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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #750 on: November 20, 2019, 12:01:40 pm »

Scum has zero incentive to do our work for us. This is ridiculous. Kill the claimed scum!

This.

MiX is dead wrong. You kill scum that can kill when you have the chance. Absolutely 0 part of Faust’s claim is verified. All the other scum factions are going to be hunting for each other at this point, not Town. They’re their own greatest threats to themselves. You absolutely never ever let a claimed killing scum live when given the chance to lynch them.

Then town dies to collateral damage. It's not a feasible plan to kill aliens for the sake of it. If scum's so scared of faust they'll shoot him. Besides we should help scum develop scumreads on each other, which goes hand in hand with playing the day beyond the low hanging fruit.

Deadline's like a week away, explore this first, then decide if the other lynch candidates are so towny you'd rather kill faust.

So we're more likely to hunt down unclaimed scum than accidentally hit town? You need to rethink yourself here.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #751 on: November 20, 2019, 12:02:31 pm »

Scum has zero incentive to do our work for us. This is ridiculous. Kill the claimed scum!

This.

MiX is dead wrong. You kill scum that can kill when you have the chance. Absolutely 0 part of Faust’s claim is verified. All the other scum factions are going to be hunting for each other at this point, not Town. They’re their own greatest threats to themselves. You absolutely never ever let a claimed killing scum live when given the chance to lynch them.

Then town dies to collateral damage. It's not a feasible plan to kill aliens for the sake of it. If scum's so scared of faust they'll shoot him. Besides we should help scum develop scumreads on each other, which goes hand in hand with playing the day beyond the low hanging fruit.

Deadline's like a week away, explore this first, then decide if the other lynch candidates are so towny you'd rather kill faust.

So we're more likely to hunt down unclaimed scum than accidentally hit town? You need to rethink yourself here.

The day is young.

Vote: Swan
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #752 on: November 20, 2019, 12:08:47 pm »

Good enough for me
Shoot: Swan
My gun seems to be broken again.... maybe I'm not meant to be a vig
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #753 on: November 20, 2019, 12:09:26 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #754 on: November 20, 2019, 12:10:06 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Alien partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #755 on: November 20, 2019, 12:11:30 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #756 on: November 20, 2019, 12:12:43 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #757 on: November 20, 2019, 12:14:21 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.

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Seriously if you think killing faust will let town win you're just taking the path scum wants and town will lose. And you don't care because...you're wrong. This is dumb.

Is everyone but raerae also eating this up?
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #758 on: November 20, 2019, 12:14:55 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.
Let's add Galz to the non-town list

PPE: 1
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #759 on: November 20, 2019, 12:17:03 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.
Let's add Galz to the non-town list

PPE: 1

I double-checked, only town and alien would know faust's alignment.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #760 on: November 20, 2019, 12:18:23 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.

Dghkfeughbcfigrhfgdjkfkihdeftggghryddghcveskddc

Seriously if you think killing faust will let town win you're just taking the path scum wants and town will lose. And you don't care because...you're wrong. This is dumb.

Is everyone but raerae also eating this up?

Defending and advocating NOT lynching scum - scum that has claimed to STILL HAVE A SHOT - is what will make town lose this game. Hunting and outing town’s remaining PR’s when there’s claimed scum to lynch will make town lose this game. Doing everything you can to make your partner “an issue for sometime later” will make town lose this game.

Lynching scum, because he’s scum and we need to kill all the scum, is what will let Town WIN this game.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #761 on: November 20, 2019, 12:19:12 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.
Let's add Galz to the non-town list

PPE: 1

Lol - look at how the scum just jump along with MiX. Definitely the town winning strategy to follow here folks.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #762 on: November 20, 2019, 12:22:47 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.
Let's add Galz to the non-town list

PPE: 1

Lol - look at how the scum just jump along with MiX. Definitely the town winning strategy to follow here folks.

I'm glad you're always right, I'm always wrong and I'm the alien and killing alien is correct and town won't be decimated by the rest of the scum. Horraaaaay.

OR I'm actually right about this and we need to kill real NKing scum first.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #763 on: November 20, 2019, 12:23:46 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.
Let's add Galz to the non-town list

PPE: 1

Lol - look at how the scum just jump along with MiX. Definitely the town winning strategy to follow here folks.
Lynch me then and you can see that I'm town
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Town: 22 games, 8 wins
Scum: 5 games, 3 wins

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #764 on: November 20, 2019, 12:25:06 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.
Let's add Galz to the non-town list

PPE: 1

Lol - look at how the scum just jump along with MiX. Definitely the town winning strategy to follow here folks.

I'm glad you're always right, I'm always wrong and I'm the alien and killing alien is correct and town won't be decimated by the rest of the scum. Horraaaaay.

OR I'm actually right about this and we need to kill real NKing scum first.

Faust IS “real NK’ing scum”. And he’s outed. Stop trying to out town PR’s.

Nobody should claim for the rest of D2 unless you have something truly relevant
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #765 on: November 20, 2019, 12:25:32 pm »

So we’re all pretty clear that MiX is faust’s Allen partner, yeah? Lynch Faust, let scum shoot MiX, and that’s an entire faction gone. Coolio.

Hmm no...I don't even...what...

Rationality in this town is going out the window and Galzria wants scum to win.

Says scum.
Let's add Galz to the non-town list

PPE: 1

Lol - look at how the scum just jump along with MiX. Definitely the town winning strategy to follow here folks.
Lynch me then and you can see that I'm town

Why in the world would I lynch you first over Faust? Don’t be dumb.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #766 on: November 20, 2019, 12:30:52 pm »

I double-checked, only town and alien would know faust's alignment.
I've been thinking about this too.

There's no scum-equivalent of the Conspiracy Theorist role, so it rules out a cross-scum-faction investigation.

As for the Mafia Tracker and Werewolf Watcher. It might have been possible for Galzria to have seen faust (assume here he is the Alien Vanilla-izer) target one of his faction members (Swan if we assume he's scum), but there'd be no feedback because their QT isn't open in the day. Basically there's no way he'd know the nature of faust's ability or be able to deduce his alignment from that.

My conclusion is that Galzria is legit and is either the Bloodhound or the last Conspiracy Theorist.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #767 on: November 20, 2019, 12:33:03 pm »

My conclusion is that Galzria is legit and is either the Bloodhound or the last Conspiracy Theorist.
And go look at my earlier post for why I don't think he's Alien-aligned, it'd be literally faction suicide.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #768 on: November 20, 2019, 12:59:10 pm »

Vote: faust
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #769 on: November 20, 2019, 01:14:49 pm »

I think I’m with Galz on this one. We have claimed scum, let’s lynch ‘em.

Also, we can’t forget that scum NKs can hit each other as well, and they may very well be more scared of each other than of town rn.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #770 on: November 20, 2019, 01:16:12 pm »

I think I’m with Galz on this one. We have claimed scum, let’s lynch ‘em.

Also, we can’t forget that scum NKs can hit each other as well, and they may very well be more scared of each other than of town rn.
Scum team much?
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #771 on: November 20, 2019, 01:17:28 pm »

I think I’m with Galz on this one. We have claimed scum, let’s lynch ‘em.

Also, we can’t forget that scum NKs can hit each other as well, and they may very well be more scared of each other than of town rn.
Scum team much?
Nope actually I’m town. Just saying what scum’s mindset might be.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #772 on: November 20, 2019, 01:36:42 pm »

Nobody should claim for the rest of D2 unless you have something truly relevant
I was just going to claim who my partner is, but this post convinced me not to.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #773 on: November 20, 2019, 01:38:02 pm »

Nobody should claim for the rest of D2 unless you have something truly relevant
I was just going to claim who my partner is, but this post convinced me not to.

Sounds relevant to me.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #774 on: November 20, 2019, 01:38:46 pm »

Nobody should claim for the rest of D2 unless you have something truly relevant
I was just going to claim who my partner is, but this post convinced me not to.

Glad we agree then.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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