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New Inheritance with new Embargo
« on: May 22, 2020, 09:19:36 pm »
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I have a question for new Inheritance with new Embargo.

Inheritance : Once per game: Set aside a non-Command Action card from the Supply costing up to $4. Move your Estate token to it. (During your turns, Estates are also Actions with "Play the card with your Estate token, leaving it there.")

Embargo :+$2, Trash this. If you did, add an Embargo token to a Supply pile. (For the rest of the game, when a player buys a card from that pile, they gain a Curse.).

1) I play an Estate
2) I trash the embargo set aside.
3) But he stay aside.
4) So can I use the Embargo token ?

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Re: New Inheritance with new Embargo
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2020, 09:31:52 pm »
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I have a question for new Inheritance with new Embargo.

Inheritance : Once per game: Set aside a non-Command Action card from the Supply costing up to $4. Move your Estate token to it. (During your turns, Estates are also Actions with "Play the card with your Estate token, leaving it there.")

Embargo :+$2, Trash this. If you did, add an Embargo token to a Supply pile. (For the rest of the game, when a player buys a card from that pile, they gain a Curse.).

1) I play an Estate
2) I trash the embargo set aside.
3) But he stay aside.
4) So can I use the Embargo token ?

thank you.

No, because you did not trash it, so you only get the +$2
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Re: New Inheritance with new Embargo
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2020, 09:42:36 pm »
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No, because you did not trash it, so you only get the +$2

If we leave it there: we can't trash it.
But If we trash it : we can't leave it there.

Why "trash this" doesn't work, and "leaving it there" work?
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Re: New Inheritance with new Embargo
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2020, 09:52:18 pm »
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No, because you did not trash it, so you only get the +$2

If we leave it there: we can't trash it.
But If we trash it : we can't leave it there.

Why "trash this" doesn't work, and "leaving it there" work?

Because the playing of the card that you are doing is the playing that Inheritance commanded you to do and the kind of playing that Inheritance commands are playings that leave the card where it is.
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Re: New Inheritance with new Embargo
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2020, 10:48:50 pm »
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When you play an inherited Estate (or any of the Command cards), they specifically tell you what card to play, i.e. they know where they are, and tell you to leave them there.

When you play a card, it always* thinks it's in play, so looks for itself in play. In your example, it's not there, so can't trash.

* I can't think of any outlier, but being Dominion, an "*" is always the safe way to go :)

tldr: when a card says "trash this" it's shorthand for "trash this from play".
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Re: New Inheritance with new Embargo
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2020, 05:54:11 am »
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Thank you !  :)
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Re: New Inheritance with new Embargo
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2020, 06:45:20 pm »
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Note that “leaving it there” doesn’t mean “don’t let it be moved to the trash”; but rather “don’t move the card into the play area”. And because it isn’t in the play area, the “trash this” fails because Embargo expects itself to be in play but it isn’t.
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Re: New Inheritance with new Embargo
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2020, 02:49:23 am »
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the “trash this” fails because Embargo expects itself to be in play but it isn’t.

So new "Band of Misfits" will not be able to trash "Embargo" in supplie. And the new Overlord will not be able to trash "Pillage" in supplie. OK !  :)

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Re: New Inheritance with new Embargo
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 03:43:34 am »
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Yep!
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