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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #225 on: March 12, 2020, 07:46:53 am »
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Also, is it my imagination or is Camel Train the sweetest support for Gardens in the whole game?

beggar tho
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #226 on: March 12, 2020, 07:59:58 am »
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Getting two exiled cards feels stronger than gaining 3 Coppers to hand? Especially since one of them can be from a pile the other players possibly wanted for their strategy and/or lets you three-pile quicker.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #227 on: March 12, 2020, 08:47:14 am »
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Feels like Workshop is better, because you can actually gain Gardens with it.  Eventually with Camel Train you'll need to figure out how you're going to consistently hit 4 while flooding with Gardens.

Beggar has that same advantage, flooding your deck with stuff and also helping you actually get Gardens.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #228 on: March 12, 2020, 10:06:24 am »
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that Camel Train is pretty crap with Gardens. You'll never get to unexile those Golds because you'll never hit $6. You'll struggle to hit $4 quickly.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #229 on: March 12, 2020, 10:23:25 am »
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^ that will almost certainly happen. Also, you only gain the second card if you buy camel train. Beggar gives you 3 cards every time you play it.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #230 on: March 12, 2020, 11:55:28 am »
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If I play Wishing Well and wish for a Caravan, will it also find a Camel Train? (Sorry, stupid joke.)

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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #231 on: March 12, 2020, 11:58:39 am »
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If I play Wishing Well and wish for a Caravan, will it also find a Camel Train? (Sorry, stupid joke.)

It was good until you ruined it with the parenthetical.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #232 on: March 12, 2020, 12:09:07 pm »
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One dilemma this card presents: Do you exile a card that you're likely to gain this shuffle, or do you speculatively exile a card that you'll gain in a future shuffle?

I guess the way I use Duplicate, I often let it sit on the mat through shuffles, to wait for a better card.  Camel Train seems even better for this purpose, as Camel Train will not skip shuffles.  So we may see a lot of exiling-for-later with Camel Train.  Looking forward to it.


Something I'd like to see in future bonus previews, are attacks, or otherwise interactive cards/landscapes.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #233 on: March 12, 2020, 12:09:27 pm »
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If I play Wishing Well and wish for a Caravan, will it also find a Camel Train? (Sorry, stupid joke.)

It was good until you ruined it with the parenthetical.

Jokes are always funnier after you explain them.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #234 on: March 12, 2020, 12:14:30 pm »
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If I play Wishing Well and wish for a Caravan, will it also find a Camel Train? (Sorry, stupid joke.)

It was good until you ruined it with the parenthetical.

Jokes are always funnier after you explain them.

Also, everybody takes my jokes seriously if I don't (like the one about Way of the Chameleon being zoologically exotic). But arguably that makes the joke funnier, because I actually seem like an idiot.

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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #235 on: March 13, 2020, 03:20:09 am »
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Bonus Preview 7: Way of the Horse



Everything's a Horse! Handy if there are actions you don't want anymore, or never wanted, or if you're desperate.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #236 on: March 13, 2020, 03:31:11 am »
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Bonus Preview 7: Way of the Horse



Everything's a Horse! Handy if there are actions you don't want anymore, or never wanted, or if you're desperate.
And suddenly Cultist becomes the worst card in the game.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #237 on: March 13, 2020, 03:38:48 am »
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Bonus Preview 7: Way of the Horse



Everything's a Horse! Handy if there are actions you don't want anymore, or never wanted, or if you're desperate.
And suddenly Cultist becomes the worst card in the game.

"Hey, thanks for the free Horses!"
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #238 on: March 13, 2020, 03:44:34 am »
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Bonus Preview 7: Way of the Horse



Everything's a Horse! Handy if there are actions you don't want anymore, or never wanted, or if you're desperate.
And suddenly Cultist becomes the worst card in the game.

Yes, in those 0.049 % of games they’re both included... Twice every 4 071 games.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #239 on: March 13, 2020, 03:47:42 am »
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Bonus Preview 7: Way of the Horse



Everything's a Horse! Handy if there are actions you don't want anymore, or never wanted, or if you're desperate.
And suddenly Cultist becomes the worst card in the game.

"Hey, thanks for the free Horses!"

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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #240 on: March 13, 2020, 03:59:48 am »
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Bonus Preview 7: Way of the Horse



Everything's a Horse! Handy if there are actions you don't want anymore, or never wanted, or if you're desperate.
And suddenly Cultist becomes the worst card in the game.

Yes, in those 0.049 % of games they’re both included... Twice every 4 071 games.

Oh, for sure it's gonna be rare.  Even the more general combination of Looter + Way of the Horse will be rare.  Still, it's a pretty funny interaction.  And also, Ruins become quite appealing to buy in the rare games with both Way of the Horse and at least one Looter
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #241 on: March 13, 2020, 04:03:34 am »
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Bonus Preview 7: Way of the Horse



Everything's a Horse! Handy if there are actions you don't want anymore, or never wanted, or if you're desperate.

In games with Shelters, you basically have a free Lab, since there's no pile for Necropolis to be returned to, so that would be pretty useful!
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #242 on: March 13, 2020, 04:20:06 am »
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Bonus Preview 7: Way of the Horse



Everything's a Horse! Handy if there are actions you don't want anymore, or never wanted, or if you're desperate.
And suddenly Cultist becomes the worst card in the game.
But at least you can get rid of it once you realize that!
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #243 on: March 13, 2020, 04:24:43 am »
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Feels like Workshop is better, because you can actually gain Gardens with it.  Eventually with Camel Train you'll need to figure out how you're going to consistently hit 4 while flooding with Gardens.

Beggar has that same advantage, flooding your deck with stuff and also helping you actually get Gardens.
Well, you aren't forced to keep every card exiled. You can start exiling silvers till a point you ready to go gardens(preferably just before a shuffle), then gain one silver and then your next shuffle is flooded with money to gain gardens, while you can start exiling gold to fight for provinces/duchies on lucky turns. So no - i think it is a good garden enabler.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #244 on: March 13, 2020, 04:53:50 am »
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Feels like Workshop is better, because you can actually gain Gardens with it.  Eventually with Camel Train you'll need to figure out how you're going to consistently hit 4 while flooding with Gardens.

Beggar has that same advantage, flooding your deck with stuff and also helping you actually get Gardens.
Well, you aren't forced to keep every card exiled. You can start exiling silvers till a point you ready to go gardens(preferably just before a shuffle), then gain one silver and then your next shuffle is flooded with money to gain gardens, while you can start exiling gold to fight for provinces/duchies on lucky turns. So no - i think it is a good garden enabler.
If you're playing a Gardens rush, the point when you're ready to go for Gardens should be like the third shuffle. The "flood" of Silvers at that point is like 2 at best.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #245 on: March 13, 2020, 05:20:37 am »
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Another interesting aspect of way of the horse is that it makes 3-piling much harder. Have a great deck but the game is about to end? Return some of your cards to the supply.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #246 on: March 13, 2020, 05:21:30 am »
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Also, I believe all cards out of the black market become labs?
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #247 on: March 13, 2020, 05:26:06 am »
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Also, I believe all cards out of the black market become labs?
Correct. Necropolis, Zombies, and Black Market cards have no pile to return to.
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Re: Menagerie Bonus Previews
« Reply #248 on: March 13, 2020, 05:34:14 am »
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can necromancer play cards from trash as Horses?
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« Reply #249 on: March 13, 2020, 06:06:45 am »
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can necromancer play cards from trash as Horses?

I’m not DXV, but why couldn’t you?
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