OK, still on reread, but time to post some thoughts based on the questions I've asked:
1st. Agreed sudgy was towny, I do think I was as well, so why choose him or me, or over the probably town!sailor or town!PR? I guess maybe getting rid of towny makes sense, but (and here's where my experience might come in), I could also see wanting to get rid of roles that could hurt you. That said the ropeless sailor might not be that dangerous (and a good candidate for them to direct a mislynch) but getting rid of eevee could be useful to them. (on the assumption that eevee is town).
But they preferred a GT instead, and sudgy over me. Why? Get rid of him and try to ignore everything he said there at the end. (i.e. no one has brought up what we think of his assertion of faust and ADK as scum)
I agree we just still probably decide between mail-mi and skip*. Though the challenge with that is that's it's 50-50. But maybe at this point 50-50 is our best shot? I had been thinking leaning more towards skip, but the scum starting with both codebook / notebook is a con against that. I do have a question out to Gloobie about that, but don't expect an answer today, since he said he'd be busy.
* i've been wanting this 1v1 since Day 1, but never was able to get traction any day, so would invariably switch to something else, unfortunately always incorrectly.
The part I'm trying to wrap my head around is eevee's role (and what I've been asking those questions):
I'm a town aligned apprentice treasure hunter, however if the treasure hunter dies, I will inherit their powers and win condition (unless it would make it impossible for me to win). I was tols nothing more, and all the info I've received about treasure hunters have come from joseph in this thread and joths flip.
Hey I also know the length of the rope, if that would that clear that I started with it for the people doubting that.
"If the treasure hunter dies" - the thing is, there's more than one treasure hunter. Not at the start of the game, sure, but joth flipped as converted treasure hunter. If that's true, then wouldn't eevee now be scum? It is a big difference between "a" and "the".
Then there's joth's gambit, of Joseph join us. That would only work if there were 4 scum yesterday. But if so, there would be 3 now just need one town to vote for a town and the rest could pile on and win the game. And there have been many different votes today.
I think the key is understanding the owl. And faust has the opportunity to pass on either notebook or codebook to someone and kept it to himself. And the way to pass to a GT is to pass to someone else first, then both pass to GT on same night; faust is an experienced player to have seen that option.
So one of mail-mi / skip (but which). faust. and then is there a 3rd? is eevee now scum? All that is were I'm at.
So while I would be ok with one of the sailors @ 50/50, I think faust is more guaranteed tonight. And maybe we cna somehow get something more about the sailors in the meanwhile.
vote: faustOK, also faust has me high on his list, but I mean why would I hammer yesterday, when I did? Why not at least wait to see if something would change and, if looking for town cred, hammer later?
While I honestly don't see how you'd think I'm scum, even if there's some doubt, how I',m the most likely scum? That's just faust trying to get rid of another GT.
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Topic: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Game Over, Scum and Treasure Hunter win!) (Read 196545 times)