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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #350 on: March 17, 2020, 03:14:12 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.

Another card-shaped thing that allows something other than 2/5 and 3/4 openings, since you can buy it in either, or both of your opening turns to add $2, although you'd probably need some good trashing to make that worthwhile
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #351 on: March 17, 2020, 04:28:04 am »
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Interesting one. Similar to cursed gold but more powerful. For example, it has +buy.

I'll totally open Altar/Sentry/Curse/Curse.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #352 on: March 17, 2020, 05:09:25 am »
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The +1 buy is only counteracting the fact hat you need a buy to get Desperation. And you can't "Throne" a Desperation.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #353 on: March 17, 2020, 05:46:39 am »
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Is the person on the art missing a hand?
I think they're just scratching their arse. Probably in desperation.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #354 on: March 17, 2020, 06:35:36 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.
Just like going to the supermarket!
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #355 on: March 17, 2020, 06:38:37 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.

Is the person on the art missing a hand?
I assume that's the cause of the desperation.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #356 on: March 17, 2020, 06:46:26 am »
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I bet the person is going to steal some fruit. Whatch their (remaining) hand.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #357 on: March 17, 2020, 08:11:26 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.

Is the person on the art missing a hand?
Looks like they've been caught stealing once before...
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #358 on: March 17, 2020, 08:49:39 am »
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In a kingdom with this, coven, and a good trasher, I can see myself getting this just to start trashing the exiled curses early
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #359 on: March 17, 2020, 09:44:32 am »
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #360 on: March 17, 2020, 10:11:06 am »
+1

Rules book is online :
http://riograndegames.com/Game/1350-Dominion-Menagerie

Needless to say, it contains all of the kingdom cards.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #361 on: March 17, 2020, 10:23:55 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.

Is the person on the art missing a hand?

Presumably the person is hiding some stolen fruit behind their back. Very appropriate art for the card imo.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #362 on: March 17, 2020, 10:32:47 am »
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Hmm. Way of the Rat says "You may discard a Treasure to gain a copy of this." But Desperation says "You may gain a Curse. If you do, +1 Buy and +$2."

Now, I happen to prefer the old "if you do" wording over the modern "to", so I'm hardly complaining, but I am left wondering why Menagerie isn't consistent, here.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #363 on: March 17, 2020, 10:34:50 am »
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Hmm. Way of the Rat says "You may discard a Treasure to gain a copy of this." But Desperation says "You may gain a Curse. If you do, +1 Buy and +$2."

Now, I happen to prefer the old "if you do" wording over the modern "to", so I'm hardly complaining, but I am left wondering why Menagerie isn't consistent, here.

because "+1 Buy and +$2" isn't a verb-y phrase the way "gain a copy" is?; altho i guess it could be phrased
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #364 on: March 17, 2020, 10:37:21 am »
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The flood gates have opened.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #365 on: March 17, 2020, 10:52:26 am »
+1

Does this mean it is releasing tomorrow?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #366 on: March 17, 2020, 10:59:37 am »
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Hmm. Way of the Rat says "You may discard a Treasure to gain a copy of this." But Desperation says "You may gain a Curse. If you do, +1 Buy and +$2."

Now, I happen to prefer the old "if you do" wording over the modern "to", so I'm hardly complaining, but I am left wondering why Menagerie isn't consistent, here.

The answer to any inconsistency in wording:

We may have talked about it but there's no real reason there. The cards try to be phrased well and are not all phrased at once.

I don't know if there was a reason. It got this wording and this wording seemed fine; the usual story when people want the story of the wording.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #367 on: March 17, 2020, 11:01:20 am »
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Hmm. Goatherd: "+1 Card per card the player to your right trashed on their last turn"

What if they trash the same card twice? What if you can't tell?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #368 on: March 17, 2020, 11:08:26 am »
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Hmm. Goatherd: "+1 Card per card the player to your right trashed on their last turn"

What if they trash the same card twice? What if you can't tell?

As far as I can tell, you cannot trash a card that is already trashed.
Or do you mean trashing a Fortress multiple times?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #369 on: March 17, 2020, 11:10:57 am »
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Fortress is just the most obvious case. The game also contains several ways to gain stuff from the trash.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #370 on: March 17, 2020, 11:13:40 am »
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Way of the (Royal) Seal made me laugh a little.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #371 on: March 17, 2020, 11:15:10 am »
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Hmm. Goatherd: "+1 Card per card the player to your right trashed on their last turn"

What if they trash the same card twice? What if you can't tell?

There are quite a few cards that require close tracking in this set - Invest is one I didn’t expect, now you have to have two separate pools of Exiled cards and keep track of them. In general it does feel more and more like the game is being written for online play (which I don’t mind at all!).
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #372 on: March 17, 2020, 11:18:03 am »
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Oh boy: Seize the Day!

That's going to set up a fascinating game of chicken as the Provinces run low.

How is one supposed to track it, though? Time to break out the Project cubes from Renaissance?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #373 on: March 17, 2020, 11:21:51 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.

Is the person on the art missing a hand?

I hope he just has his hand behind his back. Otherwise, we know one of the reasons why he is so desperate.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #374 on: March 17, 2020, 11:23:03 am »
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Typo in the rulebook; under the Way of the Mouse FAQ:

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Text below a dividing line
(other that setup) will not do anything.
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