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Re: Day Three's a Crowd
« Reply #625 on: April 25, 2020, 04:41:29 pm »

Day Four Start

By request, Day Four is beginning early. No one was killed in the night!

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Not Voting (8): MiX, Dylan32, WestCoastDidds, yuma, ashersky, LaLight, DatSwan, scolapasta

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day Four begins now and ends at 5 pm forum time May 2nd.

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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #626 on: April 25, 2020, 04:44:14 pm »

Vote: No lynch

Why did no one die?
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #627 on: April 25, 2020, 05:27:40 pm »

so. that's weird.

I have like just now re-read the set up yet again to make sure. And yeah, possible set ups were:
- Goon Goon GF with UB and 1 PR
- Goon Goon GF with no UB (M role) and 2 Masons.

There are some variants on Bulletproof and all that but that is where it has to be.

And then here is the thing.... like no one CC'd Dylan and Raptor yesterday. So there is a world I could potentially see VT!Dylan, given the time of the claim and how that all went down, faking that claim bc nk draw and yadda yadda.... but fuck that is way out there with no CC yesterday. No offense Dylan, not that you would not be capable of it, just that for anyone that would be a crazy af play.
So other than that, there are some other concepts I am not gonna bring up regarding dylan in which they are not 1 shot cop, but still town. Saving that for later. No point in stating it now.

But pretty much, if dylan is telling the truth about everything... then everything checks out and the only explaination for why there is no NK is because skum chose for there to be no NK.

Why would they do that?

Real Today - We have 8 alive. 1Skum-7Town
Today If they Killed - We have 7 alive. 1Skum-6Town

Real Tomorrow with Town lynch today and Town Death at night - 6 alive. 1Skum-5Town.
Real Tomorrow with No lynch today and Town Death at night - 7 alive. 1Skum-6Town.
***Tomorrow if they had killed last night, we lynch today, and they kill at night - 5 Alive. 1Skum-4Town.

*** This is the confusing thing. That is like... clearly the best play. I mean they can set up some gambit and try to like I guess paint Dylan up or something by not shooting yeah? But why. If they kill MIC!Dylan, go just 1 day without getting lynched, then kill again... they bring it to 1v4. Given how shitty of a game it is going for skum at this point, getting to win or go home is not like... bad at all.

The method of leaving people alive creates more influence from other players, which I guess skum would think they can use to their advantage or something, but to like what... if dylan is town then it just puts them in the same spot as they were before. So it could be a gambit to try to get us to lynch dylan. They also could of done this by killing like [Swan,Didds,MiX]... people that were on board for skum at all points.. and still would of gotten the NK.

So idk. It doesn't really make sense to me.

Glancing at the set up post, there doesn't seem to be the standard rule about nolynch/nokill 3 days in a row, but I don't see how that can be manipulated in skum's favor.
Maybe they just forgot?

IDK I am a little lost here.

MiX - have you already mathed out the No lynch thing? does that actually work for us somehow? I mean if they did not kill last night and we change nothing I do not see why they would alter the game plan tonight right?

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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #628 on: April 25, 2020, 05:29:33 pm »

no one has like.... any secret claims or anything right?
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #629 on: April 25, 2020, 05:32:15 pm »

Also, I have thought about it a bit and I think that it is essentially impossible for Dylan to be skum here. just FWIW
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #630 on: April 25, 2020, 05:32:29 pm »

ash/yuma you got anything to add?
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #631 on: April 25, 2020, 05:32:58 pm »

no one has like.... any secret claims or anything right?

If there is we win lol.

Scum wants to not kill, right? So if we no lynch they're forced to kill. So we no lynch.

Also my theory is they shot themselves with the bulletproof, cause that's super funny.

Also, I have thought about it a bit and I think that it is essentially impossible for Dylan to be skum here. just FWIW


Right and wrong at the same time.
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #632 on: April 25, 2020, 05:37:38 pm »

no one has like.... any secret claims or anything right?

If there is we win lol.

Scum wants to not kill, right? So if we no lynch they're forced to kill. So we no lynch.

Also my theory is they shot themselves with the bulletproof, cause that's super funny.

Also, I have thought about it a bit and I think that it is essentially impossible for Dylan to be skum here. just FWIW


Right and wrong at the same time.

agreed on the last part. just saying.
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #633 on: April 25, 2020, 05:39:27 pm »

MOD QUESTION - Does anything happen if we go the 3 days with no death in this game?
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #634 on: April 25, 2020, 05:49:14 pm »

basis behind my question for those that care - if the game never ends, we might as well lynch today.
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #635 on: April 25, 2020, 05:53:33 pm »

basis behind my question for those that care - if the game never ends, we might as well lynch today.

I would rather force scum to kill so the game ends than lynch now without a kill. I'm not giving scum what they want, are you?
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #636 on: April 25, 2020, 05:59:08 pm »

They couldnít have forgotten, right? Not with the early start. So, it was either no shot, or something happened.

If someone made something happen, they can come tell us, yeah? No reason to wait.

If scum decided not to shoot, Iím with MiX. Letís lynch someone. Even if we screw up, it narrows the pool and creates more possibilities for cracks up show.

Swan, your last comment/command before the night started was to lynch Ash next. You still feeling it?

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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #637 on: April 25, 2020, 06:01:02 pm »

They couldnít have forgotten, right? Not with the early start. So, it was either no shot, or something happened.

If someone made something happen, they can come tell us, yeah? No reason to wait.

If scum decided not to shoot, Iím with MiX. Letís lynch someone. Even if we screw up, it narrows the pool and creates more possibilities for cracks up show.

Swan, your last comment/command before the night started was to lynch Ash next. You still feeling it?

No, my suggestion is not lynching.
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Re: M126: Day Three's a Crowd
« Reply #638 on: April 25, 2020, 06:04:06 pm »

So this is only my 2nd game on here, but Didds seems to be posting a lot less than in the last game. And/or her posts are more terse. Any particular reason for that?

Good observation. Iím in a lot of gameís right now, though, and set up yíall is not my jam (it looks like my cat stepped on the keyboard TTTTMGFDYH) so I just chill until we turn back to things I can fruitfully participate in.

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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #639 on: April 25, 2020, 06:06:50 pm »

They couldnít have forgotten, right? Not with the early start. So, it was either no shot, or something happened.

If someone made something happen, they can come tell us, yeah? No reason to wait.

If scum decided not to shoot, Iím with Swan. Letís lynch someone. Even if we screw up, it narrows the pool and creates more possibilities for cracks up show.

Swan, your last comment/command before the night started was to lynch Ash next. You still feeling it?

No, my suggestion is not lynching.

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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #640 on: April 25, 2020, 06:14:26 pm »

Hey, here is some good news! A new, tiny shraerae arrived today!

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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #641 on: April 25, 2020, 06:39:55 pm »

congratz little Shraeye!!!
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #642 on: April 25, 2020, 06:40:53 pm »

also obvious note:

UB should claim right now.

There cannot be 2 masons to CC to make a field of 3, so there can only be a UB claim or a UB plus a CC. We either get an IC or we win the game if there is a CC.

UB should claim.
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #643 on: April 25, 2020, 06:42:40 pm »

hell skum could even claim fake mason partners with someone to make a 1v1 and and then there can be an additional UB claim - and we still win GTD.
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #644 on: April 25, 2020, 07:08:01 pm »

also obvious note:

UB should claim right now.

There cannot be 2 masons to CC to make a field of 3, so there can only be a UB claim or a UB plus a CC. We either get an IC or we win the game if there is a CC.

UB should claim.

Wrong, UB claims when there's 5 people alive, no more, no less. That's as far as we can wait for the UB to be an IC, and there's no reason to do so earlier.

Which is also why we no lynch today.
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #645 on: April 25, 2020, 07:41:40 pm »

I can only think of 2 reasons for a NK. One was mentioned already with the bulletproof shot or something. The other would be to try to make it look like PR shenanigans happened to make it look like I'm not really what I claimed. However, scum can't counterclaim me, because town wins with the 1v1 no matter which of us is lynched. I know there isn't, but if there were a town counter claim against me out there, they should 100% claim now and seal the win for town. Waiting and counterclaiming me later means you're scum no matter what.

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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #646 on: April 25, 2020, 07:43:45 pm »

Also congrats!
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #647 on: April 25, 2020, 07:57:44 pm »

I think I would be ok with no lynch if it makes sense today, but I do feel pretty confident that if we lynch yuma, ash, and MiX, we would find the 3rd scum and win.  If scum is outside of that set, then it would be one of the lurkiest scum games I've ever seen from LL or scola, but scola's town I think, and LL hasn't really been scummy, just not active.
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #648 on: April 25, 2020, 08:01:56 pm »

I think I would be ok with no lynch if it makes sense today, but I do feel pretty confident that if we lynch yuma, ash, and MiX, we would find the 3rd scum and win.  If scum is outside of that set, then it would be one of the lurkiest scum games I've ever seen from LL or scola, but scola's town I think, and LL hasn't really been scummy, just not active.

We can lynch us three after we no lynch.

What's the downside to no lynching?
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Re: M126: Day Four to Go
« Reply #649 on: April 25, 2020, 08:24:09 pm »

I think I would be ok with no lynch if it makes sense today, but I do feel pretty confident that if we lynch yuma, ash, and MiX, we would find the 3rd scum and win.  If scum is outside of that set, then it would be one of the lurkiest scum games I've ever seen from LL or scola, but scola's town I think, and LL hasn't really been scummy, just not active.

We can lynch us three after we no lynch.

What's the downside to no lynching?

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