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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #300 on: December 02, 2019, 08:01:56 pm »

Im super curious but I have a hard time seeing where speculating gets us. Why no one died last night is a piece of info that scum wants way more than town does. Let them speculate in their QT.

Also today was insane for me at work (Cyber Monday when you basically run an online store, yay!) so I should have more time the rest of the week.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #301 on: December 02, 2019, 08:05:25 pm »

Yeah, no nightkill is good business, and probably somebody knows exactly why, and I trust them to say it at the right time.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #302 on: December 02, 2019, 08:06:16 pm »

Im super curious about what happened last night but maybe its too early to share such things? I dont know but I feel like the stall is never any good for town, ya know?

What are you thinking would be fun?

Yeah, I don't know how to take it. I'd like to be hopefully and think somebody stopped a kill but I'm suspicious. I suppose we should lunch, seems like the popular thing to do.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #303 on: December 02, 2019, 08:14:42 pm »

Glooble, what is your online store??  It the week before finals for me so its a sea of stressful energy that rubs off on me!

Im not so much interested in speculating about why there was no night kill (I have a guess on that one), but Im curious about what kinds of cool things might have happened. Or anything else that might get us moving, really.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #304 on: December 02, 2019, 08:28:54 pm »

Glooble, what is your online store??  It the week before finals for me so its a sea of stressful energy that rubs off on me!

Im not so much interested in speculating about why there was no night kill (I have a guess on that one), but Im curious about what kinds of cool things might have happened. Or anything else that might get us moving, really.

I agree, I don't think now is the right time for protective roles to come forward but maybe if we've got a good cop result? Or we could just repeat RVS and see what happens.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #305 on: December 02, 2019, 10:37:48 pm »

joth sent me a prod. doing catch up right this moment.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #306 on: December 02, 2019, 10:59:20 pm »

There is not much to be gained from a VCA pov from this last day. As the flip was third party.

It should be noted that skum would be equally likely to be on an SK as a Town player, but the way the Glooble wagon went, I am not confident at all in say something like "Glooble was Skum so the wagon moved to Mail Mi" in defense.

With the SK down, I think it is most likely that skum targeted either Glooble or MiX after the claim and they were protected by someone.

I am gonna look into it more, but there isn't exactly a ton to go off of from my pov at this point.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #307 on: December 02, 2019, 11:04:11 pm »

There is not much to be gained from a VCA pov from this last day. As the flip was third party.

This is not true, as has been pointed out:

For scum it'a a mislynch, so there's meaningful VCAs.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #308 on: December 02, 2019, 11:06:36 pm »

I'm not sure why we're discussing the Night's events at all. Scum seems to often enjoy feigning ignorance over Night actions, but absent some kind of claimed result, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to guess.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #309 on: December 02, 2019, 11:07:31 pm »

There is not much to be gained from a VCA pov from this last day. As the flip was third party.

This is not true, as has been pointed out:

For scum it'a a mislynch, so there's meaningful VCAs.

I also said exactly that. I just disagree that it renders relevant VCA. SK being lynched vrs Town being lynched is the same thing when looking at it from the pov of Mafia.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #310 on: December 02, 2019, 11:09:17 pm »

How do you know that Glooble is town?
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #311 on: December 02, 2019, 11:09:37 pm »

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #312 on: December 02, 2019, 11:11:35 pm »

How do you know that Glooble is town?

I don't? That is why I said - quote - "I am not confident at all in say something like "Glooble was Skum so the wagon moved to Mail Mi" in defense."

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #313 on: December 02, 2019, 11:12:12 pm »

How do you know that Glooble is town?

Do you think he was speaking specifically? I read it as speaking generally.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #314 on: December 02, 2019, 11:13:17 pm »

joth sent me a prod. doing catch up right this moment.

Samsies - Raptor/Swan/Myself hosted Friendsgiving this weekend, so we were all rather busy.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #315 on: December 02, 2019, 11:14:15 pm »

quote should be in full so it reads right: "It should be noted that skum would be equally likely to be on an SK as a Town player, but the way the Glooble wagon went, I am not confident at all in say something like "Glooble was Skum so the wagon moved to Mail Mi" in defense."
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #316 on: December 02, 2019, 11:14:58 pm »

I typed like 3 sentences. How could you miss that?

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #317 on: December 02, 2019, 11:17:25 pm »

Alright, its getting late, lets do a final vote by show of hands. 1, 2, 3... 4, 5, 6... ok, that seems like enough, lets lynch mail-mi!

Immediately the kind and gregarious citizens of town have murder in their eyes. They descend on mail-mi and strongarm him to the noose.

No please, I dont even live here! he shouts. Im a commuter! I have a train to catch!

But the bloody knife that falls out of his jacket is enough to convince the town to carry on.

Vote Count 1.10

mail-mi (6): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, Awaclus, Glooble, Jimmmmm, MiX
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi
MiX (1): raerae

Not voting (1): DatSwan


With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

mail-mi has been lynched. He was an Enabled Commuter Serial Killer.

THREAD LOCKED

Because of the holiday, and also possibly just as the new norm going forward, night will last 48 hours rather than 24. Night actions will be accepted until I calculate them, but please get them in an hour before nights end to guarantee processing.



I dont think VCA is completely useless.

Glooble is either Town, or hes scum (or hes third party, but for this he would be considered Town):

If hes town, then scum literally didnt care where they were. On him, on Mail-Mi, not voting, whatever.

If hes scum though, then I would expect Mail-Mis wagon to be crawling with scum.

So really, I think without knowing Gloobles alignment at this time, the value in VCA comes from what you believe his alignment to be.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #318 on: December 02, 2019, 11:20:48 pm »

I'm not sure why we're discussing the Night's events at all. Scum seems to often enjoy feigning ignorance over Night actions, but absent some kind of claimed result, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to guess.

Who's guessing? I think we've all come up the same conclusion you just did.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #319 on: December 02, 2019, 11:22:48 pm »

I'm not sure why we're discussing the Night's events at all. Scum seems to often enjoy feigning ignorance over Night actions, but absent some kind of claimed result, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to guess.

Who's guessing? I think we've all come up the same conclusion you just did.

And catching up I see I'm wrong. In any case, I'm with you.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #320 on: December 02, 2019, 11:25:25 pm »

I'm not sure why we're discussing the Night's events at all. Scum seems to often enjoy feigning ignorance over Night actions, but absent some kind of claimed result, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to guess.

Who's guessing? I think we've all come up the same conclusion you just did.

My point was it doesn't need to be discussed at all at this stage. Although I supposed I only added to the discussion.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #321 on: December 02, 2019, 11:36:44 pm »

SK being lynched vrs Town being lynched is the same thing when looking at it from the pov of Mafia.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #322 on: December 02, 2019, 11:55:15 pm »

SK being lynched vrs Town being lynched is the same thing when looking at it from the pov of Mafia.

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #323 on: December 03, 2019, 05:57:42 am »

quote should be in full so it reads right: "It should be noted that skum would be equally likely to be on an SK as a Town player, but the way the Glooble wagon went, I am not confident at all in say something like "Glooble was Skum so the wagon moved to Mail Mi" in defense."

I think what we all want to know is, why do you think this? What about the Glooble wagons tells you that their alignment has no bearing in how the wagons moved?
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #324 on: December 03, 2019, 08:23:58 am »

joth sent me a prod. doing catch up right this moment.

Samsies - Raptor/Swan/Myself hosted Friendsgiving this weekend, so we were all rather busy.

I hope nothing else got broken...
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