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[Swowl]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

[scolapasta]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

Someday, you'll have to explain "swowl" to me.

Current vote is not RVS. (That was my initial Joseph vote). I think my current vote is at Calamitas? For the L-2 Shennanigans. That said I could probably be swayed towards Joseph. Or maybe even mail-mi (while I am highly enjoying his customer service, he didn't accept my pressing "5" I wonder if it could be a smokescreen. In that, we wouldn't lynch him, just for the cleverness?)

[Joseph2302]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

I don't think we've played before. I'm always town and usually mislynched

[Dylan32]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

I don't think we've played before. I'm always town and usually mislynched

Swowl = DatSwan. Username change, not player change.

[Joseph2302]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

I don't think we've played before. I'm always town and usually mislynched

Swowl = DatSwan. Username change, not player change.

Oh okay. They renamed their account? Or just using a diffferent account?

[Swowl]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

I don't think we've played before. I'm always town and usually mislynched

Swowl = DatSwan. Username change, not player change.

Oh okay. They renamed their account? Or just using a diffferent account?

Renamed. Asked between games and then it took effect. This is DatSwan.

[Joseph2302]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

I don't think we've played before. I'm always town and usually mislynched

Swowl = DatSwan. Username change, not player change.

Oh okay. They renamed their account? Or just using a diffferent account?

Renamed. Asked between games and then it took effect. This is DatSwan.

Fair enough

In which case, you'll know by now that I'm good and always get mislynched. Especially if it's 2016 again

[WestCoastDidds]

Someday, you'll have to explain "swowl" to me.

Scola, someday when you are bored, go read http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=19482.0 It is hysterical (although I highly recommend drinking if you want it to be really funny) especially when you get to the owl memes.  A Swowl was born out of sheer awesomeness

[WestCoastDidds]

Alright, there is a distinct lack of yuma and e in this game.

Dudes, what's up?

[Swowl]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

I don't think we've played before. I'm always town and usually mislynched

Swowl = DatSwan. Username change, not player change.

Oh okay. They renamed their account? Or just using a diffferent account?

Renamed. Asked between games and then it took effect. This is DatSwan.

Fair enough

In which case, you'll know by now that I'm good and always get mislynched. Especially if it's 2016 again

I mean except last game right?
But unlike last game, I do not see a whole hell of a lot of a reason why you stand out today.

[WestCoastDidds]

Alight, bird man. I wouldn’t say Joseph is particularly scummy, so fair enough.

But then who is? We can’t seem to get going at all, and a big chunk of players aren’t coming around or saying much at all.

Kind of makes me miss MiX.

[Dylan32]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

I don't think we've played before. I'm always town and usually mislynched

Swowl = DatSwan. Username change, not player change.

Oh okay. They renamed their account? Or just using a diffferent account?

Renamed. Asked between games and then it took effect. This is DatSwan.

Fair enough

In which case, you'll know by now that I'm good and always get mislynched. Especially if it's 2016 again

I mean except last game right?
But unlike last game, I do not see a whole hell of a lot of a reason why you stand out today.

I agree, I don't really think what Joseph did was scummy. I know I'm not the first to say this, but I'm more inclined to look at the people that are most focused on him instead.

ppe 1

[Swowl]

Alight, bird man. I wouldn’t say Joseph is particularly scummy, so fair enough.

But then who is? We can’t seem to get going at all, and a big chunk of players aren’t coming around or saying much at all.

Kind of makes me miss MiX.

yeah I mean I openly admit my Day 1 ability to make cases is lacking unless something seriously pops up. Right now, the only thing that pops up is what I said before - I am suspicious of the people that pushed Joseph for something that I do not find skummy.
That was pretty much [you,ADK, and whoever started and then bailed].
I am literally, not figuratively, incapable of skum reading you ever... so yeah ADK is where I am at.

I also generally just tend to lean against any quick to start wagons on Day 1. I normally find they are either skum driven, or they are town and skum plants themselves elsewhere - so I like to look at the outliers.

[Dylan32]

So earlier I thought scum likely helped build momentum for the scola wagon, and I think scum would be likely to be pushing for Joseph to some extent. The pool of people who were in both those sets are ADK and LL.  I would vote for either equally, but for now since I don't think I've ever played with ADK, Vote: LL.

[WestCoastDidds]

Alight, bird man. I wouldn’t say Joseph is particularly scummy, so fair enough.

But then who is? We can’t seem to get going at all, and a big chunk of players aren’t coming around or saying much at all.

Kind of makes me miss MiX.

yeah I mean I openly admit my Day 1 ability to make cases is lacking unless something seriously pops up. Right now, the only thing that pops up is what I said before - I am suspicious of the people that pushed Joseph for something that I do not find skummy.
That was pretty much [you,ADK, and whoever started and then bailed].
I am literally, not figuratively, incapable of skum reading you ever... so yeah ADK is where I am at.

I also generally just tend to lean against any quick to start wagons on Day 1. I normally find they are either skum driven, or they are town and skum plants themselves elsewhere - so I like to look at the outliers.

I don't think ADK is the worst call, just not super inspired.  But maybe inspiration is too much to ask for right now.

The scola wagon is much more robust than the Jospeh one.  I haven't been pushing...it was kind of an "eh" vote that never changed. Oddly, yuma has a post a few back saying let's lynch Joseph but isn't voting there. Wagoneering without commitment...hmmm...

vote: yuma

[yuma]

this game is weirdely slow

We could lynch Joseph

Yes.

But you aren't voting for him...

Oh....

[yuma]

You are right.

vote: joseph

[yuma]

Alright, there is a distinct lack of yuma and e in this game.

Dudes, what's up?

I am here! I pointed out why joseph was actually scummy then everyone ran away from it. Including me. mail-mi shenanigans distracted me.

But otherwise I haven't been here. Work has been a bit. But that should be mostly over by Tuesday.

[yuma]

Alight, bird man. I wouldn’t say Joseph is particularly scummy, so fair enough.

But then who is? We can’t seem to get going at all, and a big chunk of players aren’t coming around or saying much at all.

Kind of makes me miss MiX.

yeah I mean I openly admit my Day 1 ability to make cases is lacking unless something seriously pops up. Right now, the only thing that pops up is what I said before - I am suspicious of the people that pushed Joseph for something that I do not find skummy.
That was pretty much [you,ADK, and whoever started and then bailed].
I am literally, not figuratively, incapable of skum reading you ever... so yeah ADK is where I am at.

I also generally just tend to lean against any quick to start wagons on Day 1. I normally find they are either skum driven, or they are town and skum plants themselves elsewhere - so I like to look at the outliers.

I don't think ADK is the worst call, just not super inspired.  But maybe inspiration is too much to ask for right now.

The scola wagon is much more robust than the Jospeh one.  I haven't been pushing...it was kind of an "eh" vote that never changed. Oddly, yuma has a post a few back saying let's lynch Joseph but isn't voting there. Wagoneering without commitment...hmmm...

vote: yuma

Sad face

[LaLight]

So earlier I thought scum likely helped build momentum for the scola wagon, and I think scum would be likely to be pushing for Joseph to some extent. The pool of people who were in both those sets are ADK and LL.  I would vote for either equally, but for now since I don't think I've ever played with ADK, Vote: LL.

oh no, you don't, vote: Dylan

[LaLight]

i think that scum actively ignores Joseph wagon, as it doesn't build as fast as it could have.

I'll return to vote: Joseph

[LaLight]

@ scolapasta -
you have any reads or avenues you like at this point?
your current vote is RVS or no?
you also played the last M game with Joseph, and he was skum then. How you feel about Joseph now?

I don't think we've played before. I'm always town and usually mislynched

Swowl = DatSwan. Username change, not player change.

Oh okay. They renamed their account? Or just using a diffferent account?

Renamed. Asked between games and then it took effect. This is DatSwan.

Fair enough

In which case, you'll know by now that I'm good and always get mislynched. Especially if it's 2016 again

also wrong. you have been scum, what, 2 out of three last games? and in neither you were mislynched

[Dylan32]

i think that scum actively ignores Joseph wagon, as it doesn't build as fast as it could have.

I'll return to vote: Joseph

I'll admit, that's an interesting point. Is there anyone who jumped on the scola wagon but has totally ignored the Joseph wagon? And I do mean ignored, not stood against it like llama, some bird, and me.  Because you could have a point that if scum did jump on a big wagon like scola's quickly and without much support earlier, they might be a bit more hesitant to jump on the next wagon that builds, but they wouldn't want to vocally oppose it in order to keep the door open to join it later or hammer at EoD.

[Dylan32]

LL, I'll unvote for that. Not because it made you townier, but because that might have been a good point.

[Dylan32]

i think that scum actively ignores Joseph wagon, as it doesn't build as fast as it could have.

I'll return to vote: Joseph

I'll admit, that's an interesting point. Is there anyone who jumped on the scola wagon but has totally ignored the Joseph wagon? And I do mean ignored, not stood against it like llama, some bird, and me.  Because you could have a point that if scum did jump on a big wagon like scola's quickly and without much support earlier, they might be a bit more hesitant to jump on the next wagon that builds, but they wouldn't want to vocally oppose it in order to keep the door open to join it later or hammer at EoD.

Further, if I happen to be right, it doesn't imply Joseph is scum. It just means scum didn't want to look too eager to jump from fast growing L-1 reaching wagon to the next fastest growing wagon, so voting Joseph doesn't necessarily follow from the idea of scum ignoring his wagon unless you think it's motivated more by avoiding a wagon on a partner than avoiding looking scummy.