Dominion Strategy Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Pages: 1 ... 63 64 [65]  All

Author Topic: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)  (Read 174804 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Joseph2302

  • Jester
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 858
  • Shuffle iT Username: Joseph2302
  • "Better to be lucky than good"
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1600 on: October 13, 2019, 09:52:52 am »

And I haven't read the scum QT, but I'd give MVP to EFHW
She was my top town read, and I'd have voted ADK if I'd been around because of it
Logged
Mafia Stats: (correct as of 2017)
Town: 22 games, 8 wins
Scum: 5 games, 3 wins

faust

  • Board Moderator
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3377
  • Shuffle iT Username: faust
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1601 on: October 13, 2019, 10:10:09 am »

Good game everyone, and nice design Silver. I have more in-depth thoughts to share but for now I’ll say town lost this game as much as mafia won it. Not to take away from the winners’ accomplishment— a perfect game is a beautiful thing. But man, the duels gave us an opportunity to play lazy and we took it.
Yeah, I think that is a design flaw inherent to this duel mechanic.
Logged
You say the ocean's rising, like I give a shit
You say the whole world's ending, honey it already did

Debatepro

  • Pawn
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2
  • Shuffle iT Username: Debatepr0
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1602 on: October 13, 2019, 10:15:28 am »

And I haven't read the scum QT, but I'd give MVP to EFHW
She was my top town read, and I'd have voted ADK if I'd been around because of it

I agree with EFHW as mvp, definitely has a strong town read until near the end.  It’s a super strong scumteam well played.
Logged
FNG

Robz888

  • Margrave
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2644
  • Shuffle iT Username: Robz888
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1603 on: October 13, 2019, 11:49:22 am »

Wow, what a disaster! Nearly every one of my calls was wrong. I sort of townread mcmc and E, and I strongly townread EFHW.

We played terribly, me perhaps most of all. I do think this setup is... pretty stacked against town? Just in that it's nearly a vanilla game. I would recommend making the duel votes public or something, just to give town more information, if this setup was to be played again.
Logged
I have been forced to accept that lackluster play is a town tell for you.

MiX

  • Navigator
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 77
  • Shuffle iT Username: MiX
  • It's me.
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1604 on: October 13, 2019, 12:09:14 pm »

Wow, what a disaster! Nearly every one of my calls was wrong. I sort of townread mcmc and E, and I strongly townread EFHW.

We played terribly, me perhaps most of all. I do think this setup is... pretty stacked against town? Just in that it's nearly a vanilla game. I would recommend making the duel votes public or something, just to give town more information, if this setup was to be played again.

OTOH the duel PRs are really good, but town doesn't know that, so duels look worse than they are.
Logged

silverspawn

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5301
  • Shuffle iT Username: sty.silver
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1605 on: October 13, 2019, 12:51:17 pm »

Wow, what a disaster! Nearly every one of my calls was wrong. I sort of townread mcmc and E, and I strongly townread EFHW.

We played terribly, me perhaps most of all. I do think this setup is... pretty stacked against town? Just in that it's nearly a vanilla game. I would recommend making the duel votes public or something, just to give town more information, if this setup was to be played again.

I disagree that the setup is scum favored, though. I've said in the speccy at some point that I feel like the setup is town favored, and I think I still feel this way, a bit. The JK is super good and all of the duel PRs are quite good, too.

silverspawn

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5301
  • Shuffle iT Username: sty.silver
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1606 on: October 13, 2019, 12:55:21 pm »

If we did run a similar setup again, it would have to be with a different set of PRs. They can be similarly strong (or weaker or stronger if one wants to tweak balance), but should be different. If everyone knows what they are, that changes the dynamic.

Glooble

  • Bishop
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 113
    • View Profile
    • Solutions to Problems
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1607 on: October 13, 2019, 01:32:15 pm »

What if town was give. A list of, say 8 possible PRs and told that a random 4 would be in the game?
Logged

I think town!Glooble pointing to something as a scum tell and then shortly thereafter doing that thing is a lot more likely than scum!Glooble doing that.

He/ Him

Check out my podcast: www.stppodcast.com

silverspawn

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5301
  • Shuffle iT Username: sty.silver
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1608 on: October 13, 2019, 02:14:16 pm »

Yeah, I guess that could work.

EFHW

  • Spy
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 81
  • Shuffle iT Username: EFHW
  • EFHW="ee-foo". Really, how else would you say it?
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1609 on: October 13, 2019, 08:08:06 pm »

Thanks everyone and partners e and mcmc. Here's my favorite post of the game:

Quote
mcmc:
I could see a world where scum!efhw was bussing scum!e yesterday but I purposefully tried not to tip my hand as to which way I was leaning on awaclus/e early so that there was no way efhw knew it was safe to vote e if he is in fact her partner so it’s a risky bus if it was one.
Logged

EFHW

  • Spy
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 81
  • Shuffle iT Username: EFHW
  • EFHW="ee-foo". Really, how else would you say it?
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1610 on: October 13, 2019, 08:10:04 pm »

MiX,  I wanted you for the nk for several reasons.  You keep the game moving, you are very hard to lynch (though many have tried) and you are unlikely to be protected.
Logged

EFHW

  • Spy
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 81
  • Shuffle iT Username: EFHW
  • EFHW="ee-foo". Really, how else would you say it?
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1611 on: October 13, 2019, 08:15:41 pm »

And I haven't read the scum QT, but I'd give MVP to EFHW
She was my top town read, and I'd have voted ADK if I'd been around because of it

I agree with EFHW as mvp, definitely has a strong town read until near the end.  It’s a super strong scumteam well played.
The things I said to you weren't scummy. I would say them as town. Look at it this way, I was towny and I was scum. Being towny isn't proof that you are town and you can't expect to automatically get credit for towniness, even if you thoroughly deserve it.
Logged

silverspawn

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5301
  • Shuffle iT Username: sty.silver
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1612 on: October 15, 2019, 07:29:10 am »

Alright, since I didn't hear objections since the scum QT was posted, I hereby delcare that EFHW is the mvp. This means that both your hero and your team are the biggest factor for winning! How did I get in?

Your Effigy of Hope is a key piece of you that will boost your Evolve and Mighty Guard meter. The lower the meter, the more damage you deal to nearby enemies and what other enemies you can kill and if you hit too many, you will evolve into ;Super-Effigy. Ego is an awesome thing. You want to find the best Effigy of Hope for your playstyle and your team's needs. Don't pick one simply because you like it.

EFHW

  • Spy
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 81
  • Shuffle iT Username: EFHW
  • EFHW="ee-foo". Really, how else would you say it?
    • View Profile
Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1613 on: October 15, 2019, 11:50:15 pm »

Thanks for the game, silver!
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 63 64 [65]  All
 

Page created in 0.185 seconds with 20 queries.