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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2020, 11:37:40 am »

Can you talk about your district neighbor's ranking order? Because it feels like you should just tell your partner about your ranking before submitting it (you can lie if you're scum, but you have no idea how lying helps you) and then everyone outs their neighbor's ranking when it's a good time to claim ranking order...and that feels against the spirit of the rules.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2020, 11:46:50 am »

Can you talk about your district neighbor's ranking order? Because it feels like you should just tell your partner about your ranking before submitting it (you can lie if you're scum, but you have no idea how lying helps you) and then everyone outs their neighbor's ranking when it's a good time to claim ranking order...and that feels against the spirit of the rules.

Sorry, no - all discussion on ranking order is disallowed. You will know only what you submitted and what your partner (if they share) says they plan on submitting, and that’s it. You will however be more than welcome to talk about the draft itself, draft order, item choices, etc and so on.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2020, 11:58:45 am »

Is it allowed to claim that your partner claimed their order to you?
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2020, 12:08:52 pm »

Is it allowed to claim that your partner claimed their order to you?

is it allowed to claim that your partner didn't claim their order to you?

yeah i can definitely see how this could be tough to police
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2020, 01:46:35 pm »

hi i love mafia and would like to play mafia
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2020, 01:49:52 pm »

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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2020, 02:00:21 pm »

hi i love mafia and would like to play mafia

Well, hello!  It's nice to have you. If you go make a post here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=24.0 then you wont have to keep doing the captcha thing.

Then go here to say that you'll play nicely with us http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=7695.0

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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2020, 09:19:06 am »

And what's the punishment?  At some point, it may be worth it to break the rule if it helps win the game.

(I assume that the mods don't want the discussion to happen because it could break/solve the setup.  Solving the setup could win the game for town, and then one town member doing that and then being punished -- even by modkill -- becomes worth it and probably MVP-worthy.)

Posting restrictions are hard.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2020, 11:55:22 am »

And what's the punishment?  At some point, it may be worth it to break the rule if it helps win the game.

(I assume that the mods don't want the discussion to happen because it could break/solve the setup.  Solving the setup could win the game for town, and then one town member doing that and then being punished -- even by modkill -- becomes worth it and probably MVP-worthy.)

Posting restrictions are hard.
To be fair though, the setup is probably only solvable if everyone claims, I don't think a single player intentionally breaking the rule would be worth it.

Plus, you can always make the punishment harder if you really don't wan't the rules broken. Didn't you modkill two people in Gravity Falls for what was essentially a violation of a posting restriction?
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2020, 02:41:30 pm »

Wait, no,

/out

I won't be able to maintain the posting minimum. Have fun y'all!
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2020, 03:29:52 pm »

i/n

Half in because I only play one at a time and I /inned for ash's game too. Whichever one starts first.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2020, 03:43:40 pm »

i/n

Half in because I only play one at a time and I /inned for ash's game too. Whichever one starts first.

My impression was that this one is first in the queue
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2020, 10:17:46 pm »

And what's the punishment?  At some point, it may be worth it to break the rule if it helps win the game.

(I assume that the mods don't want the discussion to happen because it could break/solve the setup.  Solving the setup could win the game for town, and then one town member doing that and then being punished -- even by modkill -- becomes worth it and probably MVP-worthy.)

Posting restrictions are hard.
To be fair though, the setup is probably only solvable if everyone claims, I don't think a single player intentionally breaking the rule would be worth it.

Plus, you can always make the punishment harder if you really don't wan't the rules broken. Didn't you modkill two people in Gravity Falls for what was essentially a violation of a posting restriction?


Our thoughts on this subject are as follows:

- Anybody intentionally breaking the stated rules, as they’re clearly understood, is violating the spirit of the Civility Pledge. MODs take a not insignificant amount of time to craft their games and INTENTIONALLY breaking their stated rules should be considered as a disrespect and insult to their effort. The purpose of the rules, as they’re stated, is clear. If there are any questions, Private messages to the MOD’s are perfectly acceptable.
- Ashersky is right. Any one, two, or even three players (possibly more) breaking the clearly stated rules would not break the game. It would be unfortunate, and a singular (per player) ModKill would suffice as punishment.
- The REASON this role exists is not actually to prevent Town from isolating scum, it’s to to prevent scum from identifying high roll PR’s without any real claiming. To this end, it significantly hurts scum more to break these rules than it does Town.

@ General questions regarding can you claim “if” your partner told you anything:

Yes, the rule is simply based on the specific discussion ordering itself. With that said, we wish to add an additional rule that I would’ve hoped didn’t need to be said:

THERE IS TO BE NO PREGAME PLANNING OF STRATEGIES BASED ON PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION.

If there are any other questions, we highly encourage PM’s to MODs, and not public discussion.

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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2020, 10:27:07 pm »

Gotta agree with Galz here all.
We didn’t just you know like toss it together last minute. We have reasons for the game choices we made.

What we hope to be kind of the 2 most fun elements of the game are unfortunately tied to the posting restriction. So it is not changing. All for healthy game building talk, but just in case anyone is thinking they actually have a chance of getting the rule removed - you do not :)
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2020, 01:16:24 am »

Here's what I think about the post restriction

Katniss x Peeta is the One True Pairing and nothing else matters
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2020, 09:20:29 am »

And what's the punishment?  At some point, it may be worth it to break the rule if it helps win the game.

(I assume that the mods don't want the discussion to happen because it could break/solve the setup.  Solving the setup could win the game for town, and then one town member doing that and then being punished -- even by modkill -- becomes worth it and probably MVP-worthy.)

Posting restrictions are hard.
To be fair though, the setup is probably only solvable if everyone claims, I don't think a single player intentionally breaking the rule would be worth it.

Plus, you can always make the punishment harder if you really don't wan't the rules broken. Didn't you modkill two people in Gravity Falls for what was essentially a violation of a posting restriction?

I didn't mod Gravity Falls.

I modkilled an entire faction and ended the game in Falling Skies 1 for basically a posting restriction.  I learned my lesson.

(To be fair, it was a specific rule to that faction and was a QT thing.)
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2020, 09:21:49 am »

Also, I mean, what Galz said.

Although...this brings back the Suarez handball argument I had with Voltaire so many years ago.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2020, 09:22:23 am »

i/n

Half in because I only play one at a time and I /inned for ash's game too. Whichever one starts first.

My impression was that this one is first in the queue

That is correct.  EFHW is full-in here and half-in there, I would say.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2020, 01:27:04 pm »

I didn't mod Gravity Falls.

I modkilled an entire faction and ended the game in Falling Skies 1 for basically a posting restriction.  I learned my lesson.

(To be fair, it was a specific rule to that faction and was a QT thing.)
Yeah fine something something show with "Fall" in it that I didn't watch.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 6 spots left!
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2020, 09:49:52 am »

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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 3 more spots!!!
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2020, 01:17:29 am »

So....3 more players?
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 3 more spots!!!
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2020, 08:06:27 am »

Joth?
Raerae?
Pubby?
Arishipshape?
Space?

Jimmmm....would Wings play with us here?
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 3 more spots!!!
« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2020, 09:58:03 am »

Joth told me he was taking a break. But I can talk to him...
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 3 more spots!!!
« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2020, 11:37:14 am »

Arishipshape?
Sorry, I'm not participating in this mafia. Too crazy complicated for my tastes. Just bastard levels of mafia made me not able to compute like, anything.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - 3 more spots!!!
« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2020, 11:59:55 am »

Arishipshape?
Sorry, I'm not participating in this mafia. Too crazy complicated for my tastes. Just bastard levels of mafia made me not able to compute like, anything.

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