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[gkrieg13]

Sorry all, was sick yesterday and don't have much availability over the weekends. Going to go and respond to people now.

[gkrieg13]

Pubby and I were nemeses. I could not win with him alive, but when he died I become aligned with town. My guess is that it was the same for him.

Was he named in your pm?

Yes

So presumably you were also named in his but he never voted for you. And he claimed he got night actions depending on how he voted but you got assigned to town once he was out of the way. Do I have to facts right?

Why the Awaclus vote?

That is my guess. I would think he probably had the same role as mine. I don't think he got night actions depending on how he voted, but I guess it is possible.

I think Awaclus is scum here. He is acting like his scum meta. He is being more helpful and posting more than normal, until I pointed it out, where he stopped doing those things.

[gkrieg13]

@gkrieg -

Day 1 you voted 3 times, for Lalight, Shraeye and pubby. Each time the next vote placed was pubby voting for the same person as you. Do you know what that was about?

I have no idea.

[gkrieg13]

Another question for gkrieg - How did you decide to stay off the MiX wagon?

I did not think MiX was scum. I was also not around when it got big. I've only been checking this game on my computer at work, so I haven't been posting in the evenings.

[gkrieg13]

Does anybody have more knowledge or familiarity with the Nemesis role than I do?  I don't understand why Pubby wouldn't have voted for gkrieg if there was some benefit to their counterpart dying.

I think to some extent, you don't want to completely tunnel the person you are trying to lynch, as that tends to not get them lynched and tends to not get them killed. Scum and town like to leave people alive that are at each others throats until late in the game.

[gkrieg13]

Does anybody have more knowledge or familiarity with the Nemesis role than I do?  I don't understand why Pubby wouldn't have voted for gkrieg if there was some benefit to their counterpart dying.

other side question to go along with this...


GK - why did you claim it out right away?

Claimed right away because I don't think there was a reason to leave it unclaimed.

[gkrieg13]

I think raerae could definitely have told Mix what she did at the end of the day as either alignment. Her arguments today lead me to believe she is town.

[gkrieg13]

EFHW also seems town to me because she hasn't done what she does as scum.

Not sure on faust, who I can also usually read based off meta.

Awaclus seems scum here, all based on meta.

[EFHW]

I wonder if Lalight could be another Nemesis. His votes actually correspond with gkrieg's and pubby's, though not quite as closely as theirs do with each other. Empty lines mean I deleted votes by other people.

Post#   Voter   Wagon

65   Lalight   gkrieg

74   gkrieg   Lalight
75   pubby   Lalight
106   Lalight   raerae
111   gkrieg   Shraeye
112   pubby   Shraeye

116   Lalight   pubby
120   gkrieg   pubby
123   pubby   pubby

249   Lalight   MiX

[Awaclus]

I think Awaclus is scum here. He is acting like his scum meta. He is being more helpful and posting more than normal, until I pointed it out, where he stopped doing those things.

You pointing it out 1) was not a true statement 2) had nothing to do with anything. My posting activity dropped after MiX got lynched.

[faust]

I wonder if Lalight could be another Nemesis. His votes actually correspond with gkrieg's and pubby's, though not quite as closely as theirs do with each other. Empty lines mean I deleted votes by other people.

From what I've understood, that wouldn't make flavor sense (people who actually know flavor might want to chime in).

[Swowl]

I wonder if Lalight could be another Nemesis. His votes actually correspond with gkrieg's and pubby's, though not quite as closely as theirs do with each other. Empty lines mean I deleted votes by other people.

From what I've understood, that wouldn't make flavor sense (people who actually know flavor might want to chime in).

There could be any number of Nemisis (depending on how deep into the story line we go). Somewhat doubtful on there being a factor of 3 "not mafia" skum though.

[Swowl]

I went to go make my case on EFHW and it fell apart unfortunately.

It was pretty much based on a conf!bias post at the end of day 1 and in the end I just couldn't find anything more to build off of it.

Not saying hard town read, just I have nothing to push her as skum for.

[Swowl]

Vote: Jimmm

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: Jimmm

What are your thoughts on the LL wagon?

[shraeye]

I went to go make my case on EFHW and it fell apart unfortunately.

It was pretty much based on a conf!bias post at the end of day 1 and in the end I just couldn't find anything more to build off of it.

Not saying hard town read, just I have nothing to push her as skum for.

Great case, I'm keeping my vote

[faust]

There could be any number of Nemisis (depending on how deep into the story line we go). Somewhat doubtful on there being a factor of 3 "not mafia" skum though.

Nem-ISIS sounds like a terrifying team to go up against.

[Swowl]

I went to go make my case on EFHW and it fell apart unfortunately.

It was pretty much based on a conf!bias post at the end of day 1 and in the end I just couldn't find anything more to build off of it.

Not saying hard town read, just I have nothing to push her as skum for.

Great case, I'm keeping my vote

I openly admitted lack of a case. What's your case?

[Swowl]

Vote: Jimmm

What are your thoughts on the LL wagon?

I pretty much am leaning right now AGAINST voting for anyone that has been participating in today's discussions. I am getting that "skum is sitting back" vibe.

Which is also a larger part of why I am ok with Jimm.

[Jimmmmm]

But that last question jimmm asked is new and exciting.

I'll make a deal. If you summarize what you think about raerae overall, I'll answer that neato question.

She's spent a lot of her posts arguing with a wide variety of people, which makes me think that she's raerae.

She seems genuine enough. Lean Town.

[raerae]

Vote: Jimmm

What are your thoughts on the LL wagon?

I pretty much am leaning right now AGAINST voting for anyone that has been participating in today's discussions. I am getting that "skum is sitting back" vibe.

Which is also a larger part of why I am ok with Jimm.

Scum ended D1 in a pretty strong position, why do you think they wouldn't want to control the pace and conversation of D2?

[Swowl]

Vote: Jimmm

What are your thoughts on the LL wagon?

I pretty much am leaning right now AGAINST voting for anyone that has been participating in today's discussions. I am getting that "skum is sitting back" vibe.

Which is also a larger part of why I am ok with Jimm.

Scum ended D1 in a pretty strong position, why do you think they wouldn't want to control the pace and conversation of D2?

Same point different conclusions - I do think they are controlling the pace... as in keeping it slow moving and letting us talk in circles.

[EFHW]

I see how it seems unlikely that there are 3 third party players, but am I the only one who finds that vote pattern really striking? I think if they have the ability to become town then it could make sense balance-wise. I don't think we should discount evidence in front of us because of speculation about what the mod would or wouldn't do.

[EFHW]

For ease of reference:

I wonder if Lalight could be another Nemesis. His votes actually correspond with gkrieg's and pubby's, though not quite as closely as theirs do with each other. Empty lines mean I deleted votes by other people.

Post#   Voter   Wagon

65   Lalight   gkrieg

74   gkrieg   Lalight
75   pubby   Lalight
106   Lalight   raerae
111   gkrieg   Shraeye
112   pubby   Shraeye

116   Lalight   pubby
120   gkrieg   pubby
123   pubby   pubby

249   Lalight   MiX

[EFHW]

I know this makes LL a lower priority target, since he wouldn't be full scum, but pubby must have had some anti-town function, or there wouldn't be a point to his faction, right?