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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2020, 09:11:15 pm »
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Action-Attack ($6)


+$3


Each other player gains 2 coppers onto their deck
Play 3 per turn and your opponent can't do anything. And coppers run out so much slower than curses.
I wouldn't call a guaranteed 5$/turn "not doing anything"

No, but if you can consistently play 3 a turn, then you are guaranteeing that you can get at least a turn (Province every time) and that they can get no more than a turn (Duchy every time). You can double their , and they have no control over it. You might as well replace them with a bot that buys a Duchy every turn, because that's their only (slim) hope at winning. They have no control, and in that sense they can do nothing.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2020, 03:51:36 pm »
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I actually am curious how you play this.  It's actually sort of a finesse card and do you buy one for $3 on first shuffle?  I don't know!  On the surface it's sort of like Stockpile, but the differences are actually quite huge after thinking about it for a minute.  If you cycle them, then they end up just being a Silver that eventually vanishes.  Which might be good!

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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2020, 04:46:52 pm »
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Trash your hand.  +1 Coffer per card.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2020, 06:00:15 pm »
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2020, 06:11:46 pm »
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Way of the Slime
Return this and a card with the same name from your hand to the Supply. Gain a card costing double this cards cost in $.

You may... If you did...
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2020, 07:23:09 pm »
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I actually am curious how you play this.  It's actually sort of a finesse card and do you buy one for $3 on first shuffle?  I don't know!  On the surface it's sort of like Stockpile, but the differences are actually quite huge after thinking about it for a minute.  If you cycle them, then they end up just being a Silver that eventually vanishes.  Which might be good!

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The concern here is that it's basically a slightly worse Stockpile.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2020, 07:32:28 pm »
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I actually am curious how you play this.  It's actually sort of a finesse card and do you buy one for $3 on first shuffle?  I don't know!  On the surface it's sort of like Stockpile, but the differences are actually quite huge after thinking about it for a minute.  If you cycle them, then they end up just being a Silver that eventually vanishes.  Which might be good!

Black Lotus
Treasure
Cost: $1

+1 Buy
+$3
Trash this card
The concern here is that it's basically a slightly worse Stockpile.

Maybe it's a Silver that eventually turns into a Gold the last time you play it.  Or it's a really cheap one-shot Stockpile.  Or something in between.  The main problem to me is that if you don't have an extra Buy already, it's mostly Case 1 and maybe you don't get chances to do other things with it.  And maybe you paid $3 for it.  But if Silver is bad, then maybe having it vanish is good for that reason alone.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2020, 08:14:14 am »
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Way of the Slime
Return this and a card with the same name from your hand to the Supply. Gain a card costing double this cards cost in $.

You may... If you did...

And make it "up to double this card's cost" - otherwise it can never be used on cards costing $5+.

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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2020, 09:15:15 am »
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Way of the Slime
Return this and a card with the same name from your hand to the Supply. Gain a card costing double this cards cost in $.

You may... If you did...

And make it "up to double this card's cost" - otherwise it can never be used on cards costing $5+.

nope. strictly double. no odd valued gains.

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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2020, 12:25:56 pm »
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Way of the Slime
Return this and a card with the same name from your hand to the Supply. Gain a card costing double this cards cost in $.

You may... If you did...

If I'm reading this correctly, all Ways naturally imply "You may" just by being a Way, so that wording isn't necessary. Also, why do Way of the Butterfly and Way of the Rat say "You may...?"
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2020, 12:36:30 pm »
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Way of the Slime
Return this and a card with the same name from your hand to the Supply. Gain a card costing double this cards cost in $.

You may... If you did...

If I'm reading this correctly, all Ways naturally imply "You may" just by being a Way, so that wording isn't necessary. Also, why do Way of the Butterfly and Way of the Rat say "You may...?"

Most cards that depend on having a card or type in hand are either optional, or ask you to prove you can't follow the instructions.  This isn't about it being a Way or not, this is after you make the choice to invoke Way of Slime:

You may return this and a card with the same name from your hand to the Supply. If you did, gain a card costing double this cards cost in $.

If it's not optional, then the other player doesn't know that you chose not to even though you could.  And I think returning the copy in play should be prevented if the other copy doesn't exist.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2020, 01:26:27 pm »
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You know what.  I can't help it.  I love the Stonks.


Stonks
Treasure
Cost: $7

+1 Buy
Roll a D8.  If you roll above your Stonks total, take a Stonks token.  Otherwise, lose a Stonks token.
+$1 per Stonks token
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2020, 01:11:54 pm »
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Not a fully-formed card idea, but a thought that just occurred to me:

Is there any reason a Reaction of the form "Directly after another player finishes playing an Attack card, you may..." wouldn't work, or would be a bad idea?
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2020, 02:11:37 pm »
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Not a fully-formed card idea, but a thought that just occurred to me:

Is there any reason a Reaction of the form "Directly after another player finishes playing an Attack card, you may..." wouldn't work, or would be a bad idea?

One time Donald said something to the effect that if "attack reflection" is too strong, then it effectively removes the Attack from the board.  And then the attack reflection removes itself from the board, since the attack is no longer viable.

This also depends on how good the cards are aside from the attack and reaction.  Sheepdog and Caravan Guard exist and sometimes/explicitly respond to attacks.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2020, 02:13:35 pm »
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The reaction could be something like "trash a card from your hand", though, and that's not a reflection.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2020, 02:19:54 pm »
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So this is my first card idea I'm posting. I wanted to put it in "really bad card ideas" for being off-theme. But I like what it actually does too much.



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Quarantine - 4 Cost - Action/Attack/Duration

You may trash a card from your hand. Until your next turn, another player may not trash cards or gain cards from the trash. At the start of your next turn, +2 Coin.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2020, 02:24:50 pm »
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The reaction could be something like "trash a card from your hand", though, and that's not a reflection.

Yeah, I think Donald's argument is good to the extent that the reaction is strong and depends on the choices of other players.  Trashing one card when the attack is played would kind of erase Militia in the early game, and then erase itself, unless playing the action also trashed a card; it would fail very badly here if the reaction goes after resolving the entire attack, though.  This reaction really wants to reduce your handsize before you start discarding.

To counter Torturer, the same effect would have to wait until the Attack fully resolved to be strong.

You could call it Informant or something.  X-D
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2020, 04:50:35 pm »
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Thought of a card for this last weekly contest right after the results were posted:

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Stallion
$7* - Action
+2 Cards.
+1 Action.
Gain a Horse.
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In games using this at the start of your buy phase, you may reveal and discard the top three cards of your deck. Until the end of your turn, this costs $1 less for each treasure card revealed.
I'd like to make the bottom half less wordy. any ideas?

and a bonus blue dog
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Junkyard Dog
$3 - Action
+2 Cards.
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When you trash a card, you may play this from your hand.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2020, 09:48:49 am »
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The reaction could be something like "trash a card from your hand", though, and that's not a reflection.

Oooh, yes. How about:

Deacon
$2 - Action Reaction

+1 Card
Trash a card from your hand
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Directly after another player finishes playing an Attack card, you may play this from your hand.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2020, 03:43:19 pm »
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Way

Exile a Curse from the Supply and a card from your hand.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2020, 02:58:01 am »
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This one's a play on the "Advisor" theme, but I actually like it.  I added a card cost clause to it because I suspect it's more interesting and balanced on more boards with it than without.  For example, if it's only able to target $4 or $5 actions, this can be huge, but maybe there's a really awkward Explorer or Trading Post on the board.  Usually it would just hit another $3, but at least there aren't any boards where it's a $2 action or worse, Ruins.  Might even work with cost reduction on other boards now.

Supervisor
Action-Command
$3

The player to your left chooses a non-Command Action card from the Supply costing at least $3.  Play it, leaving it there.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2020, 08:25:22 am »
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This one's a play on the "Advisor" theme, but I actually like it.  I added a card cost clause to it because I suspect it's more interesting and balanced on more boards with it than without.  For example, if it's only able to target $4 or $5 actions, this can be huge, but maybe there's a really awkward Explorer or Trading Post on the board.  Usually it would just hit another $3, but at least there aren't any boards where it's a $2 action or worse, Ruins.  Might even work with cost reduction on other boards now.

Supervisor
Action-Command
$3

The player to your left chooses a non-Command Action card from the Supply costing at least $3.  Play it, leaving it there.
The main issue is with forced trashers, i.e. Remake, which means this can be very harmful on certain boards, or just dead.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2020, 08:27:23 am »
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This one's a play on the "Advisor" theme, but I actually like it.  I added a card cost clause to it because I suspect it's more interesting and balanced on more boards with it than without.  For example, if it's only able to target $4 or $5 actions, this can be huge, but maybe there's a really awkward Explorer or Trading Post on the board.  Usually it would just hit another $3, but at least there aren't any boards where it's a $2 action or worse, Ruins.  Might even work with cost reduction on other boards now.

Supervisor
Action-Command
$3

The player to your left chooses a non-Command Action card from the Supply costing at least $3.  Play it, leaving it there.
The main issue is with forced trashers, i.e. Remake, which means this can be very harmful on certain boards, or just dead.

yeah, but remake itself can turn into a dead card after a while
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2020, 10:49:12 am »
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I guess Supervisor should cost $2.  Or it could cost $4 and play two differently-named Action cards.  Advisor draws two, so this is on-brand.
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Re: Actually Passable Card Ideas
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2020, 03:43:12 pm »
+1

Supervisor
Action-Command
$3

The player to your left chooses a non-Command Action card from the Supply costing at least $3.  Play it, leaving it there.

I use a card just like this except it costs $2 and has an on-gain effect.
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