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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #850 on: October 31, 2019, 11:49:05 am »

I'm really frustrated with how the game is going.  I have lots of suspicions but no strong reads. Can we reconsider mass claim? I know everyone probably wants to protect their prs so they can use them tonight, but scum can't stop all of them and they'll probably prioritize stopping me.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (NIGHT 1)
« Reply #851 on: October 31, 2019, 12:04:37 pm »

Day 3 will end at 5:30 on Saturday, November 2nd.

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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (NIGHT 1)
« Reply #852 on: October 31, 2019, 01:34:08 pm »

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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #853 on: October 31, 2019, 02:44:53 pm »

vote: faust.  Holding up the game
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #854 on: October 31, 2019, 02:55:34 pm »

@EFHW, why'd you target those two in particular?
When will we see the posts of mine you thought were scummy? You still haven't addressed my question about how my reaction to votes on you was scummy.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #855 on: October 31, 2019, 02:57:38 pm »

I'm voting EFHW because of my increasing scum read and also because Faust.
Scumread based on what?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #856 on: October 31, 2019, 04:13:41 pm »

If we are at MiLo, is there any merit to a “no lynch” here? Get us to an odd number? Of course, I guess the vig shot would accomplish that too...

The EFHW lynch feels wrong to me. No one is coming to her defense. On the other hand, it has sort of stalled out here at L-2.

EFHW, do you really think faust is scum? Why?

Everyone on the wagon, are you confident enough to risk losing the game if you’re wrong? If so, why?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #857 on: October 31, 2019, 04:59:03 pm »

vote: faust.  Holding up the game
What? How?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #858 on: October 31, 2019, 05:25:32 pm »

Everyone on the wagon, are you confident enough to risk losing the game if you’re wrong? If so, why?
Yes, because A) it's not a big risk B) if there are 4 scum, it's closed to guaranteed there they weren't all on MiX, so that makes an EFHW lynch look better C) Noone that I think is scummy supports an EFHW lynch.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #859 on: October 31, 2019, 08:09:16 pm »

If we are at MiLo, is there any merit to a “no lynch” here? Get us to an odd number? Of course, I guess the vig shot would accomplish that too...

The EFHW lynch feels wrong to me. No one is coming to her defense. On the other hand, it has sort of stalled out here at L-2.

I think if EFHW's telling the truth, we want to use the vig shot rather than no-lynch to fix the parity. If she's lying it may be difficult for her to explain the lack of a second kill.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #860 on: October 31, 2019, 08:38:08 pm »

If we are at MiLo, is there any merit to a “no lynch” here? Get us to an odd number? Of course, I guess the vig shot would accomplish that too...

The EFHW lynch feels wrong to me. No one is coming to her defense. On the other hand, it has sort of stalled out here at L-2.

I think if EFHW's telling the truth, we want to use the vig shot rather than no-lynch to fix the parity. If she's lying it may be difficult for her to explain the lack of a second kill.
Difficult like "oh I must have gotten roleblocked, which is the excuse I literally breadcrumbed I would use":
scum can't stop all of them and they'll probably prioritize stopping me.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #861 on: October 31, 2019, 08:39:20 pm »

Yeah, I back what Faust said.  It would be 0% difficult
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #862 on: October 31, 2019, 08:49:29 pm »

If we are at MiLo, is there any merit to a “no lynch” here? Get us to an odd number? Of course, I guess the vig shot would accomplish that too...

The EFHW lynch feels wrong to me. No one is coming to her defense. On the other hand, it has sort of stalled out here at L-2.

I think if EFHW's telling the truth, we want to use the vig shot rather than no-lynch to fix the parity. If she's lying it may be difficult for her to explain the lack of a second kill.
Difficult like "oh I must have gotten roleblocked, which is the excuse I literally breadcrumbed I would use":
scum can't stop all of them and they'll probably prioritize stopping me.

Maybe. Worst case we get the information "Either EFHW is scum or scum used some kind of blocking ability on her". Regardless I think we should look elsewhere for Today's lynch.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #863 on: October 31, 2019, 09:41:03 pm »

@EFHW, why'd you target those two in particular?
When will we see the posts of mine you thought were scummy? You still haven't addressed my question about how my reaction to votes on you was scummy.

When my furnace works again and it isn't Halloween. I already addressed the second half of this and apologized for how unclear it was when I originally posted it.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #864 on: October 31, 2019, 09:44:04 pm »

Anybody down for a joth or Jimmmm vote? I'd still be happy with an EFHW vote but those two are looking more and more appealing with every post.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #865 on: October 31, 2019, 09:46:01 pm »

If we are at MiLo, is there any merit to a “no lynch” here? Get us to an odd number? Of course, I guess the vig shot would accomplish that too...

The EFHW lynch feels wrong to me. No one is coming to her defense. On the other hand, it has sort of stalled out here at L-2.

I think if EFHW's telling the truth, we want to use the vig shot rather than no-lynch to fix the parity. If she's lying it may be difficult for her to explain the lack of a second kill.
Difficult like "oh I must have gotten roleblocked, which is the excuse I literally breadcrumbed I would use":
scum can't stop all of them and they'll probably prioritize stopping me.

Maybe. Worst case we get the information "Either EFHW is scum or scum used some kind of blocking ability on her". Regardless I think we should look elsewhere for Today's lynch.
You mean like, the information we already have because EFHW claimed to have been blocked last night?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #866 on: October 31, 2019, 09:50:56 pm »

You mean like, the information we already have because EFHW claimed to have been blocked last night?

Ah I guess I missed that.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #867 on: October 31, 2019, 09:59:29 pm »

vote: faust.  Holding up the game
What? How?
I asked you to reconsider massclaim. You posted without responding.  Also, you are sitting on my stagnant L-3 wagon without doing anything useful.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #868 on: October 31, 2019, 10:02:42 pm »

Everyone on the wagon, are you confident enough to risk losing the game if you’re wrong? If so, why?
Yes, because A) it's not a big risk B) if there are 4 scum, it's closed to guaranteed there they weren't all on MiX, so that makes an EFHW lynch look better C) Noone that I think is scummy supports an EFHW lynch.
Only 2 people besides you support my lynch according to the vote count. You are using uncertain reads on two other people to confirm your also uncertain read on me? Are they the only two towny people in your opinion?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #869 on: October 31, 2019, 10:05:58 pm »

@EFHW, why'd you target those two in particular?
When will we see the posts of mine you thought were scummy? You still haven't addressed my question about how my reaction to votes on you was scummy.

When my furnace works again and it isn't Halloween. I already addressed the second half of this and apologized for how unclear it was when I originally posted it.
I didn't understand how that clarified things. Still don't.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #870 on: October 31, 2019, 10:07:10 pm »

vote: faust.  Holding up the game
What? How?
I asked you to reconsider massclaim. You posted without responding.  Also, you are sitting on my stagnant L-3 wagon without doing anything useful.
I thought that was more a question to everyone rather than me. I think I made my stance clear before and if you think that I will reconsider just because my top scumread asks nicely then I don't know what to tell you.

I have done plenty of useful things already, I made your wagon a thing and now I am continuing to push the main wagon. That you single me out as "holding up the game" when there are plenty of people out there who have done nothing beyond voicing vague concerns about your wagon and failed to take any meaningful action is ridiculous and a sign of desperation.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #871 on: October 31, 2019, 10:08:53 pm »

If we are at MiLo, is there any merit to a “no lynch” here? Get us to an odd number? Of course, I guess the vig shot would accomplish that too...

The EFHW lynch feels wrong to me. No one is coming to her defense. On the other hand, it has sort of stalled out here at L-2.

I think if EFHW's telling the truth, we want to use the vig shot rather than no-lynch to fix the parity. If she's lying it may be difficult for her to explain the lack of a second kill.
Difficult like "oh I must have gotten roleblocked, which is the excuse I literally breadcrumbed I would use":
scum can't stop all of them and they'll probably prioritize stopping me.
How do you explain my correct result on gkrieg?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #872 on: October 31, 2019, 10:09:56 pm »

If we are at MiLo, is there any merit to a “no lynch” here? Get us to an odd number? Of course, I guess the vig shot would accomplish that too...

The EFHW lynch feels wrong to me. No one is coming to her defense. On the other hand, it has sort of stalled out here at L-2.

I think if EFHW's telling the truth, we want to use the vig shot rather than no-lynch to fix the parity. If she's lying it may be difficult for her to explain the lack of a second kill.
Difficult like "oh I must have gotten roleblocked, which is the excuse I literally breadcrumbed I would use":
scum can't stop all of them and they'll probably prioritize stopping me.
How do you explain my correct result on gkrieg?
I assume scum has an investigative power. Shocker.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #873 on: October 31, 2019, 10:10:53 pm »

vote: faust.  Holding up the game
What? How?
I asked you to reconsider massclaim. You posted without responding.  Also, you are sitting on my stagnant L-3 wagon without doing anything useful.
I thought that was more a question to everyone rather than me. I think I made my stance clear before and if you think that I will reconsider just because my top scumread asks nicely then I don't know what to tell you.

I have done plenty of useful things already, I made your wagon a thing and now I am continuing to push the main wagon. That you single me out as "holding up the game" when there are plenty of people out there who have done nothing beyond voicing vague concerns about your wagon and failed to take any meaningful action is ridiculous and a sign of desperation.
Everyone includes you, and you have not been pushing my wagon except in response to questions.  Otherwise you seem content for things to languish.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #874 on: October 31, 2019, 10:11:16 pm »

Everyone on the wagon, are you confident enough to risk losing the game if you’re wrong? If so, why?
Yes, because A) it's not a big risk B) if there are 4 scum, it's closed to guaranteed there they weren't all on MiX, so that makes an EFHW lynch look better C) Noone that I think is scummy supports an EFHW lynch.
Only 2 people besides you support my lynch according to the vote count. You are using uncertain reads on two other people to confirm your also uncertain read on me? Are they the only two towny people in your opinion?
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