LaLight:
Yeah, but also people who start every game the same, sa Joseph claiming SK, again, are having an easy entrance into the game, independent of alignment. I personally think it's more scummy than not, so vote: raerae
Who was it, gkrieg, who started every game voting for Witherweaver even if he was not in the game? Iirc, it turned out gkrieg sometimes forgot to do that as town and did that as scum every time, because it was an easy RVS post.
Not sure I remember correctly, but that was the case. Maybe it was Awaclus voting for silver though
Granted it was early Day 1, but I think this is a scummy case.
I am also a bit wary about shraeye making points posts. Makes him scummier in my eyes and if shraeye and raerae are scums together, it will suit my narrative and I like it
I don't know if this means anything, but LaLight mentioning team shraerae so early in the game is interesting.
Shraeye, do anything interesting last night?
vote: Galzria
I personally tend to do exactly that when I am scum preparing a fakeclaim
Exactly what? I’m just curious if he did anything interesting. You know, after quick-unannounced-hammering MiX.
Well, i would call it an obvious breadcrumb: I pretend to do some action as Town PR, so then I can say "I have nothing to hide, here in this post I obviously hinted I am tracker and tracked shraeye"
It's not much of a case, but it's the best i have
Galz' comment struck me as too obvious to be a scum breadcrumb, but I agree that it was strange. "it's the best i have" is interesting, given that this is after the MiX lynch but before joth started pushing the shraerae narrative, which indicates that LL didn't find it suspicious at this point.
Based on your argument it made it less and more safe at the same time.
Basically yeah, the fact that Joth said it would make it more or less safe depending on whether Shraeye is scum, so the point is moot.
I personally think it's more scummy than not, I see shraeye yoloing this
vote: shraeye
My current thinking on shraerae is that they're more likely to be both scum than one scum and one not. Again, I hope a reread will bring clarity when I have time for it.
Weird, but it seems the same for me. That they are more likely to both be scums
I'm not super convinced by LL's agreement here.
All fire, no substance. This isn't townrae.
What happened to this read? It sounds pretty sure
You always say that you excellently read raerae, then you say she's scum, then you drop it, why?
This is a line of questioning I can get behind. LL in fact asked the first question again later and as far as I've seen it still hasn't been answered.
I also continue to think that shraeye is scum because even if people tell me it's his meta to be careless, he seems trying to play his meta, not just playing it.
The hammer, these posts:
I'll pre-sheep DatSwan
Vote: EFHW
But that last question jimmm asked is new and exciting.
I'll make a deal. If you summarize what you think about raerae overall, I'll answer that neato question.
It's like "see, people, I am town!shraeye, I play like town!shraeye, you see? See?"
I don't feel it genuine.
I don't really have a comment on these particular arguments except to say that I'll now admit that a LL/shraeye team seems less likely than your average pair of scummy players.
I think the town's non-desire to acknowledge shraeye/raerae scum team is what will be our demise.
vote: raerae
I'm not really sure why, but I don't like this statement. Maybe it's partly just because I remain unconvinced of team shraerae. I guess also I think comments fearing "our demise" etc tend to more often come from scum trying to be Town than Town.
I drank alcohol for the first time in 3 months and I can feel like I clearly see the whole scumteam which is shraeye/raerae/Faust
I also think gkrieg is not town, bit SK or survivor.
I don't think there's any reason at all to believe gkrieg is an SK or Survivor. We haven't seen multiple deaths and it seems unlikely that we'd have a Survivor (DatSwan) and also another Survivor/Nemesis. The fact that he's just thrown this out there with nothing to back it up seems wrong.
Pubby kill is what bothering me. Why pubby? I mean I am not super familiar with his meta, but this kill is weird
Galz kill is alright, he had this result on DatSwan
I think this kind of argument comes from scum pretending to be surprised more often than from Town. They're not really helpful or saying anything other than "Look how much I'm not scum".
So I come away leaning scum on LL. He does get some Town points for his questioning of shraeye. Could they be scum together? Maybe. If LL stays on raerae then I would say yes, it seems likely that the push for shraerae was actually a push for raerae. If it turns out he's equally happy to lynch either then maybe he gets some more Town points.
Questions for LaLight:
What was your initial response to the events around the MiX lynch? Did shraerae seem scummy to you at the time, or did you only develop that opinion based on others' arguments? If the latter, what convinced you?
What makes you think gkrieg is non-Town? Is that a read on him or on the setup?
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