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Author Topic: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)  (Read 107331 times)

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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 1)
« Reply #500 on: October 19, 2019, 01:26:47 pm »

Nope, killing a townie because you just NEED to use your power is selfish and anti-town but you do you, boo.

a townie? Haven't you been scumreading shraeye like all day?

But he wasn't scum reading shraeye prior to the hammer. If I'm in his shoes I'm venging a previous scumread, not a knee jerk read on the person who hammered me.

Yes I was. Besides I can't kill Swan so...

Because he's your partner?

Just rereading the end of day and I want to flag this from raerae. At this point, does a townie really still think MiX is scum. I mean, I know I made a joke about an epic troll, but for me MiX is basically conf!town by then. So why is raerae making a partner snipe?

People who don’t get the raerae case, just go back and reread. There’s plenty of weirdness that reads fake town.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 1)
« Reply #501 on: October 19, 2019, 01:30:25 pm »

Raerae is scum for not engaging until I fought back at her.  Raerae is always good at the back and forth, but scum raerae is not good at engaging with nobody responding to her. 

Townrae is great at digging up stuff and needling away at threads.

Note how her score keeps going down bit by bit as she continued to not engage

This post is a bit of a problem for me. Maybe shraeye has the guts to try to direct the shot to a townread, maybe he’s relatively confident he’ll fail because MiX expressed a townread on raerae earlier. Or maybe shraeye is scum and raerae is town or vice versa.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #502 on: October 19, 2019, 01:30:59 pm »

Why the Awaclus vote?

Why not? Are you my scum partner?
Awaclus is Traitor confirmed.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 1)
« Reply #503 on: October 19, 2019, 01:32:39 pm »

Nope, killing a townie because you just NEED to use your power is selfish and anti-town but you do you, boo.

a townie? Haven't you been scumreading shraeye like all day?

But he wasn't scum reading shraeye prior to the hammer. If I'm in his shoes I'm venging a previous scumread, not a knee jerk read on the person who hammered me.

Yes I was. Besides I can't kill Swan so...

Because he's your partner?

Just rereading the end of day and I want to flag this from raerae. At this point, does a townie really still think MiX is scum. I mean, I know I made a joke about an epic troll, but for me MiX is basically conf!town by then. So why is raerae making a partner snipe?

People who don’t get the raerae case, just go back and reread. There’s plenty of weirdness that reads fake town.
Yeah that thing it actually  big part of the reason I think raerae is town. There's no reason for scum!raerae to do this, in fact it's very dangerous for her to antagonize MiX like that.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #504 on: October 19, 2019, 04:16:35 pm »

Hmm you and I are reading this very differently. My thinking is that scum already knew MiX was town so realizing that they were supposed to know now would be an extra leap, vs town actually just realizing it, so it seems like a mistake scum is more likely to make (thinking it’s still reasonable to think MiX is scum).
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #505 on: October 19, 2019, 04:31:33 pm »

My thinking is that scum already knew MiX was town so realizing that they were supposed to know now would be an extra leap
Uh... this stuff isn't rocket science.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #506 on: October 19, 2019, 05:21:36 pm »

My thinking is that scum already knew MiX was town so realizing that they were supposed to know now would be an extra leap
Uh... this stuff isn't rocket science.

I’m in Joth’s camp on the thinking here. I’m not sure why you’re having such a difficult time grasping his concepts. You seem to be under the impression that if something is inherently scummy, scum wouldn’t do it. That’s just backwards.

Further, you seem to be overlooking the key point to Joth’s argument that Rae’s instantaneously flipped read on Shraeye isn’t something town does very often. “Lynch Shrae, lynch Shrae, lynch Shrea... don’t veng Shrae!” It’s just off.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #507 on: October 19, 2019, 05:29:17 pm »

raerae is a good lynch target today because of that contradiction in her attitude towards Shraeye. I can see scum jumping on that. Also town would have questions. I'm am befuddled why both joth and DatSwan think the scum!raerae, town!shraeye theory makes sense.

There was no contraction. I never said, "Don't kill shraeye," I said, "Don't kill anybody unless you have a strong scum read."
What do you think about shraeye now?

None of his actions today have completely released him from suspicion.
I've done things today?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #508 on: October 19, 2019, 05:54:17 pm »

raerae is a good lynch target today because of that contradiction in her attitude towards Shraeye. I can see scum jumping on that. Also town would have questions. I'm am befuddled why both joth and DatSwan think the scum!raerae, town!shraeye theory makes sense.

There was no contraction. I never said, "Don't kill shraeye," I said, "Don't kill anybody unless you have a strong scum read."
What do you think about shraeye now?

None of his actions today have completely released him from suspicion.
I've done things today?

Precisely.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #509 on: October 19, 2019, 05:57:50 pm »

My thinking is that scum already knew MiX was town so realizing that they were supposed to know now would be an extra leap
Uh... this stuff isn't rocket science.

I’m in Joth’s camp on the thinking here. I’m not sure why you’re having such a difficult time grasping his concepts. You seem to be under the impression that if something is inherently scummy, scum wouldn’t do it. That’s just backwards.

Further, you seem to be overlooking the key point to Joth’s argument that Rae’s instantaneously flipped read on Shraeye isn’t something town does very often. “Lynch Shrae, lynch Shrae, lynch Shrea... don’t veng Shrae!” It’s just off.

I never said don't kill shraeye. I said don't kill somebody you don't think is scum. He didn't have a scum read on shraeye prior to the hammer.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #510 on: October 19, 2019, 06:07:55 pm »

I’m in Joth’s camp on the thinking here. I’m not sure why you’re having such a difficult time grasping his concepts. You seem to be under the impression that if something is inherently scummy, scum wouldn’t do it. That’s just backwards.
From my perspective, nothing has been discussed that would be inherently scummy, so I have no idea what this is getting at.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #511 on: October 19, 2019, 07:17:15 pm »

I actually feel a bit left out of this whole conversation and also I haven't seen anything scummy from the participating parties, so I am a bit confused here.

Can everyone, like, share their top scumread and why is that so?

I start with shraeye, still haven't got answer to

All fire, no substance.  This isn't townrae.

What happened to this read? It sounds pretty sure

and also don't see him at all participating in D2 and after D1 weird hammer.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #512 on: October 19, 2019, 08:37:34 pm »

I actually feel a bit left out of this whole conversation and also I haven't seen anything scummy from the participating parties, so I am a bit confused here.

Can everyone, like, share their top scumread and why is that so?

I start with shraeye, still haven't got answer to

All fire, no substance.  This isn't townrae.

What happened to this read? It sounds pretty sure

and also don't see him at all participating in D2 and after D1 weird hammer.
Are you curious about where my raerae read is at? Or are you making a point that I don't understand?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #513 on: October 20, 2019, 04:37:17 am »

I actually feel a bit left out of this whole conversation and also I haven't seen anything scummy from the participating parties, so I am a bit confused here.

Can everyone, like, share their top scumread and why is that so?

I start with shraeye, still haven't got answer to

All fire, no substance.  This isn't townrae.

What happened to this read? It sounds pretty sure

and also don't see him at all participating in D2 and after D1 weird hammer.
Are you curious about where my raerae read is at? Or are you making a point that I don't understand?

You always say that you excellently read raerae, then you say she's scum, then you drop it, why?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #514 on: October 20, 2019, 07:05:07 am »

I think raerae is town. I think joth is stuck in a tunnel.  Shraeye could be anything.  Time to move on. How about vote: Lalight.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #515 on: October 20, 2019, 07:51:17 am »

Vote: LaLight
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #516 on: October 20, 2019, 08:11:54 am »

Oh, sure

vote: uncleeurope
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #517 on: October 20, 2019, 08:12:52 am »

I think scum was content with this whole conversation eating up the big part of the day and as soon as I propose moving on, I get voted
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #518 on: October 20, 2019, 08:25:30 am »

Uhhh, EFHW recommended we move on, you seemed to be pushing the same people everyone else has been pushing all day.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #519 on: October 20, 2019, 08:31:20 am »

I think scum was content with this whole conversation eating up the big part of the day and as soon as I propose moving on, I get voted

That being said, let’s say your claim was true, then what is my plan here as scum?

I vote for the town player who has foiled my nefarious deeds? Just because they tried to move on? See, I would hope that if I wanted to double down on the line of thinking you are pulling away from, instead of voting you with no explaination, I would vote for one of the people already being discussed to convince others that we should lynch there.

Not to vote for the person encouraging us to “move on” which would encourage town to move on.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #520 on: October 20, 2019, 08:32:20 am »

That feels to me like it is a really shady way to play the “Vote tag” game.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #521 on: October 20, 2019, 08:47:40 am »

Well, none of the supposed mislynches work, so you chose me, also sheeping EFHW vote and with no explanation at all
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« Reply #522 on: October 20, 2019, 08:55:23 am »

Well, none of the supposed mislynches work, so you chose me, also sheeping EFHW vote and with no explanation at all

See, this is a better post.
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #523 on: October 20, 2019, 09:26:23 am »

Well, none of the supposed mislynches work, so you chose me, also sheeping EFHW vote and with no explanation at all
Why are you only challenging Eddie?
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Re: RMM54: War of the Spark Mafia (DAY 2)
« Reply #524 on: October 20, 2019, 09:28:00 am »

Well, none of the supposed mislynches work, so you chose me, also sheeping EFHW vote and with no explanation at all
Why are you only challenging Eddie?

I didn't like his post being only the vote without anything else. I actually think you're both scummy for this, but he's just more
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