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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #725 on: June 08, 2020, 07:09:48 am »

I don't know why I asked, I think at last, that you're town. I just realised that this is a classic case of me being unable to read you and assuming you're scum again and again. Also stalled game, get a lynch already!

Now I think more clearly. let's lynch mm
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #726 on: June 08, 2020, 07:10:42 am »

if Calamitas is scum, it would be hard to lynch him without a result, unfortunately
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #727 on: June 08, 2020, 07:11:49 am »

Vote: mail-mi

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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #728 on: June 08, 2020, 07:17:39 am »

I am very interested in the general lack of PRs we are seeing in flips.

We have at least 2 letters since we have the scum RB flip.

But no need for any claims at this point I think.a
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #729 on: June 08, 2020, 10:21:57 am »

This is the wrong move, I am town. Look at my interactions D1 with Joseph, then look at my last 3 scum games D1 with my partners. I don't defend my partners so actively like that, it's basically suicide (As can be seen from the constant wagons on me).

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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #730 on: June 08, 2020, 10:34:45 am »

I am struggling to stay active in this game. But mail-mi and e lynches are both fine by me, so

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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #731 on: June 08, 2020, 10:51:40 am »

why is 2.7 not getting lynched? what are the alternatives? mail-mi and Swowl?

i don't know. i think it's 2.7 for sure and i will figure out who the second one is later
see my previous post for why specially mail-mi over e in my opinion. Why do you think e for sure?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #732 on: June 08, 2020, 10:53:29 am »

*sigh* I am a VT. My lynch isn't the worst ever, but it's also a bad idea and we'll go to mylo.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #733 on: June 08, 2020, 10:56:06 am »

*sigh* I am a VT. My lynch isn't the worst ever, but it's also a bad idea and we'll go to mylo.

I assume you think I am scum with.....?

What do you think of LaLight?

What do you think of my posts that demonstrate why I think calamitas and swowl are town?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #734 on: June 08, 2020, 10:57:23 am »

*sigh* I am a VT. My lynch isn't the worst ever, but it's also a bad idea and we'll go to mylo.

I assume you think I am scum with.....?

What do you think of LaLight?

What do you think of my posts that demonstrate why I think calamitas and swowl are town?

reply #709 and #710. Curious about your thoughts on those two posts especially
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #735 on: June 08, 2020, 10:58:01 am »

*sigh* I am a VT. My lynch isn't the worst ever, but it's also a bad idea and we'll go to mylo.

I assume you think I am scum with.....?

What do you think of LaLight?

What do you think of my posts that demonstrate why I think calamitas and swowl are town?

I was getting to that.

I already thought Swowl was town, so I agree with you there. I'm also more suspicious of LaLight, considering they've just kinda skirted along this game until you and yuma started pointing out their scumminess. They're probably your partner. I'd have to look over again what you wrote about Calamitas.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #736 on: June 08, 2020, 11:00:56 am »

This is just a super duper townie string of posts from Calamitas leading up to deadline.  The vote here put Joseph at L-2 and really made it THE lynch of choice. Calamitas then defends the Joseph wagon as really about as good a D1 lynch as you could get. Weird random ideas were rejected (my little fling with a WCD Wagon existed at the time) for a vote to ensure that a lynch happened.

I think I agree. I haven't actually reread D1 yet, I was mostly scumreading Calamitas due to his position on-wagon. If I recall correctly, the scola wagon was still a viable choice at the time, so moving to Joseph was basically the lynchpin, as you say.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #737 on: June 08, 2020, 11:01:10 am »

why is 2.7 not getting lynched? what are the alternatives? mail-mi and Swowl?

i don't know. i think it's 2.7 for sure and i will figure out who the second one is later
see my previous post for why specially mail-mi over e in my opinion. Why do you think e for sure?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #738 on: June 08, 2020, 11:03:31 am »

I am confused about e. Look how they attacked me at the beginning of D2 and still had me as slightly scummy after my defense. Their townread in the page before doesnít use any new information (not saying there isnít new stuff that is town!me indicative, just saying they didnít use it)
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #739 on: June 08, 2020, 11:04:13 am »

I still think e is our best choice of lynch for today.

I sorta forgot Didds was in this game, though that's pretty hard to do normally. So that makes me lean toward scummy on her, but I don't think scum!e tries to divert a wagon from his partner to his other partner on D1. So if e is town, didds is probably scum, and vice versa.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #740 on: June 08, 2020, 11:08:23 am »

I am confused about e. Look how they attacked me at the beginning of D2 and still had me as slightly scummy after my defense. Their townread in the page before doesnít use any new information (not saying there isnít new stuff that is town!me indicative, just saying they didnít use it)

The attack on you D2 was pure gut reactionary to a singular post disregarding the whole game.

I have since rejected that knee-jerk read
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #741 on: June 08, 2020, 11:09:16 am »

The continued slightly scummy was just me not having fully read you and coloring my read based on my knee-jerk reaction
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #742 on: June 08, 2020, 11:16:01 am »

Rereading LaLight now.

I see e's point on LaLight's position on the Joseph wagon. Placed there before it became the lynch of the day, either didn't get online before it became THE lynch or didn't want to unvote because that would be hecka scummy. So definite scumpoints there.

I'm mostly just confused by LaLight saying Dylan will claim VT. Is it because he is scum and knows that we don't have very many power roles? Is it for some other reason? I don't know, but I think I'm leaning with slightly scummier.

Then today LaLight stops voting for e after e proclaims a scumread on them and votes for me. I'm not sure if this is a partner interaction, but if e is town I can see LaLight trying to buddy up to him to dissuade his scumread. I guess I could also see it as a partner interaction as well.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #743 on: June 08, 2020, 11:17:36 am »

Rereading LaLight now.

I see e's point on LaLight's position on the Joseph wagon. Placed there before it became the lynch of the day, either didn't get online before it became THE lynch or didn't want to unvote because that would be hecka scummy. So definite scumpoints there.

I'm mostly just confused by LaLight saying Dylan will claim VT. Is it because he is scum and knows that we don't have very many power roles? Is it for some other reason? I don't know, but I think I'm leaning with slightly scummier.

Then today LaLight stops voting for e after e proclaims a scumread on them and votes for me. I'm not sure if this is a partner interaction, but if e is town I can see LaLight trying to buddy up to him to dissuade his scumread. I guess I could also see it as a partner interaction as well.

Conclusions from my read: I am willing to lynch LaLight today. I think they could be partners with e or with WCD. Or with yuma, I suppose. So I guess here's a lynch preference list:

Prefer to lynch: e, LaLight
Would be willing to lynch: yuma, Calamitas, WCD
Don't want to lynch but will if I have to: Swowl
Won't lynch: me, ADK.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #744 on: June 08, 2020, 11:27:02 am »

Rereading LaLight now.

I see e's point on LaLight's position on the Joseph wagon. Placed there before it became the lynch of the day, either didn't get online before it became THE lynch or didn't want to unvote because that would be hecka scummy. So definite scumpoints there.

I'm mostly just confused by LaLight saying Dylan will claim VT. Is it because he is scum and knows that we don't have very many power roles? Is it for some other reason? I don't know, but I think I'm leaning with slightly scummier.

Then today LaLight stops voting for e after e proclaims a scumread on them and votes for me. I'm not sure if this is a partner interaction, but if e is town I can see LaLight trying to buddy up to him to dissuade his scumread. I guess I could also see it as a partner interaction as well.

Conclusions from my read: I am willing to lynch LaLight today. I think they could be partners with e or with WCD. Or with yuma, I suppose. So I guess here's a lynch preference list:

Prefer to lynch: e, LaLight
Would be willing to lynch: yuma, Calamitas, WCD
Don't want to lynch but will if I have to: Swowl
Won't lynch: me, ADK.

So, if we Lynch LaLight and they flip scum, you still think I am scum?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #745 on: June 08, 2020, 11:31:26 am »

Rereading LaLight now.

I see e's point on LaLight's position on the Joseph wagon. Placed there before it became the lynch of the day, either didn't get online before it became THE lynch or didn't want to unvote because that would be hecka scummy. So definite scumpoints there.

I'm mostly just confused by LaLight saying Dylan will claim VT. Is it because he is scum and knows that we don't have very many power roles? Is it for some other reason? I don't know, but I think I'm leaning with slightly scummier.

Then today LaLight stops voting for e after e proclaims a scumread on them and votes for me. I'm not sure if this is a partner interaction, but if e is town I can see LaLight trying to buddy up to him to dissuade his scumread. I guess I could also see it as a partner interaction as well.

Conclusions from my read: I am willing to lynch LaLight today. I think they could be partners with e or with WCD. Or with yuma, I suppose. So I guess here's a lynch preference list:

Prefer to lynch: e, LaLight
Would be willing to lynch: yuma, Calamitas, WCD
Don't want to lynch but will if I have to: Swowl
Won't lynch: me, ADK.

So, if we Lynch LaLight and they flip scum, you still think I am scum?

I would still have a scumread on you, but not as strongly as I do now.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #746 on: June 08, 2020, 11:32:25 am »

LaLight, please state your intention with the "will claim VT"

Mail-mi: Do you have a possible narrative why scum!e continues to push Dylan? I need to read that section, just realized my source for that is e themselves. Because scum!e should have tried to let go a bit, make me convince everyone to switch to you and then either me or Dylan is next in line.

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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #747 on: June 08, 2020, 11:34:43 am »

Rereading LaLight now.

I see e's point on LaLight's position on the Joseph wagon. Placed there before it became the lynch of the day, either didn't get online before it became THE lynch or didn't want to unvote because that would be hecka scummy. So definite scumpoints there.

I'm mostly just confused by LaLight saying Dylan will claim VT. Is it because he is scum and knows that we don't have very many power roles? Is it for some other reason? I don't know, but I think I'm leaning with slightly scummier.

Then today LaLight stops voting for e after e proclaims a scumread on them and votes for me. I'm not sure if this is a partner interaction, but if e is town I can see LaLight trying to buddy up to him to dissuade his scumread. I guess I could also see it as a partner interaction as well.

Conclusions from my read: I am willing to lynch LaLight today. I think they could be partners with e or with WCD. Or with yuma, I suppose. So I guess here's a lynch preference list:

Prefer to lynch: e, LaLight
Would be willing to lynch: yuma, Calamitas, WCD
Don't want to lynch but will if I have to: Swowl
Won't lynch: me, ADK.

So, if we Lynch LaLight and they flip scum, you still think I am scum?

I would still have a scumread on you, but not as strongly as I do now.

Let me clarify: I would want to look much more closely at WCD and yuma because I think they are equally (if not more) likely to be partners with lalight.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #748 on: June 08, 2020, 11:37:01 am »

LaLight, please state your intention with the "will claim VT"

Mail-mi: Do you have a possible narrative why scum!e continues to push Dylan? I need to read that section, just realized my source for that is e themselves. Because scum!e should have tried to let go a bit, make me convince everyone to switch to you and then either me or Dylan is next in line.

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I mean, after dylan is lynched I am next in line, and scum!e can also divert to lalight (as seen here) or yuma or whathaveyou.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #749 on: June 08, 2020, 11:41:48 am »

Bottom line what I am trying to get at with mail-mi: your scum pairings don't add up.

Joseph/e/X pairings just don't work.

In fact, most pairings don't work. Joseph/mail-mi/LaLight does work
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