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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #275 on: March 14, 2020, 05:48:52 am »
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Enchantress is just a non-optional Way of the Pig, I guess.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #276 on: March 14, 2020, 10:59:31 am »
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Little known fact. Pigs actually like whey. I worked at a farm where we raised pigs and cows and made our own cheese. We would give the whey to the pigs in their food. So in that case, the pigs always found their own whey.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #277 on: March 14, 2020, 11:28:07 am »
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I thought about sheep and it seemed boring, then I thought about it some more and it still seemed boring, then I thought about it again and it seems fascinating.

Sheep makes it much easier to buy fewer Silvers, which can lead to a much more powerful engine deck  Even if there are 5$ that must must be gained early, you can buy engine components that aren't appropriate for the earlygame - even village- turn 1-2.
It also has interesting implications for BMU decks that user a treasure-gainer.  Most BMU decks based on a treasure gainer perform more poorly than ones based on card draw or an attack because the thing that they do is gain treasure, even during the phase of the game where nothing but green matters but they're still in your deck.  Sheep lets you decide the time for gaining golds or silvers has ended and it's only provinces now.  The +2 cards Way is even better for this (has one already been spoiled?  It seems sure that there's going to be one) but this one counts too.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #278 on: March 14, 2020, 11:54:24 am »
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Little known fact. Pigs actually like whey. I worked at a farm where we raised pigs and cows and made our own cheese. We would give the whey to the pigs in their food. So in that case, the pigs always found their own whey.

Ever since Ways were previewed, I've been wondering how long it would be before that pun occurd to someone.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #279 on: March 14, 2020, 12:04:14 pm »
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I'm glad Donald did two previews today. Way of the Pig by itself would have been... exactly what we were all expecting. A bit of an anticlimax. (-8
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #280 on: March 14, 2020, 12:16:13 pm »
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Regarding names, we could be fancy and use the specialist adjectival forms: "porcine X" when you play X using Way of the Pig, Similarly acrodontine, equine, talpine, bovine, murine, ovine, chelonian for the others thus far officially announced.

Trouble is, though vocabulary is pretty large I still had to look up a "acrodontine". Most dictionaries have never heard of it; it's barely a word!

I suppose we could misuse "sheepish" and "molar"?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #281 on: March 14, 2020, 01:24:02 pm »
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Hard to see when you would use Way of the Sheep. You would have to have basically drawn your deck with spare actions and a card-draw or Village in your hand that you donít need.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #282 on: March 14, 2020, 01:26:44 pm »
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I've not played using it yet, but popsofctown's observation makes sense: it's not a late-game thing; the difference it makes is in facilitating a better tempo to your early engine-building.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #283 on: March 14, 2020, 01:31:14 pm »
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Hard to see when you would use Way of the Sheep. You would have to have basically drawn your deck with spare actions and a card-draw or Village in your hand that you donít need.

I think the opposite. It will especially make opening with villages far more appealing. And it definitely makes component-spamming more viable. I mean, the scenario you described isn't terribly uncommon.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #284 on: March 14, 2020, 02:29:22 pm »
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Hard to see when you would use Way of the Sheep. You would have to have basically drawn your deck with spare actions and a card-draw or Village in your hand that you donít need.

I think the opposite. It will especially make opening with villages far more appealing. And it definitely makes component-spamming more viable. I mean, the scenario you described isn't terribly uncommon.
Plus having flexible virtual coin is a huge deal in draw-to-X engines.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #285 on: March 14, 2020, 06:20:27 pm »
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Hard to see when you would use Way of the Sheep. You would have to have basically drawn your deck with spare actions and a card-draw or Village in your hand that you donít need.

I think the opposite. It will especially make opening with villages far more appealing. And it definitely makes component-spamming more viable. I mean, the scenario you described isn't terribly uncommon.
Plus having flexible virtual coin is a huge deal in draw-to-X engines.
And with Necropolis you are guaranteed to open with $5.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #286 on: March 14, 2020, 06:36:56 pm »
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Hard to see when you would use Way of the Sheep. You would have to have basically drawn your deck with spare actions and a card-draw or Village in your hand that you donít need.

I think the opposite. It will especially make opening with villages far more appealing. And it definitely makes component-spamming more viable. I mean, the scenario you described isn't terribly uncommon.
Plus having flexible virtual coin is a huge deal in draw-to-X engines.
And with Necropolis you are guaranteed to open with $5.
And a chance of having $6 in one of your opening turns, if one of your hands is Necropolis + 4 coppers
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #287 on: March 14, 2020, 07:32:32 pm »
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Fair, I hadnít considered the upside of skipping silver especially. I was only thinking about midgame, when basically any action you bought should have a much stronger effect.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #288 on: March 15, 2020, 03:00:00 am »
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Bonus Preview 9: Stampede

Here's another teased card: "5 or fewer."



Sadly the art doesn't show 5 horses.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #289 on: March 15, 2020, 03:03:06 am »
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I mean, it does. It shows 5 horses, and also shows 3 more horses.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #290 on: March 15, 2020, 03:07:40 am »
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Bonus Preview 9: Stampede

Here's another teased card: "5 or fewer."



Sadly the art doesn't show 5 horses.

Could make for an interesting 5/2 opening.  Also useful if you have a dud hand, but you still have $5 worth of treasures, say, three Victory cards, a Silver, and a Gold
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #291 on: March 15, 2020, 03:18:47 am »
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It occurs to me that discard attacks would not play nicely with this event.  After cleanup, you'll have a hand of 5 Horses.  If you are able to play all five on your next hand, you'll effectively start with 10 cards.  On the other hand, if you have to discard down to 3 cards, then you'll only have six cards in hand after playing the remaining three Horses.  Minion would be especially cruel after buying Stampede
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #292 on: March 15, 2020, 04:09:48 am »
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5/2 with stampede turn 1 means you'll have 1 card costing up to 7$ after the first 2 turns rather than 2 cards costing up to 5$ and 2$, respectively. I'd go for it if there's altar or forge.

If you want 5/0 anyway, you can do it just for the hell of it.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #293 on: March 15, 2020, 04:26:55 am »
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Bonus Preview 9: Stampede

Here's another teased card: "5 or fewer."



Sadly the art doesn't show 5 horses.
Me: read card text, counted horses, shoulders fell, read your comment about number of horses, shoulders fell further
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #294 on: March 15, 2020, 04:28:36 am »
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5/2 with stampede turn 1 means you'll have 1 card costing up to 7$ after the first 2 turns rather than 2 cards costing up to 5$ and 2$, respectively. I'd go for it if there's altar or forge.

If you want 5/0 anyway, you can do it just for the hell of it.

With Windfall as the 2nd landscape, you could buy it and net 3 Golds.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #295 on: March 15, 2020, 05:32:38 am »
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I mean, it does. It shows 5 horses, and also shows 3 more horses.
Maybe there are 5 horses and 3 mares. Or something.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #296 on: March 15, 2020, 06:07:01 am »
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A stampede (noun) involves a large group, look it up.  I don't think 5 qualifies as a large group, so they pictured more.

I guess 5 happen to be what settles on top of your deck/kingdom to be experimented with

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Edit: Actually stampede is a verb too and that applies better here, since it's an Event.  Any number can stampede.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #297 on: March 15, 2020, 06:56:45 am »
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I don't think those back 3 really have their hearts in it.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #298 on: March 15, 2020, 07:58:14 am »
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5/2 with stampede turn 1 means [...]
If you want 5/0 anyway, you can do it just for the hell of it.
Not just for the hell of it: if you only want to spend $5, you get to keep one of the Horses for later.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #299 on: March 15, 2020, 07:59:53 am »
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Maybe there are 5 horses and 3 mares. Or something.
It's hard to gauge online whether or not you're joking. (Mares are horses; male horses are stallions or geldings.)
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