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[popsofctown]

ADK feels like he's pretending to change his mind rather than changing his mind, not a fan of that slot right now.

Just a reminder: ADK and I both use they/them as a pronoun.

I am sorry about that.  I usually prefer she/hers but am not gonna bother about it this game

[faust]

Vote Count 1.4

Galzria (4): SpaceAnemone, Archetype, shraeye, A Drowned Kernel
Glooble (2): Galzria, Awaclus
LaLight (1): popsofctown
popsofctown (1): LaLight
SpaceAnemone (1): EFHW

Not Voting (4): WestCoastDidds, jotheonah, DatSwan, Glooble

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends on December 29, 2019, 02:30:00 am.

That is in about 34 hours.

[A Drowned Kernel]

@pops I'd still like to know if/why you find galz towny

[shraeye]

Vote: lalight

[popsofctown]

@pops I'd still like to know if/why you find galz towny

It's easier to remember that I do than why I do, and that gap is much wider on sites without an iso button X.X

[popsofctown]

If town should never shoot in that case, then scum should never shoot as well.  I don't buy it, LaLight

You’ve been the only person to make much sense thus far - or at least I’ve felt your posts have mirrored mine & my thinking. This generally happens (from my perspective anyway) when you’re town.

I lol'ed at Galzria developing the "resonance" towntell from the axioms, like transoceanic civilization independently inventing agriculture or something.
Claiming lots of resonance towntells is a staple part of my scumgame but if the concept isn't well developed here it just seems hard for that to be a natural part of his countermeasures handbook.


Looks like the other part is his charitable view of my slot pocketing me tell me what I want to hear etc, that's only going to have impact fmpov.

[A Drowned Kernel]

If town should never shoot in that case, then scum should never shoot as well.  I don't buy it, LaLight

You’ve been the only person to make much sense thus far - or at least I’ve felt your posts have mirrored mine & my thinking. This generally happens (from my perspective anyway) when you’re town.

I lol'ed at Galzria developing the "resonance" towntell from the axioms, like transoceanic civilization independently inventing agriculture or something.
Claiming lots of resonance towntells is a staple part of my scumgame but if the concept isn't well developed here it just seems hard for that to be a natural part of his countermeasures handbook.


Looks like the other part is his charitable view of my slot pocketing me tell me what I want to hear etc, that's only going to have impact fmpov.

I would say people are aware of the concept though are likely to blanket the whole thing under the idea of "buddying"

[EFHW]

saying vigs shouldn't shoot is almost indistinguishable from the copypasta "didn't you know it's wrong to do anything but no-lynch day 1, since the day 1 lynch is more likely to be town than scum".  It's just actually even worse because it's a shot that does slightly better than rand.  That's when you're giving the dayvig's reads no credence at all.

The only decent argument is complaints about the vig victim being a powerful PR who could claim to deter a particularly bad lynch in a way they can't deter a particularly bad vigging, well, I keep that in mind, my sense of MiX's play was that it seemed if I was wrong about him he wasn't something particularly powerful, and it doesn't seem that I was wrong about that at all

What gave you the idea he wasn't powerful? I thought you thought he was scum?

Do I need to find the por que no los dos girl to post her in here?
Mafia Goon (well in this setup, a mafia with a very weak ability) is the flip I most expected, VT (same caveat) secondmost.

Which posts gave you that impression?

You can use she for me.

[popsofctown]

RVS talk aside, do we really lose anything from claiming who's human and who's zombie? There's probably some abilities that turn humans into zombies, or vice-versa, and hiding when those changes happen might be good, but I can't tell how bad it is if we all just claimed our initial status. What does everyone else think?

This made me think MiX genuinely didn't know a lot about the setup -> has fewer abilities.
Being willing to talk about mechanics is vanilla indicative because there's less fear of rolefishing yourself as well, if you're the godfather in a cop game you don't want to slip in the way you describe investigation mechanics, a goon doesn't care.

[LaLight]

I am completely clueless.

Also I won't be here at the deadline, but I will be here in 12ish hours

[Glooble]

RVS talk aside, do we really lose anything from claiming who's human and who's zombie? There's probably some abilities that turn humans into zombies, or vice-versa, and hiding when those changes happen might be good, but I can't tell how bad it is if we all just claimed our initial status. What does everyone else think?

This made me think MiX genuinely didn't know a lot about the setup -> has fewer abilities.
Being willing to talk about mechanics is vanilla indicative because there's less fear of rolefishing yourself as well, if you're the godfather in a cop game you don't want to slip in the way you describe investigation mechanics, a goon doesn't care.

Sorry, what? That reason makes sense if MiX is town but not if MiX is scum. Mafia had all of night zero to talk- they know each other’s roles. A goon has exactly as much info about the setup as a Godfather.

[popsofctown]

Whenever I roll mafia goon I make believe I am a VT and I play in a VT way.  So I care less about mechanics.
I expect other people to be like that too

[WestCoastDidds]

Back on land...getting caught up

[WestCoastDidds]

Alright, Glooble. I’m going to vine stand by you for awhile.

I believe that lynching you today is a bad idea. You’re not on board the Galz train. So, what are you thinking?

[WestCoastDidds]

*come

[Awaclus]

I believe that lynching you today is a bad idea.

Why do you believe that?

[Glooble]

Alright, Glooble. I’m going to vine stand by you for awhile.

I believe that lynching you today is a bad idea. You’re not on board the Galz train. So, what are you thinking?

I just Iso’d Galz- didn’t take long. None of it came of particularly scummy to me. He’s not a terrible lynch, but I don’t see why he’s the biggest wagon.

 

Whenever I roll mafia goon I make believe I am a VT and I play in a VT way.  So I care less about mechanics.
I expect other people to be like that too

I get this, but in a role madness game designed by faust I expect no actual VTs, and that makes this mindset more dangerous for scum, since if pushed they have to fake claim something.

[WestCoastDidds]

I believe that lynching you today is a bad idea.

Why do you believe that?

Because he has intimated that would be bad for us in some way beyond just losing him generally, and I think that both sounds like a faust game and is authentically Glooble.

[Awaclus]

Because he has intimated that would be bad for us in some way beyond just losing him generally, and I think that both sounds like a faust game and is authentically Glooble.

It's also trivial to say that if you're scum and there's no way to falsify it while he's alive.

[jotheonah]

I don’t know much, but I know I don’t care for the Galzria wagon.

Vote: ADK

[WestCoastDidds]

Because he has intimated that would be bad for us in some way beyond just losing him generally, and I think that both sounds like a faust game and is authentically Glooble.

It's also trivial to say that if you're scum and there's no way to falsify it while he's alive.

Agreed, but that is not typically the Glooble way. Any reason to be particularly suspicious of him?

[WestCoastDidds]

Awa, why are you voting for him? Or did Rae do that?

[A Drowned Kernel]

I don’t know much, but I know I don’t care for the Galzria wagon.

Vote: ADK

What don't you like about it?

[popsofctown]

Did you guys notice how soon the deadline is?

And the Galzria wagon sucks.

[SpaceAnemone]

I'm back home in Oxford :-) I knew the deadline was getting pretty close, hence worrying about whom to vote for yesterday, but the fact that it's overnight tonight seems a bit sudden even so. (It's 07.30 my time, but I'm a not morning person at the best of times, even though I'm currently also hosting my parents here in my house for the next couple of nights).