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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #325 on: March 16, 2020, 08:38:53 am »
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I immediately see all sorts of broken combos with Capitalism

Well... yeah, Capitalism performs its intended functionality on this card, like it does with all the other cards that give +coin. I guess if you want to call that "all sorts of broken combos" then I can see it too.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #326 on: March 16, 2020, 09:06:42 am »
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Sweet, that's the trashing Attack with the Exile mechanic that I anticipated.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #327 on: March 16, 2020, 09:10:37 am »
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Eats like a Knight, eats Knights real good. Any way to get them back from Exile with the cards we've seen so far, or other unique name piles like Castles?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #328 on: March 16, 2020, 09:26:06 am »
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Not so far, but in general you'd be very happy if Castles could be Exiled for you.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #329 on: March 16, 2020, 09:26:47 am »
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That card is.... Interesting.


I immediately see all sorts of broken combos with Capitalism

What sort of combo are you thinking of? Cardinal becomes a treasure, so it's non-terminal, but that's not different than the way that it makes any other terminal coin better.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #330 on: March 16, 2020, 09:42:35 am »
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Given that a cardinal is a bird and that the expansion is about animals, did you intend this card to depict a bird but the artitst went his/her own way?
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Given the fact that religious cards are always trashing based, and Exile is similar to trashing, this is unlikely. Plus, Cardinal doesn't really sound like an attack.

There are numerous ecclesiastical cards in the game already, and all of them involve trashing - so Cardinal (in that sense) fits the bill. Great image as well, especially the cardinalís hat.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #331 on: March 16, 2020, 10:18:08 am »
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I would assume the other religious card, Sanctuary, uses the new Exile mechanic as well.

(What would a little red bird be about here anyway? That's not a relevant archetype like Owl or Falcon or whatever.)
To go in the Sanctuary, of course.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #332 on: March 16, 2020, 11:59:53 am »
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Artwork quibble: very few cardinals would have had a full beard in mediaeval times. Not many do, even now. It's not actually disallowed, it's just that they want to avoid looking Orthodox/Coptic.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #333 on: March 16, 2020, 01:04:28 pm »
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Given that a cardinal is a bird and that the expansion is about animals, did you intend this card to depict a bird but the artitst went his/her own way?
No. We have notes now on what the cards are supposed to depict, so that mistakes like that aren't made.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #334 on: March 16, 2020, 01:31:25 pm »
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Given that a cardinal is a bird and that the expansion is about animals, did you intend this card to depict a bird but the artitst went his/her own way?
No. We have notes now on what the cards are supposed to depict, so that mistakes like that aren't made.
I would assume you have final approval anyways, even if the artist had made that mistake, right?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #335 on: March 16, 2020, 03:00:43 pm »
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Artwork quibble: very few cardinals would have had a full beard in mediaeval times. Not many do, even now. It's not actually disallowed, it's just that they want to avoid looking Orthodox/Coptic.

Not true: 23 popes in a row from 1523-1700 had beards and a majority overall have done. It was only actually against canon law for a brief period in the 20th century.

I realise Dominion is probably set *slightly* prior to 1523, but plenty before that had them.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #336 on: March 16, 2020, 03:40:03 pm »
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I realise Dominion is probably set *slightly* prior to 1523, but plenty before that had them.

What about the man in the Library, he looks like he's dressing from the 19th century. And then in Empires you have Roman times. Dominion is the new Through the ages ;)
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #337 on: March 16, 2020, 03:45:12 pm »
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I realise Dominion is probably set *slightly* prior to 1523, but plenty before that had them.

What about the man in the Library, he looks like he's dressing from the 19th century. And then in Empires you have Roman times. Dominion is the new Through the ages ;)

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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #338 on: March 16, 2020, 04:44:55 pm »
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All the women travelers and the women half of the knight stack are very angry that Cardinal does not depict the average appearance for someone of that occupation from that time period.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #339 on: March 16, 2020, 07:23:02 pm »
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Given that a cardinal is a bird and that the expansion is about animals, did you intend this card to depict a bird but the artitst went his/her own way?
No. We have notes now on what the cards are supposed to depict, so that mistakes like that aren't made.
Who didnít make the notes about the five horse Stampede?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #340 on: March 16, 2020, 10:09:00 pm »
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Bonus Preview 4: Alliance

I guess it should be no surprise that some people wanted to see the teased cards; here's "province, a duchy":



You get all that stuff! You can't not take some of it.

Sorry if this was already asked, but say Estates are gone, can you still do an Alliance? Or do you have to be able to meet all of the requirements of the event in order to buy it?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #341 on: March 16, 2020, 10:12:30 pm »
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Bonus Preview 4: Alliance

I guess it should be no surprise that some people wanted to see the teased cards; here's "province, a duchy":



You get all that stuff! You can't not take some of it.

Sorry if this was already asked, but say Estates are gone, can you still do an Alliance? Or do you have to be able to meet all of the requirements of the event in order to buy it?

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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #342 on: March 16, 2020, 10:48:33 pm »
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Bonus Preview 4: Alliance

I guess it should be no surprise that some people wanted to see the teased cards; here's "province, a duchy":



You get all that stuff! You can't not take some of it.

Sorry if this was already asked, but say Estates are gone, can you still do an Alliance? Or do you have to be able to meet all of the requirements of the event in order to buy it?

The way that Dominion works is you follow a card's instructions from top to bottom, doing as much of it as you can. If there is something that you can't do, you just skip that part; the exception is if a card's instructions specify that some requirement must be met in order for the rest of the instructions to be carried out (look at Treasure Map for an example of a strict requirement; you only get the 4 golds if you actually trashed two Treasure Maps). Alliance has no requirements since it just states that you do things without some kind of "if" clause. To have Alliance be a requirement like you said, it would have to be worded something like "If the supply contains at least one of each of province, duchy, estate, copper, silver, and gold, then gain one of each of them."
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #343 on: March 16, 2020, 11:53:45 pm »
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I would assume you have final approval anyways, even if the artist had made that mistake, right?
Sometimes when a card is wrong I do get to say, and get it fixed. Sometimes we use the error because of the nature of it, e.g. it defies physics or history but no-one will care. For years I didn't see everything and so some stuff would just be a surprise on the cards.

For most companies I wouldn't expect to have any say on art; not my department. I might comment anyway if saw some, but you know. For example for Pina Pirata, I said, isn't this art too fiddly, and they said, what, you don't like it? And they used it and then you couldn't recognize the cards upside-down and they added icons and color-coding for later printings.

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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #344 on: March 16, 2020, 11:57:53 pm »
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Given that a cardinal is a bird and that the expansion is about animals, did you intend this card to depict a bird but the artitst went his/her own way?
No. We have notes now on what the cards are supposed to depict, so that mistakes like that aren't made.
Who didnít make the notes about the five horse Stampede?
Everyone? That sentence did not make much sense. Nevertheless I am betting you are looking for me to say, which I will, that I didn't think to mention the number of horses in the notes.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #345 on: March 16, 2020, 11:59:53 pm »
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Given that a cardinal is a bird and that the expansion is about animals, did you intend this card to depict a bird but the artitst went his/her own way?
No. We have notes now on what the cards are supposed to depict, so that mistakes like that aren't made.
Who didnít make the notes about the five horse Stampede?
Everyone? That sentence did not make much sense. Nevertheless I am betting you are looking for me to say, which I will, that I didn't think to mention the number of horses in the notes.

It still works with eight horses on the art.  You're able to capture 5 of them, but the other 3 get away
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #346 on: March 17, 2020, 03:00:42 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #347 on: March 17, 2020, 03:03:15 am »
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Well that looks like one Iíll get and hate myself for.
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« Reply #348 on: March 17, 2020, 03:08:46 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.

I like this way better than cursed gold. Not taking a spot in your deck meaning you can pick the turns when you want to use it makes it much more helpful and less swingy. I like events like these...they reward the skill of knowing when it's worth it to use them.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #349 on: March 17, 2020, 03:11:06 am »
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Bonus Preview 11: Desperation



It's the Event version of Cursed Gold. You can have more money, if you want it badly enough.

Is the person on the art missing a hand?
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