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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1575 on: October 13, 2019, 01:07:11 am »

Ugh we're endgamed, right?
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1576 on: October 13, 2019, 02:01:27 am »

e did you really vote for yourself for those duels? I am very interested to hear scum's perspective on the dueling mechanic

I voted yes on the first two duels, but then no for the rest (even though I claimed yes to a couple of those). The first one I really was under the impression that I would get the PR from the duel, and then feel really stupid after realizing my mistake.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1577 on: October 13, 2019, 02:01:34 am »

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1578 on: October 13, 2019, 02:06:57 am »

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I had a different model with e, mcmc in 80% of scum teams, so are you all both scum?

Your post removing possible scum pairs was actually really great I thought. Your only mistake: removing the EFHW&e pair because of EFHW's perfect bus vote
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1579 on: October 13, 2019, 02:18:55 am »

If you had not removed that pair, would have looked more like this:

All possible teams:
ADK,e,EFHW
ADK,e,MCMC
ADK,e,Robz
ADK,EFHW,MCMC
ADK,EFHW,Robz
ADK,MCMC,Robz
e,EFHW,MCMC
e,EFHW,Robz
e,MCMC,Robz
EFHW,MCMC,Robz

Exclusions:

EFHW & Robz  (EFHW 240, 510, 1147)
Leaves:
ADK,e,EFHW
ADK,e,MCMC
ADK,e,Robz
ADK,EFHW,MCMC
ADK,MCMC,Robz
e,EFHW,MCMC
e,MCMC,Robz

ADK & Robz (ADK 960, 1287 & Robz 1278)
Leaves:
ADK,e,MCMC
ADK,EFHW,MCMC
e,MCMC,Robz
e,EFHW,MCMC
ADK,e,EFHW

e & robz (e 508, 1040)
Leaves:
ADK,e,MCMC
ADK,EFHW,MCMC
e,EFHW,MCMC
ADK,e,EFHW

and then the obvious result of your precious analysis (lynch ADK) would not have been as clear.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1580 on: October 13, 2019, 02:19:51 am »

I guess lynching mcmc was the other choice from your analysis, but of course I preferred lynching ADK
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1581 on: October 13, 2019, 02:53:29 am »

So probably we should have duelled today then
Or lynched e
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1582 on: October 13, 2019, 03:15:26 am »

Final Vote Count Day 5

A Drowned Kernel (4): Robz888, e, Debatepro, mcmcsalot
EFHW (1): A Drowned Kernel

Not Voting (2): Joseph2302, EFHW

With 7 alive, it took 4 to lynch.

A Drowned Kernel was lyncched. They were a VT with no PRs.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1583 on: October 13, 2019, 03:17:27 am »

Game over! The scum team of

EFHW, mcmcsalot, 2.71828.....

wins flawlessly!
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1585 on: October 13, 2019, 03:22:30 am »

Oh crap, EFHW was scum too
Clearly the worst IC ever.....
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1586 on: October 13, 2019, 03:23:16 am »

I'm inclined to give EFHW the mvp but I can definitely be swayed by opinions saying otherwise. Read the mafia QT first, though.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1587 on: October 13, 2019, 04:07:46 am »

I prefer a scramble to pubby. I'm still finishing my read on him but it feels...samey. Of course it's your call.

I think e's towny. Is the entire case of scum!e the fact that he voted? That's weak.

What is his motivation for doing that as town?

99% just went 99.9%

I swear every time someone agrees with me it puts me on edge.

When do you not think e's scummy?

Just because I tunneled him in a game awhile back is no reason to assume it is universal.

Plus I was right, wasn’t I?

So to answer your question: When e is town.

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1588 on: October 13, 2019, 04:10:25 am »

Anyone interested in me taking too long to make a wrong decision:

https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/EqfBmWbLJKJJd

I am very tilted about that, and will remain tilted for awhile.


EFHW is an easy MVP for me at least. That was the one variable I couldn't shake from my reads.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1589 on: October 13, 2019, 05:11:19 am »

From my D1 notes:

"Town: ADK, Swan, e, mcmcsalot, EFHW"

Man. And I then thought ADK was scum for hammering Swan...power team indeed.

So...why was I NK'd? I've been wanting to answer that for a looong time.

MVP's all of them, dying early with all of them in my townreads means I don't really have a preference.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1590 on: October 13, 2019, 05:31:06 am »

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1591 on: October 13, 2019, 07:31:59 am »

For the two duels we had I feel like town got the two worst PRs on the list.

Double doctor or vig could have really changed the game up rather than neopolitan
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1592 on: October 13, 2019, 07:32:44 am »

For the two duels we had I feel like town got the two worst PRs on the list.

Double doctor or vig could have really changed the game up rather than neopolitan

We also got super lucky as a scum team with Joseph's investigation.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1593 on: October 13, 2019, 08:26:30 am »

I feel like I contributed greatly to tanking this for town.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1594 on: October 13, 2019, 08:39:28 am »

snip

I had a different model with e, mcmc in 80% of scum teams, so are you all both scum?

Your post removing possible scum pairs was actually really great I thought. Your only mistake: removing the EFHW&e pair because of EFHW's perfect bus vote.


Yep yep, that was a big error. Here was the the more conservative one I build after EFHW busted my chop. Should have updated to include this one.
Can’t be ADK/Robz, ADK/Debatepro, Debatepro/EFHW.

adk,e,efhw
adk,e,mcmc
adk,efhw,mcmc
debatepro,e,mcmc
debatepro,e,robz
debatepro,mcmc,robz
e,efhw,mcmc
e,efhw,robz
e,mcmc,robz
efhw,mcmc,robz

7/10: e, MCMC
5/10: EFHW, Robz
3/10: ADK, Debate
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1595 on: October 13, 2019, 08:52:52 am »

For the two duels we had I feel like town got the two worst PRs on the list.

Double doctor or vig could have really changed the game up rather than neopolitan

Isn't Neapolitan quite strong, if it doesn't happen to hit JK of all people?

For everyone's reference, the four PRs were

Double Doctor (two doctor shots at once, may self-target)
Vig
Neapolitan
Time Bomb (choose n, if mafia kills you on night n, the mafia doing the kill dies)
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1596 on: October 13, 2019, 08:57:22 am »

Something I've always wondered is what the mafia thinks it's going to do after the entire village is dead. How do they commit new crimes and earn money?
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1597 on: October 13, 2019, 09:43:55 am »

Good game everyone, and nice design Silver. I have more in-depth thoughts to share but for now I’ll say town lost this game as much as mafia won it. Not to take away from the winners’ accomplishment— a perfect game is a beautiful thing. But man, the duels gave us an opportunity to play lazy and we took it.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1598 on: October 13, 2019, 09:48:57 am »

I am gonna take some credit for actually blocking a kill as JK though. Personal win for me.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)
« Reply #1599 on: October 13, 2019, 09:51:29 am »

For the two duels we had I feel like town got the two worst PRs on the list.

Double doctor or vig could have really changed the game up rather than neopolitan

Isn't Neapolitan quite strong, if it doesn't happen to hit JK of all people?

For everyone's reference, the four PRs were

Double Doctor (two doctor shots at once, may self-target)
Vig
Neapolitan
Time Bomb (choose n, if mafia kills you on night n, the mafia doing the kill dies)
If I hadn't hit and outed the JK, yes it was strong
 Obviously I was looking for a VT from it
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