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[faust]

Yeah, I wondered whether faust was softing something, but I also didn't want to be the one to say so first out loud. Though I think he's being obvious enough about it that even Maxford would have noticed something! (No offence, Ford, it's just that you're our newbie!).

As a matter of fact, I did notice it.

Okay, so what did you assume he meant by it?

That maybe he could prevent a night kill

He says while voting for me.

[Joseph2302]

Vote: lynch

[raerae]

My scum team thoughts are {Galz, faust, Eevee/Maxford}

Is that your preference order or just how they landed on the keyboard?

[Joseph2302]

My scum team thoughts are {Galz, faust, Eevee/Maxford}

Is that your preference order or just how they landed on the keyboard?

First 2 are preference order, the pair for the third is just alphabetical

[raerae]

My scum team thoughts are {Galz, faust, Eevee/Maxford}

Is that your preference order or just how they landed on the keyboard?

First 2 are preference order, the pair for the third is just alphabetical

You went from faust, to no lunch, to faust and Galz don't fit as partners, to faust, to Galz being your number one. Can you help me with that evolution?

[Joseph2302]

My scum team thoughts are {Galz, faust, Eevee/Maxford}

Is that your preference order or just how they landed on the keyboard?

First 2 are preference order, the pair for the third is just alphabetical

You went from faust, to no lunch, to faust and Galz don't fit as partners, to faust, to Galz being your number one. Can you help me with that evolution?

I still kind of want no lynch, because I don't totally trust faust. If faust is town, then they may be able to stop a lynch. But scum!faust knows that mislynch ends the game, and so is looking for that

And Galz and faust both seem scummy to me. And I'm never that good at working out partner interactions

[raerae]

Space, thoughts, feelings, additional insight?

[faust]

Space, thoughts, feelings, additional insight?

What about your own thougts, feelings, and additional insights?

[raerae]

Space, thoughts, feelings, additional insight?

What about your own thougts, feelings, and additional insights?

Didn't think those were really a secret. You're scumtastic, I don't believe LL's claim, I'm not exactly picking up what Galz is putting down, and I don't really intend to my share anything about anybody else for right now.

[Galzria]

Space, thoughts, feelings, additional insight?

What about your own thougts, feelings, and additional insights?

Didn't think those were really a secret. You're scumtastic, I don't believe LL's claim, I'm not exactly picking up what Galz is putting down, and I don't really intend to my share anything about anybody else for right now.

I’m sad you aren’t feeling Maxwell, because I’m definitely leaning town on you (well, more than Eevee & LL, and about on par with Space - though none of you are hard reads) and with no bussing we need all 5 Town together to lynch scum (although I would be surprised if scum fully stonewalled the whole no-bussing thing).

I’ll be honest: I’m absolutely struggling with everybody’s town read on Joseph. I just don’t see it. Not in the VCA, not in my gut, and not rereading anything he’s posted. But if I can’t convince anybody to go Maxwell (who hasn’t even attempted to defend himself), and my next best grouping is {faust, Joseph}, then I’ll likely end up having to concede my vote to faust and hope that the Town amongst the rest of you are more right than me.

[Eevee]

I'm suffering from a severe paranoia. Usually I struggle with having scum reads, but here I'm just not trusting any of you.

Faust seems like the most immediately scummy person, but it also feels a little too easy. Might be whiplash from what happened with joth.

Maxford is feeling scummier and scummier to me also. I'll do a reread of him.

[Eevee]

Vote: Maxford

I reread Galzria as well, and, well, he just seems towny. The Hail Mary to save joth has me hoping I would see it. I also think his wagon theory is plausible, leading me to look at Maxford.

Scumteamcall: Maxford/Joseph/Space

I still don't think no lynch is terrible, although I'm worried the idea gives scum more control (they'd torpedo the idea if it was a townie getting lynched, would champion it if we were about to lynch mafia).

[SpaceAnemone]

I think Maxford is an uninformative choice, and not as likely to be scum as either faust or Galz.

For one thing, flipping him gives us next to no wagon PoE from D1. He was the very last player to place a vote, and then it was on me, which doesn't even tell the rest of you anything. Then he unvotes! No decent wagon interaction at all. He joins the Shraeye wagon late, and is on-wagon for the lynch in 6th place.. it could look scummy, but it could also just look like a hesitant newbie, so it's all a bit null. Most of the rest of the people there (besides faust and Joseph, or Eevee right at the very end) have already flipped. So let's say there's zero info to be gained by knowing Maxford's alignment over D1.

D2 he joins Eevee pretty early on faust. And then he sits there until the end of the day, and doesn't participate in the MiX lynch. Now, granted that's a tad different from his D1 behaviour, but is it different because he's been coached over N1 in the scum QT, or just different because he'd been around long enough to have developed a read?

D3 he just didn't vote.

In summary, yes, he could be scum, but I don't think he's our most likely chance of finding scum today, and I do think he's a contender for the title of worst possible person to flip in terms of possible scum-hunting boosts for town.

[Galzria]

I think Maxford is an uninformative choice, and not as likely to be scum as either faust or Galz.

For one thing, flipping him gives us next to no wagon PoE from D1. He was the very last player to place a vote, and then it was on me, which doesn't even tell the rest of you anything. Then he unvotes! No decent wagon interaction at all. He joins the Shraeye wagon late, and is on-wagon for the lynch in 6th place.. it could look scummy, but it could also just look like a hesitant newbie, so it's all a bit null. Most of the rest of the people there (besides faust and Joseph, or Eevee right at the very end) have already flipped. So let's say there's zero info to be gained by knowing Maxford's alignment over D1.

D2 he joins Eevee pretty early on faust. And then he sits there until the end of the day, and doesn't participate in the MiX lynch. Now, granted that's a tad different from his D1 behaviour, but is it different because he's been coached over N1 in the scum QT, or just different because he'd been around long enough to have developed a read?

D3 he just didn't vote.

In summary, yes, he could be scum, but I don't think he's our most likely chance of finding scum today, and I do think he's a contender for the title of worst possible person to flip in terms of possible scum-hunting boosts for town.

I disagree with your entire approach here. I don’t give a flying flip about who is the “most informative” lynch here. If we lynch wrong we lose (barring intervention). It wouldn’t matter if were lynched somebody who’s flip told us 100% who the entire scum team is!

Now, if you want to argue he’s not our best chance to find scum, by all means, go for it. I disagree, and I believe the interactions with the only flipped scum suggest otherwise - not to mention I feel my VCA points towards him being scum whereas you’re writing things off as NAI - but hey, to quote Raerae: You do you boo.

[SpaceAnemone]

Priority 1: lynch scum.

Priority 2: lynch a scum who helps us work out who the other scums are. Or at least who some townies are. Otherwise we're just not going to be able to win this further down the line anyway.

[raerae]

LL, do you have anything to add?

[faust]

Space, thoughts, feelings, additional insight?

What about your own thougts, feelings, and additional insights?

Didn't think those were really a secret. You're scumtastic, I don't believe LL's claim, I'm not exactly picking up what Galz is putting down, and I don't really intend to my share anything about anybody else for right now.

Sounds like a secret to me!

[faust]

The only people that so far have expressed reads on Eevee (other than me) are Joseph and Galz, both of which put him very close to null. I think people are trying to keep the conversation away from there.

[LaLight]

Well, I am starting to think faust is on the townie side after all. There is some paranoia in me as usual, but he doesn't look like scum!self.

I am betting on Eevee/raerae/Galz or Maxford

[LaLight]

And I think I will vote: Eevee

[Joseph2302]

This game is stalling a lot
Going for my top scum read, Vote: Galz

[Joseph2302]

Maybe we should do a mass claim?

[raerae]

This game is stalling a lot
Going for my top scum read, Vote: Galz

I was waiting for LL to chime in then was going to push for a vote. I'm fine with a claim though if that's the road people want to go down.

[Joseph2302]

This game is stalling a lot
Going for my top scum read, Vote: Galz

I was waiting for LL to chime in then was going to push for a vote. I'm fine with a claim though if that's the road people want to go down.

It's a suggestion. And I don't think it's a bad one with soft claimed PRs out there

[raerae]

I'm no Space but here's what I'm sitting for a vote count.

faust: Maxford
Maxford: Galz, Eevee
Eevee: faust, LL
Galz: Joseph

Not voting: Space, raerae