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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #175 on: July 09, 2020, 07:33:04 am »

If this was super obvious to Arch as you make it out to be then he would have just answered my question. He didn't and that already shows that he thinks this would be a valid design choice.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #176 on: July 09, 2020, 07:34:17 am »

If this was super obvious to Arch as you make it out to be then he would have just answered my question. He didn't and that already shows that he thinks this would be a valid design choice.

Well as scum, answering that's a bit more complicated.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #177 on: July 09, 2020, 07:34:44 am »

Win conditions which were public as the game would be bastard without it.
Pfft no it wouldn'tand that's a silly argument. Maybe you'd find that bastard, but I am pretty sure Arch wouldn't.

So wait. You think that the same alignment can have different win conditions? And that be a normal thing?

Why?
Why not? The win condition given in the setup post is nonstandard, so it is not far-fetched to assume we have other nonstandard win conditions. Like someone who needs a human alive rather than a Host at the end seems like a pretty reasonable choice.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #178 on: July 09, 2020, 07:36:04 am »

But then they don't win with town. They win only if town could win, but...

This is dumb. I'll ask the question myself.

Do all town-aligned players have the same win condition?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #179 on: July 09, 2020, 07:50:25 am »

Oh hey, the setup rules out the possibility of hostile third-parties, neat.

At least hostile to everyone I guess.

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #180 on: July 09, 2020, 08:13:35 am »

That is my win condition is well

faust is towny for going down this route, though
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #181 on: July 09, 2020, 08:43:43 am »

Good morning!!

Okay, I just went and double checked because I didn’t read carefully beyond the when all mafia folks are dead part, but I also need at least one human host to be alive. Which is why my earlier question was about how many hosts we might have.

MiX...how do you not know I’m here?!? You’ve even answered some of my questions. I’ll say that one reason for my lack of engagement has been that I am trying to listen intently to setup talk.

I don’t think faust is behaving scummily.

Glooble, how are you? What do you think of the game so far?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #182 on: July 09, 2020, 08:47:46 am »

Vote: Glooble

I was about to say Glooble as that's the thing I want the most right now. Where are you?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #183 on: July 09, 2020, 10:16:56 am »

I'm here

But also I won't be here very much over the weekend, I'm going on vacation this weekend.

What is this discussion on win conditions? I have the same as everyone else has stated. Not sure if I find Faust scummy for it or not. It's all probably NAI.

Still comfortable with my vote on hyper (at least, that's where it should be. If not, Vote: hyper
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #184 on: July 09, 2020, 10:42:35 am »

but I also need at least one human host to be alive.
Err, what? There are no human hosts, that's the whole point...
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #185 on: July 09, 2020, 11:03:01 am »

Have we had a vote count recently? I am willing to vote faust, but not sure if ready enough to put him at X-1.

I also asked archetype a question about the win condition (which is the same as everyone else here), and did get an answer. So not sure what is going on.

Though, as always, I am second guessing a little. Would scum!faust ask this publicly, knowing it might arouse suspicion.

So, maybe I'll pause on that vote... would still be good to see a vote count. I can try to to do a scolacounta later tonight if we don't get one before then.

Also am equally confused by Didds' "human host".

I'm actually watching S1 now, and I'd be surprised if there were not a 3rd party "Man in Black". That said, I'm only through 4 episodes, so we'll see if he turns out to be something else*.

* man, hoping not to get too spoiled, by goal is to be done with S1 by end of N1.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #186 on: July 09, 2020, 11:19:18 am »

Good morning!!

Okay, I just went and double checked because I didn’t read carefully beyond the when all mafia folks are dead part, but I also need at least one human host to be alive. Which is why my earlier question was about how many hosts we might have.

MiX...how do you not know I’m here?!? You’ve even answered some of my questions. I’ll say that one reason for my lack of engagement has been that I am trying to listen intently to setup talk.

I don’t think faust is behaving scummily.

Glooble, how are you? What do you think of the game so far?

Today is my "actually go into the office day" and I have my zoom writing group in the evening so I may not have much time to dive into the game today. I feel like a lot has happened in these first six pages compared to a normal day one, so hopefully I'll have time to do some rereads soon and draw some conclusions.

My instinct now re: faust is that there might be some scumminess happening, but the reaction to it has been disproportionate. I think there's more scum to be found among the faust-voters. I don't think it's LaLight though- his comments about a faust-dar are just too brazen to come from scum LaLight. Hence my vote being on hyper for now (plus the reasons I've mentioned.)
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia
« Reply #187 on: July 09, 2020, 12:26:37 pm »

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Do all town-aligned players have the same win condition?
All Town-aligned players must meet the Win Condition stated in the second post
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #188 on: July 09, 2020, 12:35:24 pm »

but I also need at least one human host to be alive.
Err, what? There are no human hosts, that's the whole point...

Sorry, living town host.

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #189 on: July 09, 2020, 12:38:19 pm »

Vote: faust

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #190 on: July 09, 2020, 12:45:19 pm »

Vote: faust

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #191 on: July 09, 2020, 12:51:40 pm »

Vote: faust

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What do you presume happen here? I lied about some easily verifiable thing for no reason?

I presumed you would explain what happened in more detailed if I voted for you...

Vote: Glooble
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #192 on: July 09, 2020, 12:52:34 pm »

Vote: faust

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What do you presume happen here? I lied about some easily verifiable thing for no reason?

I presumed you would explain what happened in more detailed if I voted for you...

Vote: Glooble
Well it's a QT quoting issue, so I have to wait for Archetype's input.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #193 on: July 09, 2020, 12:53:05 pm »

Do all players with the same alignment share the same win condition?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #194 on: July 09, 2020, 01:02:24 pm »

This Not Voting wagon is pretty terrible.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #195 on: July 09, 2020, 01:19:21 pm »

Do all players with the same alignment share the same win condition?
I won’t answer this
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #196 on: July 09, 2020, 01:23:02 pm »

I see.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #197 on: July 09, 2020, 01:27:59 pm »

yeah, so it's not about town per se
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #198 on: July 09, 2020, 01:42:51 pm »

Have we had a vote count recently? I am willing to vote faust, but not sure if ready enough to put him at X-1.

I also asked archetype a question about the win condition (which is the same as everyone else here), and did get an answer. So not sure what is going on.

Though, as always, I am second guessing a little. Would scum!faust ask this publicly, knowing it might arouse suspicion.

So, maybe I'll pause on that vote... would still be good to see a vote count. I can try to to do a scolacounta later tonight if we don't get one before then.

Also am equally confused by Didds' "human host".

I'm actually watching S1 now, and I'd be surprised if there were not a 3rd party "Man in Black". That said, I'm only through 4 episodes, so we'll see if he turns out to be something else*.

* man, hoping not to get too spoiled, by goal is to be done with S1 by end of N1.

Did you ask a question about your win condition, or about other people's win conditions?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #199 on: July 09, 2020, 01:46:32 pm »

Vote: faust

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What do you presume happen here? I lied about some easily verifiable thing for no reason?

Yeah, this is what makes me hesitate. But I also don't get why you'd say post win condition, as even scum would just quote the setup.

Though I guess something about your QT made you doubt, and we're waiting to here. Still makes me think this is town!faust.
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