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Author Topic: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Game over ; Mafia wins flawlessly)  (Read 174681 times)

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1450 on: October 04, 2019, 11:04:40 am »

Heck, vote: e
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1451 on: October 04, 2019, 11:40:35 am »

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1452 on: October 04, 2019, 11:49:43 am »


My biggest fear is this is town v town because my scum reads are being really hedgy about their votes.

Who are hedgy scum reads?

Robz and efhw

On top of the hedgyness the fact that they are now pushing this narrative that both e and awaclus are scum seems extremely silly.

My biggest concern with lynching awaclus is the fact that I don’t think this is how scum!robz treats scum!awaclus. It looks more like scum!robz reacting to a duel on town!awaclus and town!e

This is not the point in the game where scum!robz busses a partner unless he has to and this isn’t the way he would do it if he did have to.

I don't know that I am "pushing this narrative" that both e and Awaclus are scum. At this point it's a statistical possibility and not something to be automatically discounted, unlikely though it is. This is sloppier analysis than we usually see from you, mcmc!

Yea I agree it’s not a not possible. I think my initial reaction to that is just due to the fact that I am having a hard time finding anything concrete enough to say awaclus or e are scum. So the idea that they are both scum felt like you pushing general scumminess over a specific case which I get is as you have said because you don’t really have a specific case which is understandable:
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1453 on: October 04, 2019, 11:50:59 am »

Um, read it again. I was arguing against their both being scum.

You are right, you simply added to the discussion and did not really push the narrative.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1454 on: October 04, 2019, 11:58:54 am »

Awaclus will you tell us how you voted in each duel and why?
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1455 on: October 04, 2019, 06:32:45 pm »

Awaclus will you tell us how you voted in each duel and why?

I guess I might as well. I voted yes on the joth vs Glooble duel, and that was the only one.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1456 on: October 04, 2019, 09:53:01 pm »

Awaclus will you tell us how you voted in each duel and why?

I guess I might as well. I voted yes on the joth vs Glooble duel, and that was the only one.

So you didn't vote in the ADK vs E duel, voted yes to the joth vs glooble due, didnt vote again for the Joseph vs ADK duel and then voted no this duel...

Vote: awaclus

Thats the hammer.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1457 on: October 05, 2019, 01:37:44 am »

I can't decide if the silence is worrisome or encouraging
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1458 on: October 05, 2019, 01:41:38 am »

Awaclus is town, so this is a bummer.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1459 on: October 05, 2019, 03:12:01 am »

Final Vote Count Day 4

e (3): Awaclus, Uncleeurope, EFHW
Awaclus (5): e, Joseph2302, Robz888, A Drowned Kernel, mcmcsalot

Not Voting (5): , Debatepro

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 4 ends at Oct. 5, 15:00 forum time.

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1460 on: October 05, 2019, 03:12:23 am »

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1461 on: October 05, 2019, 03:13:15 am »

"Oh god of fear, will thou destroy this missile?"

'THY WILL BE DONE."

"The missile struck the Earth, it exploded.

All that remained after the explosion were fragments of metal

that were a long while ago.

The earth shook and shivered for a while.

Suddenly, there was a roar, and a great wave of flame

came raining down from the skies."

"Actually, it's right here," a crew member pointed out.

"'Hahahahaha!' another crew member exclaimed with excitement.

The doors were opened, and in its place appeared a large pile of burning bodies.

'Here, we have some supplies,' the crew member explained."

"He's really crazy. The ship is fine. And there are no burning bodies. Also it would be really stupid to destroy our ship. How would we get home?"

"What was that voice though?"

"Good question."

Then the ship exploded.

"The explosion happened just as his ship exploded. That was crazy."

"What is crazy about it? Is it dangerous?"

"What kind of question is? Why are so many people saying weird things? Our ship just exploded!"

"You can't just come back here and be crazy, like you do. What would he do, say something crazy, then leave again?"

"I'm crazy...? No. I'm fine. The world is what's crazy. You're crazy because you're so scared. It's because you can't face any kind of disappointment.

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1462 on: October 05, 2019, 03:15:00 am »

Awaclus has been lynched. They were a Vanilla Townie with no PRs.

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Night 4)
« Reply #1463 on: October 06, 2019, 05:32:01 am »

Uncleeurope has died in the night. They were a Vanilla Townie with the Time Bomb PR.

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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1464 on: October 06, 2019, 06:54:04 am »

So I'm still alive? Clearly scum thinks my reads are so terrible then
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1465 on: October 06, 2019, 06:55:00 am »

Also Uncle must have had that PR last night, and called a different night/not used it. Which is a shame
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1466 on: October 06, 2019, 07:05:22 am »

That's a really weak pr. I was hoping for something more useful.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1467 on: October 06, 2019, 07:23:14 am »

These duels have been really bad for us.  They artificially constrict the scumhunting. A whole bunch of people,  meaning most of us who are still alive,  have gotten very little scrutiny. 
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1468 on: October 06, 2019, 07:36:48 am »

3 of these are scum: {mcmc, Robz, ADK, EFHW, e}. Town should be really careful voting, scum can hammer with one misvote.

Vote count at post #643   
   pubby (7): mcmc, Joseph, Robz, Awaclus, ADK, MiX, EFHW
   Robz (5): e, Debate, pubby, Glooble, joth
   e (2): Eddie, Swan

Vote count at post #654   
   pubby ( 8 ): mcmc, Joseph, Robz, Awaclus, ADK, MiX, EFHW, e
   Robz (4): Debate, pubby, Glooble, joth
   e (2): Eddie, Swan
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1469 on: October 06, 2019, 09:08:11 am »

What is the point in posting those 2 vote counts?
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1470 on: October 06, 2019, 09:10:31 am »

These duels have been really bad for us.  They artificially constrict the scumhunting. A whole bunch of people,  meaning most of us who are still alive,  have gotten very little scrutiny.
Agreed. We wanted to talk about all the people that have been on town mislynches, but yesterday we only talked about 2 of those people. And then misylnched again

Which os something I'm guilty of doing too
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1471 on: October 06, 2019, 09:28:12 am »

These duels have been really bad for us.  They artificially constrict the scumhunting. A whole bunch of people,  meaning most of us who are still alive,  have gotten very little scrutiny.
Agreed. We wanted to talk about all the people that have been on town mislynches, but yesterday we only talked about 2 of those people. And then misylnched again

Which os something I'm guilty of doing too

At this point, the list of people who have been on at least one mislynch is every living player
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1472 on: October 06, 2019, 09:59:15 am »

These duels have been really bad for us.  They artificially constrict the scumhunting. A whole bunch of people,  meaning most of us who are still alive,  have gotten very little scrutiny.
Agreed. We wanted to talk about all the people that have been on town mislynches, but yesterday we only talked about 2 of those people. And then misylnched again

Which os something I'm guilty of doing too

At this point, the list of people who have been on at least one mislynch is every living player
True, but there's also a list of people who've been on nesrly every mislynch. Which does include me, but lots of others too
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1473 on: October 06, 2019, 10:09:13 am »

There are more meaningful things to look at than who voted for town. If there are lots of people,  then it's not a useful heuristic.  Each person's voting pattern is interesting,  including timing, who else is on the wagon, if their reasons are genuine and sheeping/white knighting.
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Re: M124: GPT-2 Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1474 on: October 06, 2019, 10:13:35 am »

I'm working on ADK. Everyone should pick someone to look at closely. We're in a terrible position,  but odds of finding scum start at 50/50, then add reads.
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