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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #750 on: October 28, 2019, 01:44:30 am »

What are you suggesting? That anyone with a read in common with me gets a free pass? In considering LaLight, I'm not going to assume that I'm right about you and that he wouldn't bus you.

Besides, unless he changes his vote to you, LaLight's stance on you is irrelevant if raerae is Town.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #751 on: October 28, 2019, 05:06:29 am »

See now I'm having trouble parsing what you mean in that reply. 

And you've skirted the issue that I brought up in the first place by doubling down on the part A bit.

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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #752 on: October 28, 2019, 05:37:35 am »

skirted the issue

You'd know about that, wouldn't you?

One scum is enough for Today, ie I'm looking for one scum at a time not partners, ie I consider each player on their own merits until we have more information, therefore in considering LaLight, I'm not going to assume that I'm right about you and that he wouldn't bus you.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #753 on: October 28, 2019, 06:45:26 am »

I'll reword in case I was legitimately not clear.

A) I don't see why shraeye and LL can't both be scum. B) Even if I was convinced they're not both scum, I would remain suspicious of each of them.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #754 on: October 28, 2019, 06:45:58 am »

Although my assessment of LL is based purely on his posts from Today; I'll reread him properly soon.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #755 on: October 28, 2019, 08:30:23 am »

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Is this your way of not lurking? You are the third vote for me without explanation. What am I missing?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #756 on: October 28, 2019, 08:42:53 am »

Vote: EFHW
Is this your way of not lurking? You are the third vote for me without explanation. What am I missing?
You're missing that you're scum.

Why should we not vote for you?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #757 on: October 28, 2019, 08:46:23 am »

You all know this is possibly MyLo, right? We should be past the point of throwing votes around willy-nilly if we want to have any chance of winning. We need serious votes based on serious cases. If we don’t get our heads in the game we’re gonna hand it to scum.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #758 on: October 28, 2019, 08:56:39 am »

You all know this is possibly MyLo, right? We should be past the point of throwing votes around willy-nilly if we want to have any chance of winning. We need serious votes based on serious cases. If we don’t get our heads in the game we’re gonna hand it to scum.

Why would it be MyLo? We mislynched once, how hard this game would be for us if two mislynches can lose us the game?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #759 on: October 28, 2019, 08:57:15 am »

Vote: EFHW
Is this your way of not lurking? You are the third vote for me without explanation. What am I missing?
You're missing that you're scum.

Why should we not vote for you?

So you have any information we don't? I didn't see you voting for EFHW once in this game
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #760 on: October 28, 2019, 08:57:30 am »

Vote: EFHW
Is this your way of not lurking? You are the third vote for me without explanation. What am I missing?
You're missing that you're scum.

Why should we not vote for you?

Do you have any information we don't? I didn't see you voting for EFHW once in this game

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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (NIGHT 1)
« Reply #761 on: October 28, 2019, 08:58:09 am »

With the death of the living guildpact, relations between the guilds have devolved even further towards total chaos. Now as well as fighting zombies in the streets, the citizens of Ravnica are fighting each other. As the Planeswalkers look out at the battles raging in the streets, they know their only hope to save this city is to find the traitor in their midst.

Vote Count 3.1

Awaclus (1): jotheonah
raerae (1): LaLight
EFHW (3): raerae, faust, UncleEurope
shraeye (1):Jimmmm
UncleEurope (1): EFHW
Jimmmmmm (1): shraeye
Not voting (2): Awaclus, gkrieg,

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 will end at 5:30 on Saturday, November 2nd.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #762 on: October 28, 2019, 09:12:50 am »

You all know this is possibly MyLo, right? We should be past the point of throwing votes around willy-nilly if we want to have any chance of winning. We need serious votes based on serious cases. If we don’t get our heads in the game we’re gonna hand it to scum.

Why would it be MyLo? We mislynched once, how hard this game would be for us if two mislynches can lose us the game?

We also vig-killed a townie? I mean, it also might not be MyLo, all the third parties running around suggest a smaller scum team to me. But, like, math is math. Four scum is not out of the question. There are 10 players alive. A mislynch today, a nightkill tonight, then we're at 8. If 4 are scum, they win.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #763 on: October 28, 2019, 09:14:38 am »

You all know this is possibly MyLo, right? We should be past the point of throwing votes around willy-nilly if we want to have any chance of winning. We need serious votes based on serious cases. If we don’t get our heads in the game we’re gonna hand it to scum.

Is this your idea of a serious vote based on a serious case?

Well, anyway, vote: Awaclus.

I’ve decided that holding scummy quickhammers accountable is the hill I want to die on.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #764 on: October 28, 2019, 09:14:48 am »

You all know this is possibly MyLo, right? We should be past the point of throwing votes around willy-nilly if we want to have any chance of winning. We need serious votes based on serious cases. If we don’t get our heads in the game we’re gonna hand it to scum.

Why would it be MyLo? We mislynched once, how hard this game would be for us if two mislynches can lose us the game?

We also vig-killed a townie? I mean, it also might not be MyLo, all the third parties running around suggest a smaller scum team to me. But, like, math is math. Four scum is not out of the question. There are 10 players alive. A mislynch today, a nightkill tonight, then we're at 8. If 4 are scum, they win.

Oh I totally forgot about vigkill.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #765 on: October 28, 2019, 09:27:23 am »

Vote: EFHW
Is this your way of not lurking? You are the third vote for me without explanation. What am I missing?
You're missing that you're scum.

Why should we not vote for you?

So you have any information we don't? I didn't see you voting for EFHW once in this game
I do have some information that I presume you do not have.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #766 on: October 28, 2019, 09:29:24 am »

You all know this is possibly MyLo, right? We should be past the point of throwing votes around willy-nilly if we want to have any chance of winning. We need serious votes based on serious cases. If we don’t get our heads in the game we’re gonna hand it to scum.

Is this your idea of a serious vote based on a serious case?

Well, anyway, vote: Awaclus.

I’ve decided that holding scummy quickhammers accountable is the hill I want to die on.

Kinda, yeah. We're in this mess largely because you and shraeye (and to a lesser extent faust and raerae) decided you knew best and quickhammered, either without a claim or before town could react to a claim. So as far as I'm concerned you're all pretty likely to be scum.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #767 on: October 28, 2019, 10:06:59 am »

Vote: EFHW
Is this your way of not lurking? You are the third vote for me without explanation. What am I missing?
You're missing that you're scum.

Why should we not vote for you?
I have been a bit cursory due to traveling. That's done now, so I will try to be more engaged.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #768 on: October 28, 2019, 10:25:31 am »

Kinda, yeah. We're in this mess largely because you and shraeye (and to a lesser extent faust and raerae) decided you knew best and quickhammered, either without a claim or before town could react to a claim. So as far as I'm concerned you're all pretty likely to be scum.

Town could react to DatSwan's claim and the way town reacted was by hammering him.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #769 on: October 28, 2019, 11:05:52 am »

Okay, if we're legitimately close to MyLo then we should be claiming, right? joth, since the rest of us can't do anything right I suppose you'd like to start?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #770 on: October 28, 2019, 11:57:22 am »

Okay, if we're legitimately close to MyLo then we should be claiming, right? joth, since the rest of us can't do anything right I suppose you'd like to start?

Why wasn't he suggesting it?

I don't think this could be mylo, but I'm ok with a mass claim and starting with joth sounds perfect. Do we have anyone to set an order?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #771 on: October 28, 2019, 01:03:02 pm »

I'm not sure I'm sold on a massclaim here, but I'm happy to go first if we all decide we want to do one.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #772 on: October 28, 2019, 01:43:12 pm »

I just did iso on joth, and even though I have had scum vibes here and there, I think he is more likely town. So I'd rather Lalight, Shraeye or Awaclus went first.

I'm trying to think if there is a way to do massclaim that optimizes the use of investigation results for catching scum.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #773 on: October 28, 2019, 01:44:35 pm »

I don't think a massclaim is in our interest.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 3)
« Reply #774 on: October 28, 2019, 01:45:11 pm »

Good thing I'm already voting for EFHW.
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