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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #375 on: February 14, 2020, 10:04:08 pm »

Awaclus (7):LaLight, Joseph2302, MiX, Glooble, WestCoastDidds, cayvie, shraeye

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Definitely some scum in the people who jumped later onto that wago

If pubby's scum, yes. If pubby's town, yes but only due to law of numbers. Also the wagon to be analyzed shouldn't include shraeye, he just hammered when pubby was no longer a viable lynch.

I don't understand this sentiment. Shraeye still hammered. Chose to lynch awa over a no lynch.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #376 on: February 14, 2020, 10:57:35 pm »

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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #377 on: February 15, 2020, 12:08:49 am »

Alright...here is something weird. Awaclus was a town redirector. I am a town redirector as well. If there are more of us, the night actions are pinging around like pinballs. Weird enough to be bastard?
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #378 on: February 15, 2020, 12:14:37 am »

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Oh no! We lynched awaclus and his spirit has possessed raerae!
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #379 on: February 15, 2020, 12:18:39 am »

Alright...here is something weird. Awaclus was a town redirector. I am a town redirector as well. If there are more of us, the night actions are pinging around like pinballs. Weird enough to be bastard?

I suspected something like this. From what I gathered from asking mail-mi, the way stacking redirections work in this game would actually make people's actions spray around; if multiple redirections target one player, then that player targets everyone they were redirected to.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #380 on: February 15, 2020, 12:21:35 am »

So if, say, you targeted raerae and made her target shraeye, and I targeted raerae and made her target arishipshape, raerae's action would target both shraeye and ari
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #381 on: February 15, 2020, 12:24:53 am »

Incidentally, a redirector targeting a redirector only changes the first person targeted, not the second.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #382 on: February 15, 2020, 12:31:12 am »

So if I'm a redirector and I give orders of "make raerae target arishipshape", and wcd gives orders of "make cayvie target shraeye" then that would change my orders to "make shraeye target arishipshape"
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #383 on: February 15, 2020, 02:47:46 am »

So if I'm a redirector and I give orders of "make raerae target arishipshape", and wcd gives orders of "make cayvie target shraeye" then that would change my orders to "make shraeye target arishipshape"

mail-mi, can you confirm?
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #384 on: February 15, 2020, 02:48:04 am »

also yeah, now something makes sense
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #385 on: February 15, 2020, 02:48:58 am »

that's very interesting
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #386 on: February 15, 2020, 02:49:52 am »

also yeah, now something makes sense

if i am correct there will be at least one other person who understands what i mean
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #387 on: February 15, 2020, 03:01:34 am »

So if I'm a redirector and I give orders of "make raerae target arishipshape", and wcd gives orders of "make cayvie target shraeye" then that would change my orders to "make shraeye target arishipshape"

mail-mi, can you confirm?

I can indeed.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #388 on: February 15, 2020, 03:05:43 am »

So if, say, you targeted raerae and made her target shraeye, and I targeted raerae and made her target arishipshape, raerae's action would target both shraeye and ari

mail-mi, sorry, can you confirm this one? that action doubles?
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #389 on: February 15, 2020, 03:51:02 am »

Alright...here is something weird. Awaclus was a town redirector. I am a town redirector as well. If there are more of us, the night actions are pinging around like pinballs. Weird enough to be bastard?
That was my theory on the setup, that there's just lots of redirectors
I'm also a redirector
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #390 on: February 15, 2020, 03:52:43 am »

Did anyone redirect into Galz? Because that would be useful information

I didn't
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #391 on: February 15, 2020, 04:03:40 am »

Did anyone redirect into Galz? Because that would be useful information

I didn't

nor did i.

(yes, i'm also a redirector, if that wasn't obvious)
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #392 on: February 15, 2020, 05:08:23 am »

I am not a redirector.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #393 on: February 15, 2020, 05:09:12 am »

i think i solved the setup, but I cannot share it for now
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #394 on: February 15, 2020, 05:10:09 am »

alright, i think i have a plan
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #395 on: February 15, 2020, 05:11:19 am »

ah, it won't work, sorry.

thinking about planning redirectors so we can deduce who's making a kill, but i am not sure yet
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #396 on: February 15, 2020, 07:10:41 am »

I think redirectors should stop claiming as we’re making it really easy for scum to find our remaining non-redirector roles by POE.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #397 on: February 15, 2020, 07:34:28 am »

Alright...here is something weird. Awaclus was a town redirector. I am a town redirector as well. If there are more of us, the night actions are pinging around like pinballs. Weird enough to be bastard?

Please don't claim out of the blue...you've lost because of this once, remember?

Anyway, mass redirectors is not what I expected, but this still says that everyone has a night action probably, which was my own read on the setup. This is independent of my own personal PR.

Did anyone redirect into Galz? Because that would be useful information

I didn't

This should be claimed, nothing else should be claimed right now. I think. Based on public information, at least. But I don't think this reveal changed anything: whoever redirected into Galzria should've said this regardless, if it happened at all.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #398 on: February 15, 2020, 07:36:14 am »

Redirector claims: Didds, cayvie, Joseph

Non-redirector claims: LaLight

No claims: MiX, shraeye, raerae, ari, pubby, Glooble


Just to be organized.
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Re: BM29: Bud Idea Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #399 on: February 15, 2020, 07:37:14 am »

Redirector claims: Didds, cayvie, Joseph

Non-redirector claims: LaLight

No claims: MiX, shraeye, raerae, ari, pubby, Glooble


Just to be organized.

It's also possible that one of the redirector claims is lying, in which case cayvie would be most likely (as they claimed last)
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