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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #875 on: February 24, 2020, 05:15:53 pm »

I can claim; I'm a town vig

Shot Galz
Shot cayvie

Convenient.

Joseph, do things make sense now?
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #876 on: February 24, 2020, 05:59:18 pm »

I can claim; I'm a town vig

Shot Galz
Shot cayvie

Convenient.

Joseph, do things make sense now?
Nope
Raerae, you have anything to claim?

Also, I'm kind of assuming people trust me which is why they're letting me go last and call the shots
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #877 on: February 24, 2020, 06:15:23 pm »

Actually, the dead redirectors will probably have redirected people last night, which means I cannot ever be 100%. Oh well
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #878 on: February 24, 2020, 06:25:38 pm »

I can claim; I'm a town vig

Shot Galz
Shot cayvie

Convenient.

Joseph, do things make sense now?
Nope
Raerae, you have anything to claim?

Also, I'm kind of assuming people trust me which is why they're letting me go last and call the shots

I'd rather have you claim first, but you're someone that can make a claim order happen, unlike me, which is why I trust you more than I should.

If you trust raerae, you should claim first, right?
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #879 on: February 24, 2020, 08:50:24 pm »

I can claim; I'm a town vig

Shot Galz
Shot cayvie

Convenient.

Joseph, do things make sense now?
Nope
Raerae, you have anything to claim?

Also, I'm kind of assuming people trust me which is why they're letting me go last and call the shots
I don't really trust anyone, but if you're thinking things through clearly I think it's obvious I'm trustworthy at least.

You all can chew on that for a bit and I'll tell you why it's true in a bit
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #880 on: February 24, 2020, 08:59:29 pm »

I think it makes sense that you did make those shots. Whether that makes you trustworthy is seperate.

I'm probably missing something.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #881 on: February 24, 2020, 09:12:47 pm »

From what I know about life, raerae next, Joseph last makes sense.

Then I'll explain why I'm trustworthy.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #882 on: February 24, 2020, 10:40:02 pm »

From what I know about life, raerae next, Joseph last makes sense.

Then I'll explain why I'm trustworthy.

You let yesterday play out like it did and you expect anybody to think you're trustworthy? We lynched based on who killed Galz based on the apparently faulty information I had. Ffs.

I'll claim after my question is answered. Did anybody else have flavor with their role?
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #883 on: February 25, 2020, 02:24:08 am »


I'll claim after my question is answered. Did anybody else have flavor with their role?
I did not
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #884 on: February 25, 2020, 02:27:34 am »

I can claim; I'm a town vig

Shot Galz
Shot cayvie

Convenient.

Joseph, do things make sense now?
Nope
Raerae, you have anything to claim?

Also, I'm kind of assuming people trust me which is why they're letting me go last and call the shots

I'd rather have you claim first, but you're someone that can make a claim order happen, unlike me, which is why I trust you more than I should.

If you trust raerae, you should claim first, right?
I trust myself more. There's still a chance raerae is scum and I'm wrong to trust
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #885 on: February 25, 2020, 05:24:33 am »


I'll claim after my question is answered. Did anybody else have flavor with their role?
I did not

I also did not.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #886 on: February 25, 2020, 08:54:43 am »

That seems fairly telling.

I redirected cayvie to Galz then cayvie to Didds.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #887 on: February 25, 2020, 09:18:11 am »

That seems fairly telling.

I redirected cayvie to Galz then cayvie to Didds.
Good , looks like I'm right then about wanting to vote pubby

I redirected pubby to LL

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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #888 on: February 25, 2020, 09:21:41 am »

My result is inconsistent with pubby's claim
It is possible that a dead


But the combination of pubby's claim which is a role so different from anyone else, and my redirection makes me think pubby has to be scum

I'm guessing pubby knew they had been redirected as their NK hadn't been killed
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #889 on: February 25, 2020, 09:22:57 am »

FWIW, only reason I was waiting is because if someone were scum and claiming after me, they could have claimed they redirected onto pubby as a "safe" fakeclaim. Or onto LL, which I suspected someone might claim
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #890 on: February 25, 2020, 09:23:13 am »

Vote: pubby
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #891 on: February 25, 2020, 09:23:42 am »

Btw if pubby is actually the beer person, then the N2 beer will be with LL now
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #892 on: February 25, 2020, 10:25:55 am »

Doesn't explain the disappearance of the N1 beer though
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #893 on: February 25, 2020, 12:11:29 pm »

I can't tell if you're being vague on purpose. You're claiming that you redirected me to lalight, and this is proof that I'm scum?
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #894 on: February 25, 2020, 12:36:01 pm »

I can't tell if you're being vague on purpose. You're claiming that you redirected me to lalight, and this is proof that I'm scum?
Okay let me be clearer
I redirected you to LL and LL is dead. No other claimed redirections targeted LL
Thus it's almost certain that you have a targetting killing role
Which doesn't match your claim (which in itself is a confusing claim, as very odd role)
Ergo, I'm sure you're scum
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #895 on: February 25, 2020, 12:59:58 pm »

I can't tell if you're being vague on purpose. You're claiming that you redirected me to lalight, and this is proof that I'm scum?
Okay let me be clearer
I redirected you to LL and LL is dead. No other claimed redirections targeted LL
Thus it's almost certain that you have a targetting killing role
Which doesn't match your claim (which in itself is a confusing claim, as very odd role)
Ergo, I'm sure you're scum

That's a lot of conclusions in one post. Here's another:

shraeye shot someone, I redirected them to Glooble, and all 3 redirectors also redirected shraeye to each other sorta. If you believe raerae, and thus that cayvie couldn't redirect, it's possible scum did. Thus shraeye can be the one that NKd.

I can do more! For example:

Joseph/raerae/MiX shot someone, scum+Didds+Glooble redirected the NK to cayvie/LL/Didds, shraeye vigged cayvie, LL got pubby's drink.

There's more, but this is enough to rule your idea out as certain. I do think pubby's scum because I didn't get any drinks N1, and no one else claimed to get drinks, but that's far from guaranteed.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #896 on: February 25, 2020, 01:16:27 pm »

Okay, I think we have information today. Let's review the claims:

MiX: shraeye -> Glooble
Joseph: pubby -> LaLight
raerae: cayvie -> Didds
shraeye: vig cayvie
pubby: drink MiX

Assuming everyone's telling the truth:

Glooble died due to shraeye
LaLight got pubby's drink

And Didds/Glooble redirected shraeye while LaLight shot someone. So there doesn't even need to be any liars for this to make sense.

Next post is about yesterday's info, because shraeye being vig throws away everything...
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #897 on: February 25, 2020, 01:29:14 pm »

Yesterday's actions look like:

cayvie: raerae -> ari
Didds: pubby -> raerae
ari: Glooble -> raerae
Glooble: ?? -> ??

MiX: Glooble -> pubby
Joseph: Didds -> ari
raerae: cayvie -> Galzria

Resolving this, you get:

I redirect Glooble to pubby, so Glooble goes "pubby -> ???" now (assuming he didn't pick me)
Joseph redirects Didds to ari, so Didds goes "ari -> raerae" now
Didds redirects ari to raerae, so ari goes "raerae -> raerae" now
Glooble redirects pubby to ???, so ??? gets a drink

Then there's this:

cayvie: raerae -> ari
ari: raerae -> raerae
raerae: cayvie -> Galzria

Since they're all redirectors, it doesn't matter in what order things happen. Then shraeye shoots Galzria and the scum shot is doctored by Galzria or LL.

So...we don't have definitive information. On either front. This is worse than I thought.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #898 on: February 25, 2020, 02:48:30 pm »

Vote Count 3.2

shraeye (1): raerae
pubby (1): Joseph2302

Not Voting (3): MiX, shraeye, pubby

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Day 3 will end at 11AM FT on Monday, March 2.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #899 on: February 25, 2020, 05:53:29 pm »

I can't tell if you're being vague on purpose. You're claiming that you redirected me to lalight, and this is proof that I'm scum?
Okay let me be clearer
I redirected you to LL and LL is dead. No other claimed redirections targeted LL
Thus it's almost certain that you have a targetting killing role
Which doesn't match your claim (which in itself is a confusing claim, as very odd role)
Ergo, I'm sure you're scum

That's a lot of conclusions in one post. Here's another:

shraeye shot someone, I redirected them to Glooble, and all 3 redirectors also redirected shraeye to each other sorta. If you believe raerae, and thus that cayvie couldn't redirect, it's possible scum did. Thus shraeye can be the one that NKd.

I can do more! For example:

Joseph/raerae/MiX shot someone, scum+Didds+Glooble redirected the NK to cayvie/LL/Didds, shraeye vigged cayvie, LL got pubby's drink.

There's more, but this is enough to rule your idea out as certain. I do think pubby's scum because I didn't get any drinks N1, and no one else claimed to get drinks, but that's far from guaranteed.
The claim also
Drinks that nobody has received
I haven't played many BM games, but the theme here is redirection. Not throwing beers around
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