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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #300 on: May 23, 2020, 04:33:14 pm »

I was about to post explaining a few more scum points I've given scola and vote there, but I after soloing WCD due to e's posts, I buy it enough to vote: WCD instead for now.

For the record, the short version is that scola's last 3 posts have basically been identical, and they've been such that one of them wouldn't really be scummy, but not contributing other content in between posts like them definitely is.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #301 on: May 23, 2020, 04:33:59 pm »

we are what, 13 hours or so from deadline?

I think so.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #302 on: May 23, 2020, 04:52:31 pm »

headed to bed, BabyE wakes up at 6:15-6:30, so I will still have a good 5 hours of availability before the lynch.  Of course, then everyone in US time zones will be asleep....

You can always count on me for a good old fashioned D1 lynch though.  Push comes to shove I will help get it done
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #303 on: May 23, 2020, 04:54:30 pm »

Vote Count 1.6

Joseph2302 (4): A Drowned Kernel, yuma, LaLight, WestCoastDidds
scolapasta (2): mail-mi, Calamitas
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Calamitas (1): scolapasta
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #304 on: May 23, 2020, 05:04:45 pm »

I will probably not be around before deadline, have to see. I think I will do vote: Joseph for now. Haven't read WCD so no preference there yet, noticed nothing in the normal flow of the game.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #305 on: May 23, 2020, 05:08:34 pm »

And that was a joke, so Unvote

I don't get it

The best jokes are the ones that need to be explained more.  But actually, Joseph can do some crazy stuff, I don't think voting to L-1 here is a scum tell

Voting to L-1 isn't scummy but immediately unvoting and calling it a joke is
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #306 on: May 23, 2020, 05:18:02 pm »

And that was a joke, so Unvote

I don't get it

The best jokes are the ones that need to be explained more.  But actually, Joseph can do some crazy stuff, I don't think voting to L-1 here is a scum tell

Voting to L-1 isn't scummy but immediately unvoting and calling it a joke is

I mean, how is that scummy though? Like would scum do that hoping someone derphammers or something but then unvote before someone calls the L-1 scummy to hopefully avoid that heat or something? I just don't get it, particularly when the player in question is Joseph.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #307 on: May 23, 2020, 05:19:03 pm »

And that was a joke, so Unvote

I don't get it

The best jokes are the ones that need to be explained more.  But actually, Joseph can do some crazy stuff, I don't think voting to L-1 here is a scum tell

Voting to L-1 isn't scummy but immediately unvoting and calling it a joke is
It is not scummy in the sense that Joseph is more likely to do that as scum than as town. Joseph does crazy (seeming?) stuff all-the-time
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #308 on: May 23, 2020, 05:37:16 pm »

Oh, good gravy. The votes for me make no sense at all. Iím especially unimpressed with Dylanís join.

Eís reasons for voting for me is having non-opinions? Seriously? From the person with non-posts? We are all a bit eh on D1, but Iím at least, you know, saying what I think on a regular basis. And the specific post where he says I have non-opinions is when I started thinking about the folks trying to derail the Joseph votes as his buddies. Not non-opinion...actually thinking. Might not be good thinking, but itís not non.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #309 on: May 23, 2020, 05:37:39 pm »

I don't think scum!joseph votes there because he really thinks the lynch could go through. He votes because he's hoping it makes him look towny (and if scola is his partner, it has a good chance of getting rid of his wagon). But his immediate unvote makes it look, to me, like he became concerned about the optics of the vote right after he placed it, which is a scum mindset
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #310 on: May 23, 2020, 06:14:27 pm »

I don't think scum!joseph votes there because he really thinks the lynch could go through. He votes because he's hoping it makes him look towny (and if scola is his partner, it has a good chance of getting rid of his wagon). But his immediate unvote makes it look, to me, like he became concerned about the optics of the vote right after he placed it, which is a scum mindset

Well, that's at least a possible narrative. I think I thought the wording of the unvote was what people were talking about. I forget who but someone made the comment "Joseph's joke unvote" is scummier than "Unvote" would have been, and I think that's what I don't get.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #311 on: May 23, 2020, 06:17:50 pm »

Oh, good gravy. The votes for me make no sense at all. Iím especially unimpressed with Dylanís join.

Eís reasons for voting for me is having non-opinions? Seriously? From the person with non-posts? We are all a bit eh on D1, but Iím at least, you know, saying what I think on a regular basis. And the specific post where he says I have non-opinions is when I started thinking about the folks trying to derail the Joseph votes as his buddies. Not non-opinion...actually thinking. Might not be good thinking, but itís not non.

So my read and vote was comparing your game so far with my memory of M126. I just went and soloed your D1 in that game and it actually wasn't as different as I thought, and some of the meta ideas I was thinking were scummy here were actually even slightly more present in town!Didds there, so I take it back.

Which brings me back to Vote: scola
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #312 on: May 23, 2020, 06:24:17 pm »

I don't think scum!joseph votes there because he really thinks the lynch could go through. He votes because he's hoping it makes him look towny (and if scola is his partner, it has a good chance of getting rid of his wagon). But his immediate unvote makes it look, to me, like he became concerned about the optics of the vote right after he placed it, which is a scum mindset

Well, that's at least a possible narrative. I think I thought the wording of the unvote was what people were talking about. I forget who but someone made the comment "Joseph's joke unvote" is scummier than "Unvote" would have been, and I think that's what I don't get.

If Joseph had said "on second thought, unvote, I don't want someone to derphammer" or "actually on second thought I don't think scola's scum, unvote" that would be one thing. But the saying that he was joking makes it seem like he feels like he concerned, not about whether he was voting for scum, but how people would view his vote
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #313 on: May 23, 2020, 06:26:23 pm »

I don't think scum!joseph votes there because he really thinks the lynch could go through. He votes because he's hoping it makes him look towny (and if scola is his partner, it has a good chance of getting rid of his wagon). But his immediate unvote makes it look, to me, like he became concerned about the optics of the vote right after he placed it, which is a scum mindset

Well, that's at least a possible narrative. I think I thought the wording of the unvote was what people were talking about. I forget who but someone made the comment "Joseph's joke unvote" is scummier than "Unvote" would have been, and I think that's what I don't get.

If Joseph had said "on second thought, unvote, I don't want someone to derphammer" or "actually on second thought I don't think scola's scum, unvote" that would be one thing. But the saying that he was joking makes it seem like he feels like he concerned, not about whether he was voting for scum, but how people would view his vote
From my experience, trying to analyze what Joseph was thinking never leads to good results
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #314 on: May 23, 2020, 06:27:43 pm »

I don't think scum!joseph votes there because he really thinks the lynch could go through. He votes because he's hoping it makes him look towny (and if scola is his partner, it has a good chance of getting rid of his wagon). But his immediate unvote makes it look, to me, like he became concerned about the optics of the vote right after he placed it, which is a scum mindset

Well, that's at least a possible narrative. I think I thought the wording of the unvote was what people were talking about. I forget who but someone made the comment "Joseph's joke unvote" is scummier than "Unvote" would have been, and I think that's what I don't get.

If Joseph had said "on second thought, unvote, I don't want someone to derphammer" or "actually on second thought I don't think scola's scum, unvote" that would be one thing. But the saying that he was joking makes it seem like he feels like he concerned, not about whether he was voting for scum, but how people would view his vote

Ok, I'm not convinced enough to join his wagon, but I get why the wagon exists at least.  Also, town points to you for the thoughtful, well laid out arguments.

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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #315 on: May 23, 2020, 06:32:02 pm »

Keeping my vote on Joseph, will assumably not be around until the deadline
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #316 on: May 23, 2020, 08:10:32 pm »

Interesting that e ended up feeling the same way I did in my specific person once they came back.

I too like a vote: west
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #317 on: May 23, 2020, 08:58:35 pm »

Vote: Didds
Best chance of not mislynching me
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #318 on: May 23, 2020, 08:58:56 pm »

I may or may not be around for deadline
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #319 on: May 23, 2020, 09:26:40 pm »

Interesting that e ended up feeling the same way I did in my specific person once they came back.

I too like a vote: west

in your specific person??
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #320 on: May 23, 2020, 11:11:53 pm »

Vote Count 1.7

Joseph2302 (4): A Drowned Kernel, LaLight, WestCoastDidds, Calamitas
scolapasta (2): mail-mi, Dylan32
A Drowned Kernel (1): Swowl
Calamitas (1): scolapasta
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WestCoastDidds (3): 2.71828....., yuma, Joseph2302

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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends May 24, 2020, 06:00:00 am, which is in ~7 hours.

This is probably my last vote count for this in-game day and I have no idea where faust is, so here's my fair warning.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #321 on: May 23, 2020, 11:21:40 pm »

We regret to inform you that mail-mi will not be awake for deadline, but he will leave with a vote: WCD as a better alternative than Joseph.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #322 on: May 23, 2020, 11:29:39 pm »

This is a terrible idea.  I am town, and me getting lynched will start us off in the hole.

It may not be Joseph, but it sure as heck isn't me, and this last day pivot toward me with ZERO ARTICULATED REASON reeks of scumminess. 

I am heading to bed.  You can trust me or not, but remember all of this was started less than 7 hours ago.  The only way a wagon builds that fast and lands a town mislynch is a heap 'o scum joining in.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #323 on: May 23, 2020, 11:38:57 pm »

This is a terrible idea.  I am town, and me getting lynched will start us off in the hole.

It may not be Joseph, but it sure as heck isn't me, and this last day pivot toward me with ZERO ARTICULATED REASON reeks of scumminess. 

I am heading to bed.  You can trust me or not, but remember all of this was started less than 7 hours ago.  The only way a wagon builds that fast and lands a town mislynch is a heap 'o scum joining in.

WCD is town. vote: scola
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #324 on: May 24, 2020, 12:06:01 am »

My guess is it's too late to get mail-mi going, but:

We regret to inform you that mail-mi will not be awake for deadline, but he will leave with a vote: WCD as a better alternative than Joseph.

followed less than 20 minutes later by this:

This is a terrible idea.  I am town, and me getting lynched will start us off in the hole.

It may not be Joseph, but it sure as heck isn't me, and this last day pivot toward me with ZERO ARTICULATED REASON reeks of scumminess. 

I am heading to bed.  You can trust me or not, but remember all of this was started less than 7 hours ago.  The only way a wagon builds that fast and lands a town mislynch is a heap 'o scum joining in.

WCD is town. vote: scola

I already thought the customer service gimmick was a sign, so

vote: mail-mi

(and I would be doing this if he had switched to someone other than me, that is not the reason)

I'm up for a little while, so will check in before going to bed.
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