faust, LaLight, scolapasta, mail-mi, Awaclus}. I also activated my special power and learned that MiX did not attempt to target someone from that group.

I was targeted for maintenance by Didds and ADK. I attempted to revive ADK, which apparently failed. ADK told me that they asked the question mail-mi supposedly asked about them and got a different answer.

How could Didds have been revived then? (or are you saying you also revived her)
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1203 on: August 03, 2020, 01:14:26 pm »

Well.

I targeted MiX tonight and blocked him from {faust, LaLight, scolapasta, mail-mi, Awaclus}. I also activated my special power and learned that MiX did not attempt to target someone from that group.

I was targeted for maintenance by Didds and ADK. I attempted to revive ADK, which apparently failed. ADK told me that they asked the question mail-mi supposedly asked about them and got a different answer.

How could Didds have been revived then? (or are you saying you also revived her)
Yeah I revived both, I thought that I revived Didds went without saying, sorry for the confusion.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1204 on: August 03, 2020, 01:15:48 pm »

When I am rezzed, I get to find out who targeted them me I was living.
I do not understand this...
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1205 on: August 03, 2020, 01:16:55 pm »

@Scola- I think that LL "visited" them on N2 last night...I think the "visit" is more like visiting a memory or whatever.  I don't thinlk is saying that he did this on N2. 

LL, is that right?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1206 on: August 03, 2020, 01:22:20 pm »

When I am rezzed, I get to find out who targeted them me I was living.
I do not understand this...

So, in my role description has three parts. One is the description of the deflection.  Another tells me that I can request someone and then enter analysis mode.  They can fix me and then I am back in the game. And then another is that when I am brought back to life I will be told the names of players who targeted me with abilities when I was alive.  (the list was Joth, yams, and MiX which checks out with the claims, I think).

This is the reason that when Joth said he knew who had targeted him that I thought he had misspoken because I assumed he would get that information without having to activate anything, because that is how it is for me. 

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1207 on: August 03, 2020, 01:24:43 pm »

This is also the reason that I wondered if scum!Swowl would have known to tell Joth he targeted him one of his scum host buddies has the same ability.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1208 on: August 03, 2020, 01:27:50 pm »

@Scola- I think that LL "visited" them on N2 last night...I think the "visit" is more like visiting a memory or whatever.  I don't thinlk is saying that he did this on N2. 

LL, is that right?

Ah, that makes sense.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1209 on: August 03, 2020, 01:40:10 pm »

I visited faust and Awaclus on Night 2 after a long way trying to figure out if deflecting would work retroactively and being told it wouldn't.

Here I should say again that I misunderstood my ability again and I get to see if people I visit are targeted by a person who has the ability I am looking for, not the ability itself. So I got a Yes on faust and No on Awaclus and the info that I targeted the bearer of ability 2 times.

This Day I guessed Awaclus and got to know that his passive ability is the one he was talking about. He is seen a human instead of Host. If some condition he doesn't know anything about is met, the ability will be switched off. and also while this ability is active, he can't be the last remaining town host.

Does visiting count as targetting? Shouldn't I have seen you, then?

I saw 4 people, we were assuming it was me, faust, Didds, and Swowl. (with the assumption Didds redirected from faust to Awaclus). But if you're one of the 4, then one of the other 3 can't be; and if it's not Didds, then it wouldn't be faust either, since he cliams to have targeted Awaclus)

yeah, it doesn't work like this. I did that This Night, but I get to choose which night do I go to visit
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1210 on: August 03, 2020, 01:40:26 pm »

@Scola- I think that LL "visited" them on N2 last night...I think the "visit" is more like visiting a memory or whatever.  I don't thinlk is saying that he did this on N2. 

LL, is that right?

Ah, that makes sense.

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1211 on: August 03, 2020, 01:41:24 pm »

Hmm...so...Awaclus is town?

Or, uh, we have no results that help us because there's no kills to track/watch!

We killed our cop/doctor D1 then??

What's with this game...
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1212 on: August 03, 2020, 05:21:37 pm »

Joth, why do you think Swowl is town?

Mainly because he brought me back to life, even though he had perfect cover not to.

Apparently the scum team this game can't get a kill through to save their lives, so I just can't believe they would actually UNDO the one kill they've actually done.

So, if you're town...let's assume that you were the target (instead of getting a redirected hit aimed at ADK which is also possible and doesn't really change anything), Swowl says he targeted you for something else so he has some sort of cover when you get a result on him. If he's scum, he'd have had a QT with his buddies while he had analysis mode with you and one of the hosts could have told him about Reveries. So, he creates some cover for having whacked you.

Then he revives you and creates a perma-ally for the rest of the game. 

Nervy, but not outside the realm of possibility, yeah?  And at the time he fixed you, scum didn't know that killing was going to be such a challenge.

In his explanation for why he targeted you, he said it was because he thought Glooble was scummy, but earlier he corrected something I wrote and said Glooble wasn't in the game...obviously he forgot that you had replaced in, but that makes it harder to believe he thought you were scummy because he thought Glooble had been.

I am not at all sure about Swan, and his investigations last night make no sense at all to me, and now my only conf!town fasut is voting for him, so I just want to think through your confidence in him more fully. It works, right?

Of course, if you're scum, and he's scum, it works much better.

no clue what a reverie is.
none of that happened.
Also, I wouldn't of led with half a result like I did if it were true - way to suspicious as skum (especially if I knew the answer already because "I did it").

In regards to my selection of night action targets, I do not understand what is confusing to people about the selection.

Also - @ faust - I cannot remember why you are not on the list of subset two. I mean, you are not - double checked - but either I just forgot to include you or I had a reason, probably just forgot. Doesn't matter anyways now I suppose.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1213 on: August 03, 2020, 05:24:36 pm »

I disagree.

Vote: Swowl

calm down. I said I would spill what it was eventually. Not planning on holding onto the info like indefinitely, I just wanted to get the claims out first.

Joth - you wanna go ahead and tell them what you gave me please.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1214 on: August 03, 2020, 05:28:02 pm »

I think it is safe to say that whatever is going on with scum's nightkills, I'm not the one blocking them.

well as you are the only blocker and you blocked mix and no one died and you checked him... yeah I would agree there is something else probably.

maybe like enabler skum!host or something like that?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1215 on: August 03, 2020, 10:31:36 pm »

I disagree.

Vote: Swowl

calm down. I said I would spill what it was eventually. Not planning on holding onto the info like indefinitely, I just wanted to get the claims out first.

Joth - you wanna go ahead and tell them what you gave me please.

Sure. It’s a dayvig that will fail under certain unknown circumstances. If it succeeds it protects Swowl from the night kill tonight.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1216 on: August 03, 2020, 10:53:30 pm »

Vote Count 4.1

Swowl (1): faust

Not Voting (7): mail-mi, MiX, LaLight, scolapasta, Swowl, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah

With 8 alive it takes 5 to exile. Day 4 lasts until August 8th, 3:10 pm Forum Time
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1217 on: August 03, 2020, 11:30:51 pm »

I disagree.

Vote: Swowl

calm down. I said I would spill what it was eventually. Not planning on holding onto the info like indefinitely, I just wanted to get the claims out first.

Joth - you wanna go ahead and tell them what you gave me please.

Sure. It’s a dayvig that will fail under certain unknown circumstances. If it succeeds it protects Swowl from the night kill tonight.

sorry, just wanted to be sure.
and yes that is what it is. and I have to use it today.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1218 on: August 03, 2020, 11:32:34 pm »

also I have no idea at all what the conditions of which it will fail under are... so if anyone has any light to shed on that. that would just be great.

It would be nice to have MM confirm no actions and then I think pasta and Mix need to finalize. We are playing with half a deck here. full claims need to be finished.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1219 on: August 04, 2020, 12:38:18 am »

Cool. joth, can you now explain why you gave it to Swowl?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1220 on: August 04, 2020, 01:58:16 am »

Cool. joth, can you now explain why you gave it to Swowl?

insert obvious answer here.

Why did you block MiX?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1221 on: August 04, 2020, 02:03:52 am »

I have also brought this up to everyone a few times now and gotten no feedback.
I have the ability to perma shutdown a host with maintenance. What does everyone make of that?

Also... vig shot and all. I know where I am at with how to handle it, but I think it would be beneficial to get some opinions put down from everyone.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1222 on: August 04, 2020, 02:26:53 am »

Also faust, is your current stance that ADK was town?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1223 on: August 04, 2020, 03:31:26 am »

Cool. joth, can you now explain why you gave it to Swowl?

insert obvious answer here.

Why did you block MiX?
I was worried about him playing me. Also his claimed role didn't seem important, so it was fine to block, I wanted to have tracking/watching results unblocked.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1224 on: August 04, 2020, 03:35:46 am »

Also faust, is your current stance that ADK was town?
The host situation is very irritating. I read both ADK and joth as scum, but it seems very unlikely that they both are, given the kill.

If ADK is town then mail-mi would be implicated, and I townread mail-mi, so that's strange. However if joth is town then mail-mi is also implicated. We have no evidence of powers being blocked other than by me, so it's unclear why resurrecting joth failed.
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