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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #800 on: January 27, 2020, 11:34:05 am »

What was the Fillmore Graves win con?

Could I have claimed zombie mafia and the two of them would have just been kingmakers?

Most of the setup can be found here: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/rmEHEQeakjvf

Fillmore-Graves was a kind of Survivor-like faction that could win with either Town or Mafia, but needed to turn everyone Zombie (and counted as a threat to town as long as they didn't). In theory, the game would have gone on after this lynch, but since Didds was guaranteed to die next Night and that gave FG a blocking majority, turning everyone into a zombie could not be prevented.

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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #801 on: January 27, 2020, 11:36:06 am »

So awaclus' kill was delayed? So that is why it didn't go through?
Yes.

What was the Fillmore Graves win con?

Could I have claimed zombie mafia and the two of them would have just been kingmakers?
You could have cooperated... if they believed you. You still would have needed to make sure to not starve before the game ends. Which might have proven difficult since Galzria could have blocked you one Night.
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #802 on: January 27, 2020, 11:36:51 am »

I'm really proud of my fakeclaim and how well it was accepted

I am sorry for removing you from this game MiX :(  I was paranoid that there was a faction in the game that was opposite and wanted to make everybody humans so I was shooting at someone I thought might be that faction from the way they were talking.  I knew it was also possible there was no such faction but as 3rd party I didn't actually have to care whether you were town or scum so it seemed like the only good shooting criterion.

I helped zombies stay alive! I wanted to help town zombies  :(

But you helped town in the end, that's all that matters.
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #803 on: January 27, 2020, 11:40:11 am »

I did not understand that we counted as a threat to the town as long as we were alive, and I thought that when the last mafia was lynched we would lose if we hadn't achieved our wincon yet.  I would have appreciated better communication on that (well, unless we weren't supposed to understand that and that was part of the design)
It is my policy to not point out misinterpretations when I see them unless I am directly asked a question. The thought process being that that would favor scum factions who can actually talk about their misinterpretations over town who might also misread their role, but aren't talking about it so I don't see it.

I'm not 100% sure that that's the best way to do it, but it's worked alright so far.
Oh, this is my modding philosophy also, the location where I would argue for different communication is only in my role PM.  100% agree with not jumping in based on discussions that were visible in the third party PT
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #804 on: January 27, 2020, 11:43:36 am »

I’m sorry I pushed your lynch Shraeye!
No worries!  I've been soooooo crazy off in all my reads lately that it's probably in everybody's best interest to lynch me.  Either you get scum, or you get loud+wrong out of the way :)
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #805 on: January 27, 2020, 11:57:01 am »

Hooray!

Good job town and fun setup Faust! Cool roles and interesting mechanics
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #806 on: January 27, 2020, 11:58:55 am »

I think this is my first 3p win
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #807 on: January 27, 2020, 12:10:21 pm »

I'm really proud of my fakeclaim and how well it was accepted

I am sorry for removing you from this game MiX :(  I was paranoid that there was a faction in the game that was opposite and wanted to make everybody humans so I was shooting at someone I thought might be that faction from the way they were talking.  I knew it was also possible there was no such faction but as 3rd party I didn't actually have to care whether you were town or scum so it seemed like the only good shooting criterion.
Really good fakeclaim. I thought there was the potential of you and DatSwan being in cahoots, but would have expected you to have the same anthology type role.
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #808 on: January 27, 2020, 12:25:50 pm »

So awaclus' kill was delayed? So that is why it didn't go through?
Yes.

What was the Fillmore Graves win con?

Could I have claimed zombie mafia and the two of them would have just been kingmakers?
You could have cooperated... if they believed you. You still would have needed to make sure to not starve before the game ends. Which might have proven difficult since Galzria could have blocked you one Night.

Yeah, for those interested, the two unclaimed parts of my role were:
- Every one of my customers got changed to Vanilla of their faction the night following my death (not just my lynch). I claimed lynch only in the hopes that if we were wrong on the lynch during the final day, that it would encourage a NK on me - hands down the most useful way for me to die.
- I could actively Vanilla-ize any of my existing customers at night, with the cost of losing them as customers on following days. Had were lynched anybody other than e here (say, pops), I would’ve used this power at night on e. I did not feel super confident using it earlier in the game however.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #809 on: January 27, 2020, 01:06:15 pm »

Hooray! That was super fun faust. Thank you!
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #810 on: January 27, 2020, 01:12:43 pm »

Glad we won after my abysmal play.
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #811 on: January 27, 2020, 01:20:40 pm »

So awaclus' kill was delayed? So that is why it didn't go through?

Yes, the other part of my role is that the actions are delayed. So, he. Someone targeted me, the neighborhood opened and the action was delayed. I had a 1-shot role block but I used it to stay human figuring if I got shot one more day might be enough to out whomever shot me.
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #812 on: January 28, 2020, 03:49:20 am »

good game everyone!
gjob Pop!

Thanks for the game Faust, was super fun set up.
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #813 on: January 30, 2020, 01:57:41 pm »

I wanted to apologize for signing up for this and then having to bail. I think it was rough on scum to deal with two replacements on the scum team. But it turns out I did not have the real life bandwidth for this game.
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #814 on: January 30, 2020, 06:39:20 pm »

I wanted to apologize for signing up for this and then having to bail. I think it was rough on scum to deal with two replacements on the scum team. But it turns out I did not have the real life bandwidth for this game.

It's ok. I appreciate the effort e put into it. For a moment, I thought he would save the day.
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Re: RMM55: iZombie Mafia (Game over, Town and Fillmore-Graves win)
« Reply #815 on: January 30, 2020, 07:26:54 pm »

I wanted to apologize for signing up for this and then having to bail. I think it was rough on scum to deal with two replacements on the scum team. But it turns out I did not have the real life bandwidth for this game.

Honestly, e did great selling his personal towniness - but I had already pegged you as scum based on your play prior to your replacement. And to be fair to you, it was actually based on your play, not your lack-thereof, which I was certainly equally as guilty of.

Don’t feel too bad about having low availability - I think most people did in general!
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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